posted December 17, 2012 08:23 PM            

I personally find no aspect quite like a stress aspect to Mercury. I believe one sometimes doesn't realize how critical a sound mind, and finding peace of mind is in trying times - it doesn't become as clear until you've live through a crisis or difficult time that stress aspects of Mercury can become prevalent when one is easily depressed, overly impulsive, distant and/or eccentric, or very compassionate in their views of things, their communications, and their mental functioning. Or, it could even be a mix of all of the above, for some complex individuals. But for now, we'll focus on those of you on LL who have the Merc-Mars issue. Usually when we hit young adulthood or a bit earlier our Mercury functions are even more obvious, and so are the stress aspects.

Do you struggle with Mercury-Mars? Here's an essential M-M check list:

1. Do you feel you think and act too impulsively?
2. Does doing mundane tasks like capping things, closing cabinets, and hanging up clothes seem impossible to complete due to your boredom/shifting attention?
3. Were you almost always a little unorganized when it came to Mercurial things - papers, books, files, folders?
4. Did you ever feel like you frequently shoot yourself in the foot by what you say?
5. Have your words inspired intense hate or tears in another, more than one person?
6. Do you type or write so quickly you impress others with the volume/speed of what you produce?
7. Do you talk more than other people, or feel once you start you oft cannot stop?
8. Do you feel you read too quickly, and have trouble reading slow enough for others to keep up?

These are all key difficulties of one with stressful Mercury-Mars. I feel that this support thread is a good place to talk about how all these seemingly straightforward but actually very detrimental and difficult issues play into our lives. As a Merc-Mars square sufferer, I absolutely CANNOT HOLD MY TONGUE! I find it impossible and only my Saturn trine to Mercury helps me with this. I also struggle with almost every point on that checklist.

posted December 17, 2012 08:58 PM            

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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
I decided to create a quick thread on an impulse - how very appropriate! - for those who struggle with harsh aspects from Mars to Mercury, or even positive aspects [trine, sextile] that act up from time to time.

I personally find no aspect quite like a stress aspect to Mercury. I believe one sometimes doesn't realize how critical a sound mind, and finding peace of mind is in trying times - it doesn't become as clear until you've live through a crisis or difficult time that stress aspects of Mercury can become prevalent when one is easily depressed, overly impulsive, distant and/or eccentric, or very compassionate in their views of things, their communications, and their mental functioning. Or, it could even be a mix of all of the above, for some complex individuals. But for now, we'll focus on those of you on LL who have the Merc-Mars issue. Usually when we hit young adulthood or a bit earlier our Mercury functions are even more obvious, and so are the stress aspects.

Do you struggle with Mercury-Mars? Here's an essential M-M check list:

1. Do you feel you think and act too impulsively?
2. Does doing mundane tasks like capping things, closing cabinets, and hanging up clothes seem impossible to complete due to your boredom/shifting attention?
3. Were you almost always a little unorganized when it came to Mercurial things - papers, books, files, folders?
4. Did you ever feel like you frequently shoot yourself in the foot by what you say?
5. Have your words inspired intense hate or tears in another, more than one person?
6. Do you type or write so quickly you impress others with the volume/speed of what you produce?
7. Do you talk more than other people, or feel once you start you oft cannot stop?
8. Do you feel you read too quickly, and have trouble reading slow enough for others to keep up?

These are all key difficulties of one with stressful Mercury-Mars. I feel that this support thread is a good place to talk about how all these seemingly straightforward but actually very detrimental and difficult issues play into our lives. As a Merc-Mars square sufferer, I absolutely CANNOT HOLD MY TONGUE! I find it impossible and only my Saturn trine to Mercury helps me with this. I also struggle with almost every point on that checklist.

So, if you have any Merc-Mars stories to share, or just want help/support with your aspect, please come here to discuss.

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posted December 18, 2012 02:29 AM            

For instance, I'd imagine a Mercury in Sag square Mars in Virgo must be headache. The Sag wants to cover all things from a generic perspective whilst Virgo is tied to the details

I have Mercury in Capricorn square Mars in Libra; my Capricorn wants form and consistency, whilst Mars insists on beauty. So, in a nutshell, beauty and form should be in balance to me and all effort is made to bring the two in alignment.

posted December 18, 2012 08:10 AM            

I love your writing.

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2. Does doing mundane tasks like capping things, closing cabinets, and hanging up clothes seem impossible to complete due to your boredom/shifting attention?

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LOL yes! It drives my husband up a wall that I don't close the kitchen cabinet doors or cap stuff properly...it's like I have a weird disability when it comes to doing boring tasks...I suddenly become paralyzed or very weak.

Mercury trine Mars and Pluto...I'd rather be thinking of big dramatic victories (!!!!) and inspiring stories (!!!!) than tightening the lid on the ketchup bottle.

posted December 18, 2012 10:14 AM            

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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
Do you struggle with Mercury-Mars? Here's an essential M-M check list:

1. Do you feel you think and act too impulsively?
2. Does doing mundane tasks like capping things, closing cabinets, and hanging up clothes seem impossible to complete due to your boredom/shifting attention?
3. Were you almost always a little unorganized when it came to Mercurial things - papers, books, files, folders?
4. Did you ever feel like you frequently shoot yourself in the foot by what you say?
5. Have your words inspired intense hate or tears in another, more than one person?
6. Do you type or write so quickly you impress others with the volume/speed of what you produce?
7. Do you talk more than other people, or feel once you start you oft cannot stop?
8. Do you feel you read too quickly, and have trouble reading slow enough for others to keep up?

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1) Not necessarily I have a few planets in earth to stabilize the need to act impulsively at least in a negative way.
2) You mundane things such but once I start it I can't stop ex. say I am hanging up clothes if I notice any sort of dirt I start cleaning and can't stop until the entire house is clean.
3)When I was younger yes my bookbag use to look like one of my cats decided to take a joyrides in it.
4)Depends sometimes I just shrug it off as "this is who I am" other times its more of a issue with people I am getting to know who don't understand my "acid tongue" is just a part of who I am. I can control it when I am in public or in a particular type of setting and change it into more of a kind of banter or wit.
5)I was really good at dramatic Shakespearean acting so I guess I channeled it.
6)Yes I type too quickly sometimes but it isn't to impress someone. It more just saying what popped into my head before I forget it.
7)Yes when I was younger I use to have "your daughter is quite brilliant for a child her age however she is quite a chatterbox 24/7"on all of my report cards.
8)Why would I read slowly because of others or be concerned about that? We're not sharing the same set of eyes.

posted December 18, 2012 04:22 PM            

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Originally posted by 11nahyt:
my god. EVERYTHING you wrote i relate 100% with. i have the conjunction and they both square all my outer planets (except pluto). this is like the extreme mental impatience aspect. i"m NEVER doing one thing at a time, and its sooooo hard for me to finish things that i'm just not even interested in. repetitive things are the worst, even if it is something i'm interested in, having to do something more than once is already wearing me down.i ramble alll the time. people are always talking about how fast i write/type/ its pretty convenient though. i read VERY fast as well. i talk really fast too. and even my voice has aggressive tone to it,and sounds impatient . it's like i cant get the words out fast enough. so many thoughts coming in at once, and wishing i had at least 4 mouths to talk from.which causes me to stutter at times. i ramble quite a bit too. the "shooting my own foot" happens almost everyday for me! i just cannot hold my tongue. its like the moment a thought comes to mind, it's also coming out of my mouth the same instant. i also believe this aspect may be the reason for my insomnia. i could be physically EXHAUSTED, but my mind is still active and running like hell. which has given me problems with sleep.every night i have to take multiple things with me to bed. like at least 3 books i'm interested in ( i'm NEVER able to read one book thoroughly without stopping to read bits of another). my ipad to have nearby to play some games. and for last, i have to play music to finally fall asleep. all of this takes about 2 hours or so until i'm finally asleep. and even then i am still very aware of my surroundings. the smallest sounds wake me up. . maybe this is my merc/mars squaring my uranus doing this? idk

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posted December 18, 2012 04:24 PM            

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Originally posted by vickymadness:
Aries mercury sextile mars
YESS to all the questions, except I talk slow which find very weird.
But yeaah ...My mind is very chaotic

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I see. This is a good example of how the sextile can cause issues at times. I also have the chaotic mindset of Merc-Mars so I can empathize. My thoughts race a lot, and are very vivid, but sometimes destructive because my Mars is in 29 Cancer in the 8th house of death. Many of my thoughts when they aren't neutrally morbid - like writing horror stories and watching a lot of horror film avidly - are directed unfortunately towards suicidal tendencies and wanting to escape [Mars opposes Neptune for me too].

posted December 18, 2012 04:26 PM            

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Originally posted by ail221:
1) Not necessarily I have a few planets in earth to stabilize the need to act impulsively at least in a negative way.
2) You mundane things such but once I start it I can't stop ex. say I am hanging up clothes if I notice any sort of dirt I start cleaning and can't stop until the entire house is clean.
3)When I was younger yes my bookbag use to look like one of my cats decided to take a joyrides in it.
4)Depends sometimes I just shrug it off as "this is who I am" other times its more of a issue with people I am getting to know who don't understand my "acid tongue" is just a part of who I am. I can control it when I am in public or in a particular type of setting and change it into more of a kind of banter or wit.
5)I was really good at dramatic Shakespearean acting so I guess I channeled it.
6)Yes I type too quickly sometimes but it isn't to impress someone. It more just saying what popped into my head before I forget it.
7)Yes when I was younger I use to have "your daughter is quite brilliant for a child her age however she is quite a chatterbox 24/7"on all of my report cards.
8)Why would I read slowly because of others or be concerned about that? We're not sharing the same set of eyes.

Mercury in Leo sq Mars in Taurus and Pluto in Scorpio.

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posted December 18, 2012 04:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Great thread, SS.

I love your writing.

LOL yes! It drives my husband up a wall that I don't close the kitchen cabinet doors or cap stuff properly...it's like I have a weird disability when it comes to doing boring tasks...I suddenly become paralyzed or very weak.

Mercury trine Mars and Pluto...I'd rather be thinking of big dramatic victories (!!!!) and inspiring stories (!!!!) than tightening the lid on the ketchup bottle.

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Aww, thanks Faith! LOL yeah it's really nice to actually see someone else shares this 'disability' with me... I truly do get so much BS from people about it... asking me why the heck I can't cap toothpaste tubes or close doors or remember to turn out lights. I feel like this aspect really makes one's mindset not match with their actions - I.E. you lose your train of thought or have ADD and forget to do small tasks that are easy to forget - or one's action drive takes over their mind, leading to one saying and doing things impulsively.

posted December 18, 2012 04:33 PM            

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Originally posted by AscTaurus:
I think that I'd like to add that it also depends on the sign that both are in.

For instance, I'd imagine a Mercury in Sag square Mars in Virgo must be headache. The Sag wants to cover all things from a generic perspective whilst Virgo is tied to the details

I have Mercury in Capricorn square Mars in Libra; my Capricorn wants form and consistency, whilst Mars insists on beauty. So, in a nutshell, beauty and form should be in balance to me and all effort is made to bring the two in alignment.

Mercury in Capricorn has me think very slowly whilst Mars refines my thinking; so I am not a "make decisons" now guy. I procrastinate quite a bit....

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These are all great points!! Thanks for mentioning this. I agree especially about the Sag vs. Virgo issue. I actually have ASC in Sag sq. Moon in Virgo. And my outward personality seems carefree and fiery while my inner self is very worried and neurotically meticulous. I can see how having the issue with Mars and Mercury with those signs square could be even worse.

posted December 19, 2012 01:58 AM            

With the conjunction, the energies are just duplicated and so the alignment is spontaneous.

Fpr example, Mercury in Gemini will say" I'm gonna look at the details" and Mars will add "Me too! Besides I have so much energy for all of that".

With the square, its like having two friends who are both extremely sensitive about which friend you'll respond to first:

Mars in Libra will say: "I'll make friends with him, he seems nice" and Mercury in Capricorn will respond (almost instantenously) :" That guy speaks nonsensical stuff, he is a complete bore".

posted December 19, 2012 03:05 AM            

Wow! It's like you heard my thoughts somehow lol.. Seriously I have been thinking for about a week now how I could go about learning how my Merc-Mars aspect impacts my everyday life! And you swooped right in and layed everything out on a silver platter for me to devour lol. What a great thread and you're my new hero

My aspect: Mercury in Gemini sq. Mars in Pisces.

I'm no expert but when I go down the list of my aspects this one has always jumped out to me. I kinda get the feeling that it's a pretty tough one too lol. The 8 examples you put out all affect me quite a bit lol. And 11nahyt also listed a few things that happen to me also. I am quite the talker/writer/thinker (Moon&Venus in Gemini as well) but have never been very organized at all! The repetitiveness of certain things for me is like a thorn in my side I can't get out lol. For example, as I type this post I just put down my guitar from trying to teach myself scales. Very repetitive! And it was driving me nuts that I couldn't focus! And I LOVE guitar! Lol. What I'm trying to say is that the above examples really hit home.

As for the way I deal with these little things that happen w/ me... I actually turn to ways to slow my mind down a little through marijuana & alcohol. I don't consider it a problem as much as I do a release from the demanding world. Relief from racing mind. Or maybe my own little place that only I can visit and be away from the fast paced life. I started smoking regularly a few years ago and it has worked wonders for me. (I'm not positive but I think this might be the Mars in Pisces acting in me) But the bad news for me is I was caught by the police w/ it (long story but it was bad luck for me how it happened... Or maybe somthing more?) and have to obstain from use for 1 year due to probation... (only 7 months left! I finish on my birthday lol) so this wares on me and my alcohol consumption has risen somewhat also. Alcohol just isn't the same for me but it can still provide some escape. So until July I'll have to just keep it together lol.

I have always wanted to hear someone comment on what I just wrote above. I also have always wanted to read other peoples experiences with the same aspect or even other Merc-Mars square aspects. I'm looking forward to revisiting this thread and thanks again for posting it!

P.S.-- I know I openly talk about marijuana in this thread and I just want to appologize if I stepped on anyones toes by doing so. I just figured sense it's legal on a state level in some parts of the country that it would be alright to mention my illegal infatuation for this illicit item.

posted December 19, 2012 11:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Haplesschild*:
I had an ex with mercury square mars and he was quick to anger and very argumentative. I guess the square is harder to handle than the conjunction? Mercury conjunct mars people aren't that defensive imo.

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Yes, this aspect is notorious for verbal explosions and cursing tirades.

There is considerable tension between the action drive and way of thinking+communicating with the square. Both are uneasy with each other which can lead to these sorts of outbursts.

posted December 19, 2012 11:29 PM            

Aww, that is so sweet of you to say hun! I appreciate you thinking of me as you new LL hero.

I hear you. I have the square. Mars makes one too fast and impulsive at times to be Mercurial and organized especially when it comes to thought processes and gathering papers which falls under Mercury's function [writing/putting thoughts down]. So usually people w/ this stress aspect have issues with misplacing papers and being unorganized. Inability to focus on things you even enjoy can be an issue too. I also see with these people and myself included, aimlessly wandering from one thing to the next usually in rapid succession and being prone to tantrums inside or outbursts when you are 'bored' and mentally restless. Like, for example, going from guitar for 15 minutes - I play too! - to a book for 20, then writing for 5, then screaming aloud because you just. can't. decide what to do! Since your mind can't stop and absorb.

posted January 04, 2023 07:12 PM            

Found this: Source: https://www.astrosaxena.com/mameconj

Mercury - Mercury represents communication skills, marketing, calculative ability, younger siblings, hobbies, skills with hands, intelligence, quick decision making, logical thinking, youthfulness etc.

House Ruler - Besides these karaka things, Mars & Mercury will also rule some houses in your chart and will represent things related to that house. Of course we can't cover conjunctions Ascendant and house wise else it will never be over. So, you have to include those things at the time of interpreting this conjunction. Also, we need to keep in mind all Yogas and Raj-Yogas which their conjunction would be making to completely understand the conjunction. Here, we can only cover meaning as per karakas.

Meaning of Mars-Mercury Conjunction - Mars & Mercury are natural enemies to each other. Reason is the difference in their basic nature. Mercury wants to be everywhere, wants to collect all the information in the world, it accepts everything.

On the other hand, Mars wants to finish the task given. It likes action and precise strike on target rather than having too much information on hand which may confuse Mars in taking action. So, when these two come together, it can lead to a confusing situation where person's actions may be scattered everywhere as he has too much of information and ideas.

It means that their actions are not well directed. This situation will be there till Mars attains maturity at 31. Then person realizes the value of focused and one-dimensional actions. Also, Mars is Anger and Mercury is Communication.

So, when these people get angry, they have no idea what they speak out in that moment. Mars represents Technology and Machinery. Mercury represents Language. So, they can be very good at understanding languages related to new technology.

When they communicate, it is with a warrior-like approach. Even when they write, they can display all their anger and frustration through their written words. They may not have too good relation with their siblings. Overall, if they can keep control over their anger and be focused about their actions, then it can be a good conjunction. But as I said, this situation comes in 30s. Till then, they can be anger-prone. In 30s, they can be very precise about their communications. Similarly, these people should be careful while travelling as Mars association with enemy Mercury can cause accidents and injuries.

Who will win the Conjunction? - Mars will. Mercury is a neutral planet. It changes itself as per the planet it sits with. So, with Mars, Mercury's communications will be anger-oriented.

Dignity & Strength- This conjunction can work best in Capricorn as Mars will be in exaltation and Mercury will be in friendly sign. Person will be able to control aggression of Mars.

Leo is another sign which can work well for both as both will be in friendly sign.

In signs like Aries, Scorpio, Sagittarius and Pisces, Mars will be in better position than Mercury. Hence, person's communication or intellect can be misdirected.

In signs like Taurus, Gemini, Virgo, Libra and Aquarius, Mercury will be in better position than Mars. Hence, person's Anger, Aggression or Actions can be misdirected.