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RIAFC
Newflake

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From: Cardiff
Registered: Mar 2011

posted March 27, 2011 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RIAFC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've had a taster of this forum and i think i will be sticking to another astrological community i'm a member of. I don't want to criticise Randall who seems to be the head of this place and acted even-handedly, but how on earth other moderators are selected that then go on to publically slander and threaten others is beyond me. The 'Adam' thread saw one particular moderator slander someone who's ACTUAL FULL NAME, and it's a fairly uncommon name if that's how it's spelt, appears in the thread title! They allude, and outright threaten this person harm 'off-forum' whatever that means. They then are allowed to keep slandering him, and saying the most indiscrete and spitefully vindictive things about another moderators private life, even mentioning her marital situation and insurance payouts etc! Am i actually reading this right??? That thread should have been deleted. Not only has the moderator Amy got to have that information plastered permenantly across the forum pages, the guy who the thread is about will appear in google searches under his own name being slandered in the most outrageous way. Does anyone think this is a responsible or even legal way to carry on?
I don't know what he said to evoke this response but surely if it was that bad then Sunchild should call the police. Does that make sense? My sense though is that someones ego got bruised by a comment made on their wall that was a little uncomplimentary and they wanted to vindicate themselves by dragging others into it (which others seem more than willing to participate in for whatever reason). I have witnessed other bickering on this forum which seems constant to be honest. But this latest thread being fuelled by someone who in fairness seems nothing short of an outright bunny boiler - and they're the moderator??! It was repeated over and over, not just one remark. I can not believe this is allowed to carry on. Is it ok on this forum to use people's full names and mention peoples most private and personal information, discuss it among everyone publically, and then just leave it there and let that particular moderator keep 'moderating'? I don't wish to restart the argument so kindly lock this if you wish (straight away rather than after 6 pages of public slandering). I just had to express how atrocious i found that thread. Worse than a playground, and of questionable legality i would say. I have much better and more intelligent discussions on other forums.
Please don't let this criticism be taken as aimed at all members here. Most are good people i'm sure. But that thread, mainly because of one person, really stunk to high heaven. It should be removed not locked. Why that behaviour is acceptable i do not know. It doesn't seem that spriritual here. And spiritual, rather than 'spirited' debate is what i was after.

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TxGirl
Knowflake

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posted March 27, 2011 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TxGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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EverEvolvingSpirit
Knowflake

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From: A Place of Pure Love <3
Registered: Feb 2011

posted March 27, 2011 08:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EverEvolvingSpirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
TxGirl, the person was either "put up" to doing this by Ami and/or this is Adam himself. Its geared toward me to stir up MORE DRAMA which is long over already

Don't pay any attention to it.

At the end of the day I will STILL be a moderator because Randall and LL know my true intentions here. Not going anywhere. Tough luck.

EPIC FAIL

Have a great day

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TxGirl
Knowflake

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posted March 27, 2011 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TxGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I emailed you, check it please!

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EverEvolvingSpirit
Knowflake

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From: A Place of Pure Love <3
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posted March 27, 2011 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EverEvolvingSpirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TxGirl:
I emailed you, check it please!

Ok, boo, checkin mail

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EverEvolvingSpirit
Knowflake

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From: A Place of Pure Love <3
Registered: Feb 2011

posted March 27, 2011 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EverEvolvingSpirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know what, I retract that original statement. Today is a new day and I refuse to make a new mess of it. That isn't me. Yes I have some residual anger that is not allowing me to see clearly right now, however I will conduct myself like my normal self and will not give others glory by behaving otherwise

Anyhow, in response to the original post, people make mistakes. People are also human. People have tempers. If you are considering leaving because of me and me losing my temper, that is your choice. At the end of the day I apologized to LL members that witnessed that thread for my wrong doings. There is nothing left for me to do than move on.

So make this thread what you will of it, freely keep the focus on me if you'd like and miss the bigger picture of the wonderful people and the things you can learn here.

Your choice.

Have a wonderful day.

Thank you, TXGirl.

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lalalinda
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posted March 27, 2011 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No matter what the issue is, no one should have brought Ami's Son into the picture.

That was way below the belt.

I hope none of you have to bury a Son.

SunChild, you'll be just fine Sweetheart,
you have a beautiful family and this ugliness should never have to touch you.

Is there healing after toxic posts?
I don't know, it's getting harder and harder to ignore.

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juniperb
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posted March 27, 2011 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
RIAFC,you are from Australia, yes? I remember you.

Lalalinda

May WE all think before we speak.

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Randall
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posted March 28, 2011 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree, RIAFC, and I am sorry for your experience. Lindaland is not normally like this. It was a very vile string, and it was not reflective of what we are about. It has been deleted, and the Mod in question is no longer here.

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pire
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posted March 28, 2011 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
edited

I might as well climb back to my tree

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Cancer/Scorpio729
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posted March 28, 2011 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cancer/Scorpio729     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not an astrologer, but maybe this forum is hitting some heated transits?

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SunChild
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posted March 29, 2011 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Lala


I just want to clear a couple of things up. The INTENTION I had when starting the actual thread was to find out who was responsible, (which knowflake.) Yes I probably could have just emailed Randall or a couple of friends on here. I was certainly hoping I was not going to get a horrible surprise in finding out who it was. (As there have been a few two-faced knowflakes here, good in public and not so good in emails/FB ect...) and sometimes it's right to shine a light on such when it's there, so others can be warned. All I had to do was google his name and LindaLand together and I found out who it was right away. He has many posts with his own name in them. So in knowing who it was, there was no need to comment further there. Asking in public was my way of shining that light on who was responsible for such behavior for all to see.

I can't say I was oblivious to the fact that the thread could have taken a wrong turn, and I considered asking Randall to delete it, and by the time it happened (I think it must have been overnight for me) I was happy to see it gone. I'm sure everyone was.

It wasn't the idea that someone bruised my 'ego' or whatever, if it was not a knowflake a simple delete and a reporting of the person would suffice, I could not care less what a stranger thought about me having children... However, being a knowflake was another thing. I hold LL membership in a high regard, and I do not expect "evil" behavior like I did. And in the case there was harassment off line it could have been reported to Randall and hopefully that persons member ship could have been questioned. Call the police, well it wasn't a threat but it was vile enough. But that person was deregistered so no problem there.

Can you understand that it wasn't just 'oh poor me', it was the fact that it was knowflake behaving so rude and mean? I don't really have to justify myself to anyone but I do feel the need to present my intentions.

I am a kind, normal person. I do not slander, I only deal with facts. I will call out disrespect when I see it, like shining a light. I will stand up for myself, and I will find out the truth, I am guilty of handling things incorrectly yes, but in no way were my intentions any less than.
I never make accusations, or call people names. Describing a person as rude is not namecalling. Hindsight of course, is 20/20.

Anyway, I can understand people, friends of this person have a problem with that thread which has been deleted for a while now. I do not regret that thread (except for the ugly turn it took), but I certainly have learned a few new tactics with dealing with people like him.


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charmainec
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posted March 29, 2011 02:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SC

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Randall
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posted March 29, 2011 04:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SC, I think most of the comments made by the OP were concerning the member who was insulting the other member. Thanks for telling your side, though...especially about his name already being given on LL. I can definitely testify to the two-faced backstabbing...been there--got the t-shirt. It was a learning experience and was very revealing. I'm sorry that you endered such depravity. It wasn't your fault that it turned out so badly, and I don't blame you for starting the string. I wasn't around to close it early. So, some good came out of it, as we now have two more active Mods in this Forum. I do see that you were addressed in the OP's comments, so thank you for presenting your side.

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Ami Anne
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posted March 29, 2011 05:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear RIAFC
If you have ever been drowning and someone threw you a life preserver,that is what you did to me.
I doubt you have ever been in my exact position.
I can tell from your maturity and wisdom that you probably were not rolling around in feces like I was.
I wish I could give something back to you.
Please e mail me.
I am psychic .Perhaps,I could do readings for you--life time member

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He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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RIAFC
Newflake

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From: Cardiff
Registered: Mar 2011

posted March 29, 2011 06:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RIAFC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the only one who has behaved 100% maturely is Randall. Most of the other contributors weren't showing themselves in their best light. The Transiting Moon was conjnunct Transiting Pluto, and both squaring the Transiting Sun at roughly the time that thread fully erupted.
The notion that you can 'deal with' someone who isn't even a member here anymore by starting a thread on here with their name, when they were clearly happy to put their name to whatever they wrote on your wall, is a bit silly, but maybe you didn't feel strong enough to deal with the situation on your own. In fairness though SC was at least fairly restrained and moderate. How Tx could defend the 'rage by proxy' exhibited by the bunny boiler can not and does not make sense to anyone.
Anyway i just looked in and saw a few contributions had been made to this thread. Glad to see it hasn't kicked off again. And i'm only posting because i feel the situation was dealt with properly and credit where it's due.

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Randall
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posted March 29, 2011 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you. I can understand what SC did and why, though. After years of dealing with this same thing (same drama, different people), I have learned to take the high road and not let it affect me. It's not a frequent thing here. But I am the subject of much gossip on FB and elsewhere. My name must taste great, 'cause people can't seem to keep it out of their mouths. lol But I just shrug it off and focus on the positive. Onward and upward!

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SunChild
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posted March 30, 2011 04:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No worries

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“It’s an interesting thing. Seeing Kuan Yin relating to a flower so intently. She's not just looking at it; she's interacting with it…I’m seeing how the act of relating to a flower appears to be so simple. Yet, it takes a tremendous amount of courage to make such a “simple” act important. Now, the lotus is floating away.”

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Ami Anne
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posted March 30, 2011 06:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randall is right.You have to just keep putting yourself out there and you will learn.

There is no way forward but to learn and at some point,you are able to walk away,more and more, from trouble.
When you see trouble approach,you don't dive in, you walk away, quietly and simply,if you can.
That is one of my lessons,among others lol
You have to develop a thick skin.
No one can really hurt you unless you agree with them.
That puts the problem inside you,mostly.
We will always be hurt by people.That is human and good.
If not, we are too cold.
However, the degree can be modified by learning that you don't need to place your sense of self in other's hands.

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He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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LEXX
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posted March 30, 2011 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I missed that drama it seems; in the gone thread.
Do I need a recap in private to bring me up to speed?
Or can it be dropped?

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charmainec
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posted March 30, 2011 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We can recap in private - best if this is dropped from LL (we need the peace)

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Ami Anne
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posted March 30, 2011 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PLEASE DROP IT ON LL

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Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Randall
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posted March 30, 2011 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It was the ugliest string I think I have ever seen on LL. It was vicious.

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"All deaths are suicides, do you realize that? Every single one. The only distinction is that, with some people, suicide is a subconscious choice, and with others it's a conscious choice. Otherwise, those who commit suicide and those who succumb to accident, illness or "old age," die for exactly the same reason: belief in the inevitability of death." Linda Goodman

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Randall
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posted March 31, 2011 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But like everything else, good came from it.

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Ami Anne
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posted March 31, 2011 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*I* got a great deal of personal maturity from this .
I learned lessons ONLY to be learned by pain
The easier softer way does not produce the growth that nuclear devastation does.
I don't know if we humans learn by touching the fire,only.
I seem to but when I learn ,I don't go there,again,EVER,usually lol

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Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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