posted October 03, 2020 01:50 PM            

In same, Arroyo devotes a chapter to the triangle of Life Houses, which correlate in an loose, archetypal way with the Fire Signs and their relative, numeric positions. He especially focuses on the 5th and essentially says that he thinks it's a particularly highlighting area of the chart, and probably should be paid attention to more.

I have come to agree with him, and often I see 5th House Planets, especially when also in major to medium aspect to the Asc degree, as being kind of like Angular placed Planets i.e. either more conscious in the psyche and/or strongly active in the life. In some ways, 5th House planets often seem stronger in a more direct way than say the 7th House, which is a reflection area and doesn't directly relate to self like the 1st does.

And with 4th House energies, while they can relate to more direct, self attunement, they are often far more hidden and underground--often more in the unconscious/shadow than overt.

Anyways, I've noticed this trend in others chart as well as my own. For example, if you look at my chart, the Sun initially doesn't seem all that strong or highlighted--actually may seem on the weak side. On my intro thread in another forum section, people may be confused by why I would place the Sun as being so strong. After all, it's not only in a Cadent House, but one of the weaker of the Cadent Houses.

But there are a couple things which strongly offset this. First was that I was born near Solar Perihelion, which is the cycle when the Earth becomes closest to the Sun in it's yearly, not perfectly circular orbit around same. If you look at pictures of the Sun from the earth between the closest and furthest away parts of the cycle (Jan vs July), there is a noticeable difference in size.

The ancients often paid more attention to these closest approaches to earth cycles than we do (particularly the Martian ones, as they tended to correlate with heightened Mars patterns in the earth of war, strife, etc).

Then, I have a wide conjunction of Mercury to Sun, where the Sun is the chart ruler. Mercury is more firmly within the 5th House, and in a sense, via that conjunction, it's pulling the Sun which is barely in the 6th House, back into the 5th House as well. The Sun is also making a fairly close inconjunct aspect (which I consider pretty much a major aspect) to the Asc degree.
Indeed, I have had both a very strong combo of emphasis on both 5th and 6th House matters in my life. Creativity, romance, diet, health, etc have been some of the most predominant themes.

But more over, both Mercury and Sun are particularly sensitive/receptive/highlighting symbols in this chart. Sun by being the chart ruler, and Mercury by being the ruler of my Virgo North Node, Jupiter, Mars, and Saturn where Saturn is the ruler of my Cap Sun and Mercury. And also, the Virgo North Node and Jupiter (barely) are in the 1st House and so both they and Virgo gain more amplification. Then as mentioned, Mercury is widely conjunct the Sun/chart ruler. On various different, repeating levels, there's this strong connection between the two.

It's also similar with Neptune in this chart. At first and more casual glance, Neptune doesn't seem that strong, and yet, I've always felt very attuned to Neptune in a very holistic way, from the early mysticism, hyper empathy, and psychic tendencies to loving and living near the ocean.

Neptune is in the 5th and in a trine to the Asc degree. And also, she is parallel the Sun/chart ruler. Both of these indicate a greater amplification than meets the eye. It's also contributing factors that she is so closely sextile Venus which is ruler of the Moon and MC and is Angular, and widely square Saturn the faster moving ruler of Sun, Mercury, Venus, and Desc Signs, as well as widely square Mars faster moving ruler of the IC. (Angular Pisces S. Node contributes some as well to both the Jupitarian and Neptunian attunement).

posted October 05, 2020 03:32 AM            

Otherwise, I'd say the odds are pretty slim but possible and considered an outlier.

posted October 05, 2020 09:35 AM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Depends IMO, 5th is a cadent house regardless of how you put it, but that said it could be amplified in your chart considering the fact that you have your Sun in 5th/6th cusp, but a planet at the end of the house is usually interpreted as being in the next house so.....

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Incorrect term--5th is one of the Succedent.

Yes, if the Sun was where it's at, but not conjunct an important, sensitive Planet more firmly in the 5th, then I would read it solely in the 6th House. But what does conjunction mean? Merging/resonating powerfully. Hence the two different energies partake of each other and are combined and that means everything: Houses, aspects, signs, etc.

Sun is getting pulled back into the 5th via it's Mercury conjunction in a sense.

For another example. I have a Moon Saturn conjunction where Saturn is aspected to Uranus, Neptune, and the Sun. The Moon is too far away in and of herself, but via the conjunction, she also takes part of those aspects because of the conjunction to Saturn and what conjunction means and entails.

posted October 05, 2020 11:23 AM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Pulled back? more like both flavours tho yes, but mercury pulling sun

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Sure, flavors both is probably a better way of putting it. But course I wasn't talking pulling in a literal, physics, gravity type sense... It's interesting to note the powerful connections between the Sun and Mercury in a general and symbolic sense. Sun is Spirit and core consciousness attunement, and Mercury is conscious, intellectual mind, conscious thought and focus.

We eventually become (Sun) what our conscious mind and thoughts (Mercury) most focus on. Or, as EC's source use to say, "Mind is the builder, the physical is the result".

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Hello Galactic!! We meet again..

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Howdy, how's it hanging? Cue old Western showdown music "Bbbbannnnoww", then to end with a "duh duh dun"? J/K

posted October 05, 2020 12:23 PM            

I almost thought u got COVID or some **** but I figured u'd survive it for further work rofl

posted October 05, 2020 12:28 PM            

But as soon as I noticed symptoms, I started to up my intake of more highly alkaline reacting foods (as well as spiritual attunement), and within a day and a half of showing symptoms, I was completely over whatever infection I had.

Or maybe I actually died and I'm now in a weird purgatory level of the afterlife? Kind of a Lost'esque scenario. LL certainly feels pretty weird at times. Are you my smoke monster friend?

P.S., you happen to look A LOT like Johnny Depp.

posted October 05, 2020 01:20 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Well, then you're pretty hot indeed.

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posted October 05, 2020 01:41 PM            

Do u have ur Mars before or after 23 degree in Virgo, actually I'm wondering what ur Vedic chart looks likee ?

posted October 05, 2020 03:11 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Back in March I started to experience Covid like symptoms. I think it was likely Covid because unlike normally, I started to have a hard time breathing without any accompanying mucous build up. Quite unusual.

But as soon as I noticed symptoms, I started to up my intake of more highly alkaline reacting foods (as well as spiritual attunement), and within a day and a half of showing symptoms, I was completely over whatever infection I had.

Or maybe I actually died and I'm now in a weird purgatory level of the afterlife? Kind of a Lost'esque scenario. LL certainly feels pretty weird at times. Are you my smoke monster friend?

P.S., you happen to look A LOT like Johnny Depp.

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posted October 05, 2020 06:18 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Currently 0. Probable future scheduled 3, though may only be 1. 5th House deals with a lot more than just literal children.

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I had 2 by 22 years old.

My father had 9 by 36.

His father had 10 by ? (I'd have to calc it).

I'd say we all have a strong 5th but their 7th is stronger than mine because I only have 1 grand.

However, your point makes sense the 5th could be on steroids, just because it's backed by the Sun.

If that were true, one or more of the other non-angular houses should be weaker to offset the difference.