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Amphitrite
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posted March 27, 2011 02:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amphitrite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am truly shocked and appalled at the content of the most recently closed thread.

How dare any individual deem it to be acceptable to dump the personal information of anyone in such a cruel and viscous manner on a public forum. What part of that is okay?

Lindaland is supposed to be a peaceful community that is accepting and tolerant towards all people, with the hope that such a environment will help people to feel nurtured, secure, and safe to open up and share any issues and experiences they may have along with encouraging personal growth.

Reading a thread like that is seriously disappointing.

We are so lucky here to have the opportunity to participate in this community and make it a warm and happy place to be, so that we can all help each other reach a higher more evolved, peaceful place.

Being mean and cruel is unnecessary, and does nothing to help anyone or any situation. Perhaps next time when faced with two directions, take the high road. Practice the love and light and blessings and mean it.

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SunChild
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posted March 27, 2011 05:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I can kind of take the blame for that one, opening up a vortex for the negativity to enter, I mean I understand I didn't make certain people behave a certain way, but it was poor understanding of the bigger picture.

There are a couple of knowflakes here who have serious issues with each other, so obviously you are disappointed with those people. Maybe it can become a rule that those sorts of things should be kept outside of LL ~ I don't know the answer. Obviously it is bothering quite a few people.

We are in dire trouble if we have to ask where the Love & Light is... but I don't feel we are in trouble here at LL, it is in everyone of us, I can feel it, I'm not sure what to do about the dilemma though, the knowflakes who are facing off, I don't know why we become so involved with each other and fight here.

There are some karmic gears shifting, and if we can see the bigger picture we may have the patience and strength to endure it.
If I go into too much detail I fear I will be offering opinions when in my heart I don't want any involvement. So that is all I will say.

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Randall
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posted March 27, 2011 05:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It wasn't your fault, SC. And I have asked them both in the past to keep it off Lindaland. It takes two to tango, and public confrontations like this are unbecoming of a Moderator.

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Deux*Antares
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posted March 27, 2011 07:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deux*Antares     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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It takes two to tango

Very true.

ETA: What Randall said about taking a day off = sooo funny.

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TxGirl
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posted March 27, 2011 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TxGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
“Strength of character means the ability to overcome resentment against others, to hide hurt feelings, and to forgive quickly.”

Just love and pray for them, or whatever you may do. Never know what someone else may be going through.

"Keep in mind, hurting people often hurt other people as a result of their own pain. If somebody is rude and inconsiderate, you can almost be certain that they have some unresolved issues inside. They have some major problems, anger, resentment, or some heartache they are trying to cope with or overcome. The last thing they need is for you to make matters worse by responding angrily."

I'm not sure who yall are talking about, and I don't really want to know either. I've had my times, and I bet I'll have more. I'm not perfect and no one is.

They are here to learn, we all are. No better way to teach than through love.

This is a loving community but we are flawed people, so if someone else is having a hard day, just love them- you may be the only one who will.

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Ami Anne
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posted March 27, 2011 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You did nothing wrong ((Sun Child)))
I will learn what I need to and put this behind me.


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Scorpionic_Web
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posted March 27, 2011 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic_Web     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I enjoy all the personal attacks around here, even if having been on the receiving end of one recently, myself.

I'd prefer to see this place as a reflection of reality, with all its love and hate, rather than a mock utopia, where we all compliment each other for being so "enlightened".

Like I said, this place is a great forum for a "reflection" of reality. No need for reality, itself. There's no need to get so serious or personal here. Probably 80% of what I say on this website is tongue-in-cheek and it's because I know I have the opportunity to spur controversy without ever trampling on reality.

Hence, lighten up, lest we fail to enlighten up, y'all.

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Amphitrite
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posted March 27, 2011 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amphitrite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All of this unnecessary fighting, slander and disappointing behavior will not have been for nothing if we can all move forward and learn from it.

It is so much easier to forgive a fellow traveller than maintain a toxic grudge.

We all make mistakes, and there are times when we all could have done things better, we are all human afterall. So let's not continually drag each other through the mud, it just so is not worth the emotional drain.

Nobody expects that everybody in a community is going to form close friendships, but at the very least we can show each other respect, and treat each other as we in turn would like to be treated. This is not a difficult thing to do.

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TxGirl
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posted March 27, 2011 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TxGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Life is just way too short to focus your time and thoughts on things that are unimportant or even hurtful. It happened, it's over. Things will happen again and they'll be over too. It's life. And that will be over soon enough anyways, so don't give mind to the things that don't matter.

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abcd efg
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posted March 27, 2011 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for abcd efg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TxGirl:
Life is just way too short to focus your time and thoughts on things that are unimportant or even hurtful. It happened, it's over. Things will happen again and they'll be over too. It's life. And that will be over soon enough anyways, so don't give mind to the things that don't matter.

TxGirl, you put it so beautifully and with such cool clarity!!! Nice.

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Randall
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posted March 27, 2011 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We are all LL family. And like any real-life family, some of my worst arguments have been with my family, and I don't have to even like everyone in my family. But you know what? In the end, bottom line, we are still family.

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Ami Anne
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posted March 27, 2011 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randall
She slandered me. Those things should not be allowed to stay there.
How can you let that thread stay?

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Randall
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posted March 27, 2011 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I was slandered, I deleted some strings and was crucified. I had thought we all came to the conclusion that nothing would be deleted.

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Ami Anne
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posted March 27, 2011 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randall
I am begging you.Please, erase that thread.
There are lies and slander about me on the open web.
There is freedom of speech and there is shameless slander.
This is the latter.
I am praying God will give you wisdom in your choice.

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juniperb
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posted March 27, 2011 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
When I was slandered, I deleted some strings and was crucified. I had thought we all came to the conclusion that nothing would be deleted.


Yes, I believe that was the consensus.

Ugly as it may be, erasing it will only add fuel to a fire that is smoldering.

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Ami Anne
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posted March 27, 2011 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is EASY for you to say,Juni,when YOU were not slandered.
I trust Randall's character.
I told him how I felt.
I learned a horrible lesson about discernment and the result was this awful thread with terrible lies about me.
I pray Randall erases it.
I do not deserve to live with these lies about me on the open web.
I can only ask him. I can't do more than that.
Please, Randall, erase it.

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Randall
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posted March 27, 2011 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm going to delete it due to it having Adam's full name on it. Ami and EES, you both have to ignore one another. I don't care about what goes on off of Lindaland, but you two are contaminating the site with this bickering. If you both cannot have the discipline to avoid one another, I will have no choice but to strip Mod status from you. Nothing personal, as I like you both, but this is reflecting very badly on the Mod position in general as representatives of Lindaland.

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"All deaths are suicides, do you realize that? Every single one. The only distinction is that, with some people, suicide is a subconscious choice, and with others it's a conscious choice. Otherwise, those who commit suicide and those who succumb to accident, illness or "old age," die for exactly the same reason: belief in the inevitability of death." Linda Goodman

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Ami Anne
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posted March 27, 2011 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Randall.
I learned my lesson.

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He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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juniperb
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posted March 27, 2011 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am looking at this objectively and favor no one in this situtation. I am looking at all sides of the fence.

If it is deleted, it will indicate to some a member is being favored.

The full name is moot as it is on FB anyhow.

That is a large part of what the underlying cause is and perpetuates the continued sniping .

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Ami Anne
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posted March 27, 2011 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, Juni
Let someone slander YOU and see how you would feel.
It was wrong.
She said vicious ,cruel lies.
It is easy for you to sit there and debate it when it was MY heart that was being sliced,not yours.

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Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Ami Anne
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posted March 27, 2011 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyway
I learned huge lessons.I am going on to the next stage of my life with my website .
I am ,almost, at the professional level with my guitar.
I learned lessons from pure pain.
I needed the lessons.
That is all I have to say.

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Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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juniperb
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posted March 27, 2011 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don`t have a bone to pick with anyone nor do I have an emotional investment here.

I am looking at the health of Lindaland. Period.

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Randall
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posted March 27, 2011 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Facebook is different from the open web. Nothing but profile names will show up on search engines with Facebook (you have to log in to view anything). I have a legal obligation that I must at least make a good effort to try to uphold, since Lindaland is frequently spidered by search engines. It's the full name accompanied with the unsavory remarks about the named person that calls upon my legal responsibility--not just that a person's name was used.

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MoonWitch
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posted March 27, 2011 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonWitch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think EES would have said what she said had someone not threatened repeatedly in a domineering way to tell the board what EES does for a living. It seemed like a sort of blackmail, frankly, but it didn't work.

Just my objective observation as I watched the train wreck unfold last night.

So... EES was not the only one involved as some would seem to imply.

I do hope something is truly learned by all of this and I hope EES doesn't end up leaving over it.

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Ami Anne
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posted March 27, 2011 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*I* was being slandered---FIRST--Moon Witch.
Lies were being said about me--First.
I asked EES to delete the lies and she would not.
That is what happened.

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He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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