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ana_bee
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posted September 25, 2020 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We‘re currently dating, so I’ll ask him when the time is right, and will tell you what it is, if you’re interested. As of now, have fun guessing!
He’s a professional musician, (not famous) The photos are from his public page. I came to realize that I gravitate towards unconventional men, lately. Transit Uranus conj my Dsc. if I ever had doubts about astrology, they‘re gone now. Feeling this transit acutely! He‘s open to same sex experiences with men, but prefers dating women. His approach to life is unconventional and inspiring to me. I find him very fascinating, he‘s sweet, sexy, gentle, intense. I love spending time with him. He prefers open relationships. His longest relationship was open from the start. This is what he knows and what he prefers. I respect that.
He‘s around 6‘0-6‘1 (182-185 cm) and skinny

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His natal chart: (TOB unknown)

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posted September 25, 2020 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MMarie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi! I love guess the ASC posts haha. I’m thinking he is a Virgo ASC. I have started to recently correlate Virgos with thin eyebrows. Sounds weird but I can’t stop noticing it now! Also, it would make his sun in 11th house giving him unconventional Aqua vibes (open relationships).

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posted September 25, 2020 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MMarie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe even late Leo because he kind of reminds me of Shawn Mendez a bit, but more thinking very early Virgo.

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posted September 25, 2020 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wwfbader     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with the post above. Definitely Virgo or Pisces asc. I’m gonna gravitate towards Pisces because of the bohemian/artsy appearance moreso than the clean cut of Virgo.

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posted September 25, 2020 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I lean most to either Aries or early Gemini cusping Taurus some.

Thing is, if Aries, there would be some Mercury shading in from the Mercury Mars conjunction (which may also be parallel and could strengthen same). So definitely some Mercury highlighting either way.

If you have particularly strong Libra, Venus, and/or Aries, or particularly strong Sagittarius, Jupiter, and/or Gemini, it would argue for one more than the other.

I could possibly see Virgo, but Virgo as all Earth Rising signs, tend to be on the darker complected side unless Sun, Moon, Mars, the Fire Signs, and/or to a lesser extent the Air Signs, Cancer, and Pisces are strongly involved with the Asc.

I have a mid Leo Rising and my brother has Virgo Rising, and even though his Rising is cusping Leo and his Asc is closely conjunct a close Venus-Mars conjunction, with his ruling Planet just barely in Libra--we look rather different--especially as to coloring. I'm very Celtic-Germanic blend looking, and he is more Mediterranean with hint o' Celtic looking. His skin tone is a couple shades darker naturally and he tans much more easily than I (interestingly though, there is a slight copper tinge like some Native American tribes), his hair is much darker, and he has green eyes whereas I have freckles, some reddish and blondish tinge to especially my facial hair and head hair when I get a lot of sun, can tan only lightly after burning plenty, and light gray-blue eyes.

Not the only case I have in my files by any means, but one of those that I am certain of. Many people do not have fully accurate charts, even if the birth time is completely accurate. While Kannon and I differ on some things, this is one area that we both strongly agree on.

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posted September 25, 2020 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Quick add on, Aries tends towards curls more so than Gemini. But then again, Taurus also tends towards curls, so if his Rising is Gemini cusping Taurus--it could come in that way.

Make sure you are truly prepared to be with someone who wants an open relationship. My partner of 19 years and I have had an open option for the last 12 years or so of our relationship (I've tried to stay away from it, and mostly have for a number of years). If our relationship and connection wasn't so strong and secure and we weren't unusually mature and conscious type people, it likely would have torn up our relationship.

Open relationships trigger one's shadow and unconscious fear complexes like nothing else. To be honest, most people cannot handle them in a balanced, centered kind of way.

And beware of open/poly men who use same to justify being sex addicts--because a percentage of them are just that--sex addicts who simply have lack of self control and commitment/intimacy issues.

There are men out there that are open for deeper, idealistic and more spiritual reasons, but they are the more rare ones. These tend to be very attuned to Aquarius and/or Pisces like archetypes and energies (and ironically often have lower sex drive/focus than the average men).

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posted September 25, 2020 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He smokes so I don't see Virgo rising here.

He could be Gemini rising. That would put his Venus and moon conjunction on his ascendant and would reflect his expression as an artist. There is also a feminine/gentle quality about the way he presents himself.

And Gemini rising would put both Saturn and Uranus in his 7th house and would explain his preference for open relationships, openness to same sex relationship, and fear/reluctance of commitments.

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posted September 25, 2020 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uranus transit to 7th house for a fixed sign such as Scorpio is going to be an interesting journey.

Do think about what Galactic said. Open relationships are not for everyone.

The allure and excitement of Uranus while providing for an electric time can also be short lived. But, no matter what anyone is going to say, this is a transit you are somewhat fated to experience. And you will be in dating situations you never thought of before.

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posted September 25, 2020 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for your ideas, all of you!!
Have you also checked the third photo? I placed it as a link only, it’s a frontal shot, maybe his facial features would be a further clue.. Although these photos don’t do him justice, it’s mostly his energy and demeanor that make him so appealing.

Now I can totally see the Pisces and Virgo .. Pisces would be an obvious choice, he has sth gentle and other-worldly about him, Virgo would work too, he has a dark complexion although he’s Caucasian, and he plays a classic instrument. He studied classical music and plays in an experimental symphony orchestra.. yeah .. I haven’t heard him yet.

Virgo Asc don’t smoke? I can see where you’re coming from, considering smoking or taking recreational drugs wouldn’t be that healthy..

He takes 1 detox month each year, where he quits smoking, drinking and other things. . I thought that was quite odd.. as if one month would be enough.. but he said he’s not consuming that much at all, he’s also not partying that much either, since he works so much and needs to have a clear mind.. So far he hasn’t been intoxicated in my presence, ever.

I can also feel Gemini a lot! If he didn’t have moon and Venus in that sign already I’d definitely assume he has a Gemini Asc! I’ve dated a Cancer Sun, Gemini Mars (1st H) and Gemini Asc guy, it was my longest relationship so far, and I feel and observe a lot of similarities. This guy I dated had also a full head of curly hair (although blonde) , he too was tall and skinny..
Also smiling a lot, talking a lot..was never annoying or boastful but subdued and chill. Just a sweet and genuine person.

My first guess was Sagittarius,
he is tall-ish, has a long-ish face, thin lips, a wide mouth, long teeth..

I just viewed the profile of Keith Richards because he too is quite skinny, Boho, a musician, and had this other-wordly quality when he was younger, fine facial features, wide mouth..his MC is in Virgo! So maybe his MC is either Pisces or Virgo, too?

But I’m absolute not sure

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posted September 25, 2020 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
And Gemini rising would put both Saturn and Uranus in his 7th house and would explain his preference for open relationships, openness to same sex relationship, and fear/reluctance of commitments.

Interesting take with Uranus/Saturn on 7th house! I haven’t figured out yet, whether he’s maybe hiding behind his open relationships. I do believe that he really enjoys variety (Gemini Venus and Moon) but both receive an opposition from Saturn and Uranus in his natal chart!! Not really an aspect that spells unrestricted fun, but rather a lack of nurturing and encouragement in childhood and also low self-esteem, though he appears rather confident now.

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posted September 25, 2020 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are your strongest energies?

Obviously this is a new relationship and you're not necessarily very close, but in closer/more affecting connections, when both charts are accurate, you always always see patterns of same and opposite signs between different important/personal/sensitive symbols.

For a brief example, my partner and I. She is Aquarius Sun, late Capricorn Rising, Aries Moon, Aqua Venus, Pisces Mars (and Mercury), ruling Planet, Saturn, in early Libra and very closely conjunct Libra Jupiter, and Aqua S. Node.

I'm Cap Sun, Leo Rising, Libra Moon, Aqua Venus, Virgo Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn, and Pisces S. Node.

Most of our strongest energies are a mix of opposite and same Sign between different major/sensitive symbols. This is kind of an unusual, particularly close/intense connection (twin soul), so maybe not completely representative of most closer relationships though.

Some relationships are more 5th and/or 8th House based, than so 1st/7th type axis.

But anyways, chances are, knowing your strongest energies, might give us a clue to his Asc, whether or not this is a more 7th House type connection or a more 5th and/or 8th type connection. (Which not only include direct placements in these Houses, but strong aspects to the rulers of same).

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posted September 25, 2020 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
Uranus transit to 7th house for a fixed sign such as Scorpio is going to be an interesting journey.

Do think about what Galactic said. Open relationships are not for everyone.

The allure and excitement of Uranus while providing for an electric time can also be short lived. But, no matter what anyone is going to say, this is a transit you are somewhat fated to experience. And you will be in dating situations you never thought of before.


Thank you! I’m excited to see where that leads me..

I’m not sure whether I’m the type for this. I like the idea of it! I like it in theory, imagining two evolved characters just enjoying themselves, who are always genuine and real, and want their partner to be happy all the time.. I love the idea! This is my definition of true love. Freedom and Kindness and Respect. But I’m not sure if I’m able to be that detached from expectations and whether I’m that secure in myself! As of now I doubt it! But I’m willing to try it out at least once. Maybe it’s easier with someone who’s already doing that. That way I’ll maybe be less possessive, because I haven’t experienced him exclusively, before.

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posted September 25, 2020 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 25, 2020 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
What are your strongest energies?

Obviously this is a new relationship and you're not necessarily very close, but in closer/more affecting connections, when both charts are accurate, you always always see patterns of same and opposite signs between different important/personal/sensitive symbols.

For a brief example, my partner and I. She is Aquarius Sun, late Capricorn Rising, Aries Moon, Aqua Venus, Pisces Mars (and Mercury), ruling Planet, Saturn, in early Libra and very closely conjunct Libra Jupiter, and Aqua S. Node.

I'm Cap Sun, Leo Rising, Libra Moon, Aqua Venus, Virgo Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn, and Pisces S. Node.

Most of our strongest energies are a mix of opposite and same Sign between different major/sensitive symbols. This is kind of an unusual, particularly close/intense connection (twin soul), so maybe not completely representative of most closer relationships though.

Some relationships are more 5th and/or 8th House based, than so 1st/7th type axis.

But anyways, chances are, knowing your strongest energies, might give us a clue to his Asc, whether or not this is a more 7th House type connection or a more 5th and/or 8th type connection. (Which not only include direct placements in these Houses, but strong aspects to the rulers of same).


You really do compliment each other very well!!

Thank you for your input and your experience!!!
How did that open thing work out for you? Did you quit at some point and became monogamous again or are you still open?

Our placements:

His - Mine
Sun: Cancer - Pisces (Trine)
Moon: Gemini - Gemini (depending on Asc, conjunction)
Mercury: Cancer - Pisces (Trine)
Venus: Gemini - Aries (sextile)
Mars: Cancer - Aries (square)
Juno: Pisces - Libra (my Sun conj his Juno/ my Juno conj his SN)
NN: Aries - Taurus

My Vertex/Moon conjunction is in Gemini, and his Venus forms a conjunction to it at 1 degree

His Sun, Venus and Moon all fall in my 8th house!

The relationship is very new. It all feels like a nice friendship with a lot of intimacy. When I first saw him, I was just amazed how beautiful he is, I felt very drawn to him on a fundamental level, I never had doubts that he would feel attracted to me, too. And I’m usually not that confident, but I really didn’t have time to think about it!
I just approached him and he was immediately paying attention. It was very easy to talk to him.

He’s gentle, funny and intense. Everything felt very intimate from the start, the way he touches and looks at me.

I don’t know when and who he meets beside me, I haven’t asked. I want to keep this separate. I’m also dating other guys on the side, but anything that could go beyond kissing, is too much for me right now, because I’m honestly genuinely not interested to sleep with anyone else! So I let him do what he thinks he needs to do, we use protection of course!!!,and I do what I want.. currently not wanting to do anyone else..

We have pretty nice synastry but our composite doesn’t show longevity!! I’m not sure how this will work out, especially when I eventually fall in love with him. I am holding this back right now, because I’m intrigued by him and his lifestyle, and want to be part of it for a while.

I’ve been promiscuous in the past too, so I don’t feel like he could take advantage of me, he feels more like my equal. But I’m actually a one-person person! I don’t like to share! I want to be special to someone. I like intense relationships. He told me straight up, he’s not made for that, so I believe him and keep my expectations to a minimum. As long as I’m enjoying my time with him, I’ll stay with him and see where it goes.


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posted September 25, 2020 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I say Leo, he looks like him and my ex could be brothers.

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posted September 25, 2020 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sagittarius ASC makes people tall. If he has a thing about travelling, or likes to visit places, more like his own country places (due to his sun in Cancer), then that's it.

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posted September 26, 2020 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
Sagittarius ASC makes people tall. If he has a thing about travelling, or likes to visit places, more like his own country places (due to his sun in Cancer), then that's it.

Yeah, he travels a lot! He spent a significant time in Indonesia and co-founded a non-profit to support kids in their musical ambitions, providing them instruments and teachers.

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posted September 26, 2020 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
I say Leo, he looks like him and my ex could be brothers.

Would you post a photo of your ex here? I’m curious

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posted September 26, 2020 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ana_bee,

Re: the open thing--it's gone through various different phases over the 12 years. Towards the beginning, I participated in it as well, but after a few brief and rather unfulfilling connections, I realized it wasn't so much for me and I tried to stay away from it.

And I mostly did (with a couple minor and one major exception), until last summer (of last year) I met someone and fell in love quite deeply and quickly--ironically with a woman who is from the same half of Spirit that my partner is from (may sound strange, but our larger, Spirit selves can have more than one Soul self going on in a particular space time cycle--it's actually quite common nowadays). Not going to go into that connection too much, other to say it ended up being VERY intense, but VERY disappointing/painful and my heart is still a wreck.

Even if I met someone whom I have a deeper connection and holistic attraction to--I'm not sure I'd want to get involved because I'm still in the process of healing and centering.

My partner continued to date--most connections didn't go too far, though over that time she had a few that she got closer with, but they didn't last. Up until a year ago, she was in grad school for a few years, and during that, she didn't have the time and energy for dating, so she stayed away from it, but in the last year or so she has started dating. But it's been one continuous pattern of either lack of deeper connection or mild disappointment. She says she does it because she's an extrovert and likes going out, meeting new people and being social.

In that whole 12 years, neither one of us have slept with too many people--I can count on one hand, and she on one or two'ish. It's not about sex for us--it's more of an Aqua Venus thing (which we both have). It's about recognizing, accepting, and respecting that as Souls, we have various different Soul connections with others, we don't own or belong to each other, and it's ok and only natural that we can fall in love with more than one person in this life while still loving each other.

Regarding your placements--so in synastry, we don't tend to put as much emphasis on same symbols to same symbols. For whatever reason, the connection between the Sun and the Sun, the Moon and the Moon, the Rising and Rising, etc doesn't tend to be as pertinent or noticeable as connections between different symbols. The biggest ones being Sun to Asc/Desc or Moon, but Sun, Asc/Desc, or Moon to Venus is a common one. As well as Moon to Mars, and Venus to Mars, and also the Nodes to personal planets. And IC to personal, sensitive points tends to be highlighted.

Then the rulers of the Angles, 5th, and/or 8th to other sensitive, personal points tend to be big ones.

This relationship is likely in your life for a reason. Would say, go with the flow, while also remaining conscious to your deeper feelings. Open relationships are good for personal growth, because they stir up one's shadow in a more conscious and overt way, and ultimately, a lot of consciousness growth is about becoming more conscious of the shadow and transforming same either through acceptance and/or redirection.

With him highlighting your 8th House pretty strongly--there will likely come a stormy intensity to the connection at some point. 8th House is all about shadow and unconscious fear confrontations and seeking major transformations.

For example, the woman that I mentioned earlier that I met and fell in love with last year--she and I have a strong 8th House connection. In her chart, she has Pisces Venus and Saturn conjunction, where Saturn rules her 5th and the conjunction is in her 7th natally, but are in my 8th House synastracally.

The ruler of her Sun, 8th House, and co-ruler of her Moon--Mars, is almost exactly conjunct my Asc and opposed my Venus (a particularly sensitive/highlighted symbol in this chart).

Then the co-ruler of my 8th is in her 5th, and conjunct the ruler of her 4th and co-ruler of her 7th. Then the other co-ruler of my 8th, is almost exactly conjunct her Asc.

Lot's of painful lessons and transformations for both sides (some strong Saturn, Neptune, and Pluto stuff adds to the whole pattern). But, it was here for Soul growth, and was pre-planned.

Strong 8th House connections tend to be mesmerizing, magnetic, and/or even somewhat obsessive--they kind of have to be, or people wouldn't work on the underlying lessons or karmic balancing, to begin with if they knew ahead of time it would involve that much emotional and/or energetic challenge.

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posted September 26, 2020 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not saying that he can't be a Leo Rising, but if it's Leo Rising, then it's a very altered/modified Leo Rising, because he doesn't look anything like the Archetypal pattern of Leo.

(Besides that I have Leo Rising, and relatively less modified/altered than many, I've done A LOT of research into Rising Signs in connection with looks).

First, Leo is a fixed Sign. All the fixed Signs, in an archetypal sense, tend towards a more strong, thick, and/or more stout kind of body build. Particularly so with Leo, Scorpio, and Taurus--these are the kind of men that have bodies that can easily and naturally become body builders. They tend to have larger/thicker bone structure and greater natural muscle mass--even if they don't work at it, they tend to be more naturally muscular with whatever activity they do do.

The faces of Fixed signs tend towards a squarishness and/or thickness.

Leo Risings in an archetypal sense, tend to have a full lower lip. The upper half of the body tends to be much better formed than the lower half, and that classic masculine, athletic V build, with skinnier legs is pretty common. Leo Rising in an Archetypal sense is one of the most naturally athletic, physically powerful, and vital Rising Signs in an archetypal sense (things like Saturn, South Node, Mercury, Moon, strong Virgo or Cancer cusping, etc can indicate a moderate to strong altering of that though).

The eyes tend to be on the larger side, but somewhat deep set. There is often something Lionish looking about them.

The back is often pronounced in some way, either unusually long or short. Heart issues are not uncommon. (They can also have reflex issues with the circulation and/or ankle from the opposite sign Aquarius).

Tend to have larger noses, but often in a more "regal" looking kind of way. Otherwise, the features are usually fairly symmetrical and they tend to be decent to good looking. Remember, Leo is a sign that is destined to "stick out" in different ways.

Slightly above average height is not uncommon. I happen to be short for both a Leo Rising and in general (5' 7"), and it's indicated partly by my ruler, the Sun being in Capricorn and inconjunct my Asc degree--I have an abnormally short torso in which genetically I'm missing a lower lumber vertebrae. Inconjuncts are all about adjustments and stress, and naturally have a health connotation to them via the natural 6th House connection. (Oddly, my grandfather on my Mom's side, also had a Leo Rising, but he had a very long back and was a bit under 6ft).

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posted September 26, 2020 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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He smokes so I don't see Virgo rising here.

i'm a virgo sun (in tropical anyway, have virgo in my sidereal chart anyway though) and i smoked for years, did a lot of other **** too

not really sure why people have it in their heads that virgo energy means never doing **** like this

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posted September 26, 2020 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astrogirlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Idk he's giving me gemini, taurus or scorpio vibes...... if i had to lean more towards one... maybe scorpio rising >.<

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posted September 26, 2020 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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i'm a virgo sun (in tropical anyway, have virgo in my sidereal chart anyway though) and i smoked for years, did a lot of other **** too

not really sure why people have it in their heads that virgo energy means never doing **** like this


I agree with you, mostly every Virgo I ever met, male or female, was either chain smoker, experimented with drugs, or/and had unhealthy eating habits. They were organized though, and hard working, despite their vices.

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posted September 26, 2020 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i was talking about Virgo rising, not Virgo Sun. But whatever, lol!

For a Virgo sun or rising to be chain smoking and experimenting with drugs and substances and eating bad foods and have all sorts of unhealthy habits, there has to be something in the chart that negates the Virgoan quality, usually the culprit is Neptune making hard aspects to important planets.

Case in point, Virgoan AmyWinehouse had South Node Neptune in Sagg conjunct her moon, and square her Virgo Sun/Mercury. That tension involving Neptune and such personal planets gave her that otherwordly fragile and wretched aura that drew and captivated us, but it was hard on her. Neptune conjunct moon made her romanticise drug's allure. Her brilliant song Rehab is a classic in that vein.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUmZp8pR1uc

She could not utilize her Virgoan qualities to save herself from drugs.

https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Amy_Winehouse

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posted September 26, 2020 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I agree with you, mostly every Virgo I ever met, male or female, was either chain smoker, experimented with drugs, or/and had unhealthy eating habits. They were organized though, and hard working, despite their vices.


i find a lot of virgo stereotypes are off base for me, but the drug one stands out partially because the one celebrity virgo i can think of who shares my birthday is river phoenix 🤣 (also if we're going to get into virgo risings pretty sure kurt cobain was one and well...)

charlie sheen, amy winehouse, michael jackson all virgo suns

personally i smoked for a long time, recently quit again, used drugs for longer on/off (mostly on though sober a lot of the time and not hard drugs anymore, i was a junkie), i eat mostly healthy but my eating habits can be pretty **** too

i'm not organized either though, ive been sleeping on my couch for a solid month because i didnt feel like dealing with fitted sheets so my bed is just covered in laundry and books and my guitars etc now

i have a tendency to just fill every flat surface with junk and half full cups of water and coffee and empty water bottles and seltzer cans

i write occasionally and my notebooks are a weird mix of song lyrics, stories, irl **** , notes to myself, grocery lists etc with pages torn out stuff written that starts in the back front, random pages in the middle etc

i keep clean clothes either in the dryer or laundry bags mixed with sheets and blankets

my fridge is a horrible mess of things i need to throw away and dishes i didnt feel like cleaning (i'll probably throw most of those away) immediately but didnt want cluttering the sink where they'd get worse quicker

i'm less awful when i'm not single, but when it's just me i'm not bothered by that sort of thing so i can't be bothered

i will however notice if someone else were to come in and like move one of my guitars slightly to the left or something without telling me and that would have me near panic attack levels of anxiety because it's in a different spot than where i left it

i know where things are in my mess because everything on top is important

my floor is typically clean though because not having space to pace around and whatnot drives me crazy

when i've had healthcare jobs i'm a hard worker, everything else nah not really tbh

i just find it hard to care in most circumstances but it being someone else's well being to a large extent motivates me and then i'll show up all the time stay late if needed take extra shifts etc

then i can care because it isn't about the job itself otherwise i'm fairly lazy unless i absolutely can't get away with it or need to do something, and i really hate when i have to do stuff for the most part

it's like how i'll clean and **** when i'm not single or have a roommate because it's for the other person but just me? eh i can deal with a mess

i wouldn't mind having some of those qualities, i just don't

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