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Topic: WEED vs. ALCOHOL
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Valus Knowflake Posts: 340 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 30, 2009 08:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCbDF-OPDX4 "The Irony Of It All" by The Streets
Hello, Hello. My names Terry and I'm a law abider There's nothing I like more than getting fired up on beer And when the weekends here I like to exercise my right to get paralytic and fight a good bloke fairly But I get well leery when geezers look at me funny Bounce 'em round like bunnies I'm likely to cause mischief Good clean grief you must believe and I ain't no thief. Law abiding and all, all legal. And who cares about my liver when it feels good What you need is some real manhood. Rasher, Rasher, Barney and Kasha, putting peoples backs up. Public disorder, I'll give you public disorder. I down eight pints and run all over the place Spit in the face of an officer See if that bothers you cause I never broke a law in my life Someday I'm gonna settle down with a wife Come on lads lets have another fight...
Eh hello. My names Tim and I'm a criminal, In the eyes of society I need to be in jail For the choice of herbs I inhale. This ain't no wholesale operation Just a few eighths and some Playstations my's vocation I pose a threat to the nation And down the station the police hold no patience Let's talk space and time I like to get deep sometimes and think about Einstein And Carl Jung And old Kung Fu movies I like to see Pass the hydrator please Yeah I'm floating on thin air. Going to Amsterdam in the New Year - top gear there Cause I taker pride in my hobby Home made bongs using my engineering degree Dear Leaders, please legalise weed for these reasons. Like I was saying to him. I told him: "Top with me and you won't leave." So I smacked him in the head and downed another Carling Bada Bada Bing for the lad's night. Mad fight, his face's a sad sight. Vodka and Snake Bite. Going on like a right geez, he's a twat, Shouldn't have looked at me like that. Anyway, I'm an upstanding citizen If a war came along I'd be on the front line with em. Can't stand crime either them hooligans on heroin. Drugs and criminals those thugs on the penny coloured will be the downfall of society I've got all the anger pent up inside of me. You know I don't see why I should be the criminal How can something with no recorded fatalities be illegal And how many deaths are there per year from alcohol I just completed Gran Tourismo on the hardest setting We pose no threat on my settee Ooh the pizza's here will someone let him in please We didn't order chicken, Not a problem we'll pick it out I doubt they meant to mess us about After all we're all adults not louts. As I was saying, we're friendly peaceful people We're not the ones out there causing trouble. We just sit in this hazy bubble with our quarters Discussing how beautiful Gail Porter is. MTV, BBC 2, Channel 4 is on until six in the morning. Then at six in the morning the sun dawns and it's my bedtime. Causing trouble, your stinking rabble Boys saying I'm the lad who's spoiling it You're on drugs it really bugs me when people try and tell me I'm a thug Just for getting drunk I like getting drunk Cause I'm an upstanding citizen If a war came along I'd be on the front line with em. Now Terry you're repeating yourself But that's okay drunk people can't help that. A chemical reaction happening inside your brain causes you to forget what you're saying. What. I know exactly what I'm saying I'm perfectly sane You stinking student lameo Go get a job and stop robbing us of our taxes. Err, well actually according to research Government funding for further education pales in insignificance When compared to how much they spend on repairing Leery drunk people at the weekend In casualty wards all over the land. Why you cheeky little swine come here I'm gonna batter you. Come here.
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SunChild Moderator Posts: 167 From: Melbourne. Victoria. Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 30, 2009 08:38 AM
The video made me laugh IP: Logged |
Valus Knowflake Posts: 340 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 30, 2009 08:43 AM
Me too.
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originalcopy Knowflake Posts: 22 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 30, 2009 11:15 AM
thanks, i had never seen the clip IP: Logged |
cpn_edgar_winner Knowflake Posts: 325 From: Toledo, OH Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 30, 2009 04:00 PM
another victimless crime, total waste of taxpayers money.not to mention a great natural resource. IP: Logged |
cpn_edgar_winner Knowflake Posts: 325 From: Toledo, OH Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 30, 2009 04:00 PM
dbl post.IP: Logged |
Valus Knowflake Posts: 340 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 01, 2009 09:15 AM
Both good points. If the government legalized it, they could tax it and make $$$$$$$, in addition to saving money by not prosecuting and incarcerating victimless "criminals".I'm happy to report that, in Massachusetts, now, you only get a ticket for anything under an ounce. Its a step in the right direction.
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WinkAway Knowflake Posts: 52 From: Murray, UT Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 03, 2009 02:24 AM
Hey there V! Interesting topic.. I personally think weed and alcohol are very similar. I don't see anything wrong with making it legal. Just like alcohol, they would have to establish a way to monitor it, but that would just take time. And you put someone drunk next to someone stoned and I doubt you'd be able to tell much of a diff without a breath test... Mass, eh? lol
------------------ "I'm selfish, impatient, & a little insecure. I make mistakes, I'm out of control and at times I'm hard to handle, but if you cant handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best." - Marliyn Monroe
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SunChild Moderator Posts: 167 From: Melbourne. Victoria. Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 03, 2009 09:32 AM
I'm 110% sure I can tell the difference IP: Logged |
cpn_edgar_winner Knowflake Posts: 325 From: Toledo, OH Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 03, 2009 09:39 AM
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Valus Knowflake Posts: 340 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 03, 2009 12:57 PM
Very good points, winner. quote: i also think it medicates a lot of people with anxiety and relieves them from anxiety related health problems. i would rather see those people do a natural medication than reaching for a valium or xanax which is addictive and actually makes anxiety worse in the long run.
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Valus Knowflake Posts: 340 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 03, 2009 01:01 PM
2 Million Alcohol-Related Deaths Every Year http://www.america.gov/st/health-english/2008/October/20081023115119abretnuh0.9323999.html How many marijuana-related deaths? Zero.
Case closed.
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T Knowflake Posts: 408 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 03, 2009 01:02 PM
Funny song. Though can i just mention that I have seen some pot addicts who turn downright NASTY when theyre jonseing and can't get any. Not pretty or fun to be around. IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 434 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 03, 2009 01:56 PM
yes its funny how addicted people get to a basically non-addictive substance. just goes to show addiction is in the person not the substance...give a pothead a few days off the stuff and they come back, whereas with alcohol it can take a lifetime to get straight. drunks are notoriously difficult on OR off the stuff.some of the claims for marijuana are a little overthetop or subjective, but it does tend to be a more peaceful state of mind than the alky kind, and actually has some very GOOD effects on the respiratory system. marijuana aside hemp was the US's first billion dollar crop. paper, cloth, a long list of products made from this plant were superior to their modern counterparts, and for the ecology a hemp crop grows up in a season while trees and oil (yes hemp can be used to make plastics and fuel too) take decades and eons to renew.... IP: Logged |
Valus Knowflake Posts: 340 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 03, 2009 02:09 PM
T,Jerks get nasty when they cant get what they want right away. I see it all the time. I don't think it has anything to do with pot.
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Valus Knowflake Posts: 340 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 03, 2009 02:11 PM
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MysticMelody Moderator Posts: 95 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 03, 2009 03:28 PM
All of the chronic pot smokers I know are more miserable than not. Their kids are miserable too. Even the gentle John Denver types. And they are all addicted. Call it what you want... psychological vs biological etc. - they are as addicted as you can get. My ex-lover used to say... "the lows equal the highs". IP: Logged |
MysticMelody Moderator Posts: 95 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 03, 2009 03:34 PM
I guess you could say their violence is more inner directed so the point that people on alcohol are more outer violence directed makes sense and appears to be true at first consideration.
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katatonic Knowflake Posts: 434 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 03, 2009 03:35 PM
well i know plenty of people who have smoked it on and off for decades. they might go to bed earlier when they're smoking, or sit around listening to music more, but otherwise they are pretty much unfazed by it...when they can't get any they don't climb walls and when they can they still go to work and do a good job...seems to me most of us are addicted to something, be it money, alcohol, drugs, sugar, our partners...i would rather see non-violent productive addicts than otherwise! the weekly paycheck and sugar seem to me to be the most pervasive addictions in our current world... IP: Logged |
MysticMelody Moderator Posts: 95 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 03, 2009 04:55 PM
katatonic, Yes, I was just sharing my experience but you may very well be right. I haven't decided yet on this one. I wrote this:My ex lover was abusive due to his damaged way of viewing the world which is a combination and culmination of effects of forces acting on his life experiences since before he was even born. and then Cut it because it needed more and I was too tired to support the argument/ explain why that was relevant. But I was saying (in my manner) that people who are miserable are more drawn etc. so it could be chocolate... not chocolate's fault... etc basically the same place you went with it. It is about escape. It dulls the frontal lobe (task master) of the brain. IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 434 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 03, 2009 05:12 PM
hi mystic, i know there are plenty of people who ARE seriously addicted to weed. i don't mean to negate your experience. but i have seen so many high achievers also who smoke day-in and day-out, yet when there is none around, they are just fine. i think if you want an escape there is no end to vehicles. personally i never found it much good as a painkiller, quite the opposite, i would get "stuck" on my pain when stoned! some people get nicer when they've had a drink. and some people go berserk when robbed of their daily routine!
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MysticMelody Moderator Posts: 95 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 03, 2009 06:12 PM
hmmm... interesting. I think it is important to explore this topic. Thanks for sharing, obviously you are right that different personalities also respond differently. Some are more dependent, some more easily addicted and controlled... some just give up all of their power because they are despondent and don't care. I guess that is why chronic use can affect a certain group of teenagers so drastically.
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cpn_edgar_winner Knowflake Posts: 325 From: Toledo, OH Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 03, 2009 08:50 PM
i know people get addicted to many things including thier routine. i get terrible headaches if i don't get my caffiene. i think as a drug alcohol is more dangerous, but that is just my opinion.IP: Logged |
WinkAway Knowflake Posts: 52 From: Murray, UT Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 04, 2009 12:40 AM
Okay, here's an article I found online from a former police chief who's pro pot... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/norm-stamper/420-thoughts-on-pot-vs-al_b_188627.html ------------------ "I'm selfish, impatient, & a little insecure. I make mistakes, I'm out of control and at times I'm hard to handle, but if you cant handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best." - Marliyn Monroe
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la_sexorcisto Knowflake Posts: 14 From: wat Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 04, 2009 12:42 AM
i'm gonna have to go with weed, hands down.IP: Logged |