posted June 05, 2021 09:59 AM            

Does this automatically means bad luck,danger,misfortune? Is it considered the worst aspect someone can have in natal? Is my life in constant danger?

Other aspects is saturn trine my sun in pisces and mars but at 10 wide orb
And jupiter trine Pluto exact at 0.20

Does this ease that square a bit or not at all?

I regret seeing that Jupiter Saturn square,is it really most misfortunate aspect ever ??

posted June 05, 2021 05:44 PM            

Jupiter is expansion and higher study (faith). So let's combine that with Saturn, which is restriction and reality.

posted June 06, 2021 05:05 AM            

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Originally posted by andrea22:
They say this aspect cause person to lost all material in life,also all hope is lost,will to live,person suffer,became poor,lost,life destroyed etc.
How is possible this is not talked most about?
Saturn/moon or mars are honey and milk compared to this worst aspect in human history. Why noone talks of this maddening aspect? when its clear is most evil

Interesting how Saturn (bad guy) square Jupiter (good guy) is case where bad win over good!!!! is really creepy,so if all interpretation of this aspect is only bad,can we say bad wins over good and we as humans are doomed as bad is always stronger?

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posted June 06, 2021 08:19 AM            

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posted June 06, 2021 08:58 AM            

I also found this online:" An aspect of Jupiter Square Saturn in the natal chart indicates a person who has courage and self belief in themselves, can easily strike a good balance of being hopeful yet realistic in their plans and can be ostentatious."

I also have Jupiter trine Pluto at 0.20 exact applying. Is it ok?

posted June 06, 2021 11:11 AM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
I don’t like this type of thinking, I must say! I have both Moon/Saturn and Saturn/Jupiter. I also have a Capricorn Moon so I know all about Saturn. I have lost money. I have lost friends. I have lost A LOT thanks to ME not doing the work. It has all been MY FAULT. But Saturn is a funny guy. He likes time and with time most people learn to do things correct. And when you do things correct there is no fear.

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posted June 06, 2021 12:34 PM            

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Originally posted by andrea22:
My chart ruler Jupiter in pisces in 9th house square Saturn in saggi by 3.6 degree applying

Does this automatically means bad luck,danger,misfortune? Is it considered the worst aspect someone can have in natal? Is my life in constant danger?

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Andrea, whoahhhhh. For real??? ...

You have become interested in Astrology, and
Did you PAY for that harmful astrology reading with a so-called reader that gave you heinous WRONG FACTS??

That's BIZARRE.
Please REPORT them to a Professional Astrology Association/Organization. Also, any kind of Better Business Bureau (authorities) in your country.

Anyone can set-themselves up, and "say" they are astrologer, and take people's money. I firmly believe that Astrologers need to pass tests and be LICENSED; they need to show 'proof' they are educated!
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OR, if self-taught, be 'required' to take a "proficiency exam" in order to "legally" be accountable -- even be put in JAIL for harming someone's LIFE.

It's been unregulated, and the PUBLIC has NO idea if the person they use are SCAMMING them with 'fake astrology'.

It's good you're bringing this UP!

FEAR-based agendas designed to hook-you {keep you upset and anxious} is for their PROFIT. I think psychologically screwing people up, should be considered as MAL-Practice, and subject to The Law and penalties. Be sued.

There's been a "trend" over past decade, of taking regular astrology words and vocabulary, and, remaking (misrepresenting) definitions and interpretations, all based on uninformed opinion-and-consensus.

That's not 'real' astrology.

The country you are in, there may exist astrologers with affiliations to Professional Astrology organizations.

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Because of "how vulnerable" you are right now ---
I'd say to slow down, and
stop using astrology for NOW,
until you've had a PROFESSIONAL straighten out the 'errors' implanted in your mind.

Your head is filled with WRONG Ideas about your life, which will impair you, and have you MISS important opportunities for success!

You can screw up your life by taking advice from people who are sooo irresponsible with their words, knowing that people will use them to guide their future.

Get a Certified Seasoned Professional.

And I'd love to see you REPORT that Harmful Astrologer to the Astrology Professional Organizations.

IF you contact Professional Astrology Organizations and Schools, they can steer you towards Astrologers with Integrity, and training.

Astrodienst website has links to some of the better schools.

- www.astro.com

Do a google-search.

posted June 07, 2021 02:04 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I’ve lost things when it hasn’t been my fault.

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posted June 09, 2021 04:14 AM            

Still haven't figured out how I feel about that, it's a mess.

I am usually cautious about expansions looking out for restrictions. Prone to depression. I guess Saturn is stronger in Libra, but Jupiter's position is supposed to be beneficial in the 11th house.

I can't take rest on weekends feeling an anxiety to work but procrastinate a lot on work days.

posted June 09, 2021 12:55 PM            

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Originally posted by andrea22:
My chart ruler Jupiter in pisces in 9th house square Saturn in saggi by 3.6 degree applying

Does this automatically means bad luck,danger,misfortune? Is it considered the worst aspect someone can have in natal? Is my life in constant danger?

Other aspects is saturn trine my sun in pisces and mars but at 10 wide orb
And jupiter trine Pluto exact at 0.20

Does this ease that square a bit or not at all?

I regret seeing that Jupiter Saturn square,is it really most misfortunate aspect ever ??

Ive see many celebrities or famous people have it and Im trying to calm down somehow

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It is harmful to think that way. There is no placement that is impossible to overcome. It is entirely up to how the native acts it out. I have the exact same placement, Jupiter 15°13 Pisces & saturn 13°33' Sagittarius. So squaring at less than 2 degrees. Jupiter trines pluto too. If my math is correct you are probably like 2 months older than me. I've got a pretty difficult chart as it is..I'd say I have placements that I consider more difficult than this one but difficult placements challenge you. You can look at it like "omg I'm ****** " or be like "psh I got this" Like teasel said in her post I tend to have good and bad luck around the same time. I try and see the bad luck as universal protection as well as a lesson. With saturn comes lessons.

You are aware of it though, that's EVERYTHING right there. You will learn as you go. With saturn there is karma & Jupiter is luck. We typically think "bad" when we hear karma & "good" when we hear the word luck. But the truth is you can just as easily aquire good karma and have bad luck. I think it is funny..everyone is aware of that fact yet we still automatically associate luck with good and karma with bad anyway. My self included. I think saturn, Jupiter aspects are the key to this. The square is going to make its lessons more painful but that's really the only way we learn. Getting rid of all the negative associated with this placement you can manipulate this energy to work in your favor.

The purpose of a square is to become a trine. Someone with saturn trine Jupiter probably seems to have good luck. This is someone who has either learned from the square in a prior life or is contracted to learn in the future.

Jupiter co-rules pisces & rules Sagittarius. Already the Jupiter energy is much more abundant in this placement so we kind of have that working in our favor.😉

I'm learning to successfully navigate this placement myself so maybe we will learn a thing or two from each other along the way. This thread reminded me to be conscious of this aspects, specially right now as I recently turned focus towards it but haven't really tuned in fully. There is likely a cosmic event taking place that is causing us to pay close attention to it right now.

posted June 13, 2021 12:09 PM            

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Alison wrote: "I think I have a minority view of "bad" aspects. In my experience I have just seen too many charts with a wealth of lovely trines that seem to be attached to drug addicts, grifters, passive aggressives and so on. Squares build character and make everyday heroes. I think it's because the native has to make a decision to *change their luck* and make their own way as opposed to doing everything they can to preserve their personal status quo. Saturn square Pluto will ultimately overcome great odds, not because their lives are hard, but because they understand it's possible. More interesting, even."

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