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Topic: Charisma
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Ami Anne
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posted July 15, 2011 08:15 AM
  
The thread in Astro 2 got me thinking about charisma.
It is one of those elusive traits.Very few people have it.
Most people want it lolWHO exemplifies charisma to you? ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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Ami Anne
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posted July 15, 2011 08:18 AM
I think Bon Jovi has true charisma. I have not seen him lately as I don't watch TV.
I saw him on U tube in some interviews.
He radiates inner and outer beauty to me.For ALL he has achieved, he is humble .I looked at his chart a long time ago. He is a Cap moon, I think and a Pisces ASC or something Pisces.
I do handwriting analysis. His writing is not as together as he appears to be.
However, who is  ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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Ami Anne
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posted July 15, 2011 09:14 AM
I have 2 men I think are super charismatic but not handsome in the classical way.
Johnny Cochran of OJ fame and John Gibson of Foxx News.
These men could use words like the most incredible tools.
I am a Gem Venus so maybe that is why they touched me but my larger point is that one can be very charismatic while not being classically handsome or beautiful------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Ami Anne
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posted July 15, 2011 09:51 AM
I think Dennis Rodman is charismatic. I read his biography a long time ago.I have not seen him on TV or the news cuz I don't watch TV or sports so if he did something bad don't blame me ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.
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sand
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posted July 15, 2011 10:40 AM
bill clinton who i think is a libra rising. libra rising is interesting because with the right aspects they either make presidents or if not really good waiters.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted July 15, 2011 11:49 AM
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Originally posted by sand:
bill clinton who i think is a libra rising. libra rising is interesting because with the right aspects they either make presidents or if not really good waiters.
Waiter at a F-I-N-E establishment ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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Lonake
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posted July 15, 2011 07:49 PM
Well I guess Oprah, the one and only.
She had (still has?) a good size charismatic following. She seems to radiate in lots of the pics I see of her.
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LEXX
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posted July 15, 2011 08:58 PM
Sean Connery
David Bowie
John Barrowman
Vanessa Redgrave
Judith Dench
And yes, Bill Clinton.
Others that do have it to a degree;
Geoffry Rush
Alan Rickman
The late Jean Russo
David Byrne
Mick Jagger
Helen Mirren------------------
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sand
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posted July 15, 2011 09:09 PM
yeah oprah!IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted July 16, 2011 01:58 AM
I see her as a walking diamond, bright, shiny, new ideas all over the place, the smile, the enthusiasm, etc. It does it for me 
The publishing industry talked a long long while about what she did for books and to get people interested, back in the game. And that Oprah book club seal was like a guaranteed hit (or seemed anyway) for a good long while. That, to me, is charisma, amassing a following.IP: Logged |
sand
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posted July 16, 2011 09:04 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Waiter at a F-I-N-E establishment
no i really mean waiters. iz not so bad. see i remember an incident while on vacation with family. my relatives remarked how familiar the waiter's face was. he was neither handsome/ ugly but more pleasant and affable and i kinda thought this is what libra rising must be like. i'm a 0 degree scorpio so i'm off by a few minutes from libra. i'm quite happy with my rising tho. okay back to charisma. tom cruise? was/ is still the biggest movie star in the world. probably the pound for pound charisma king. elvis. what about the evil ones? surely charisma doesn't go that hand in hand with goodness all the time. howard hughes? born during a thunderstorm as legend has it. hitler. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted July 16, 2011 09:57 AM
Oh Yes Sand , charisma can be used for good or bad---totally!------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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lechien
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posted July 16, 2011 11:14 AM
i'm not sure about Hitler. he probably had *something* to begin with, but majority was enhanced by props and well-prepared speeches etc. how much of that was his-own-self shining through, i wonder?IP: Logged |
sand
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posted July 16, 2011 12:35 PM
^he is a libra rising according to some websites buh then he's not my time either so i really wouldn't know. the stuff he did just seems so crazy that charisma iz one of the few explanations i could think of. oh and i read somewhere here actually that he's always been a leader during childhood. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted July 16, 2011 12:45 PM
quote:
Originally posted by sand:
^he is a libra rising according to some websites buh then he's not my time either so i really wouldn't know. the stuff he did just seems so crazy that charisma iz one of the few explanations i could think of. oh and i read somewhere here actually that he's always been a leader during childhood.
Well my passion when I was in school was Social Psych.
There are a MILLION Hitlers.It was the society which allowed it more than the traits in the man  ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Randall
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posted July 16, 2011 01:16 PM
Yeah, another time and another place, and Hitler would have just been a dishwasher at some restaurant and later in life probably some kook on the streets holding up one of those End Of The world cardboard signs. ------------------
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Frozen Queen
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posted July 16, 2011 04:40 PM
I disagree.Hitler had charisma, loads of it. He could bind an audience's attention, charm them, make them bend to his will through his words. Without charisma, Hitler would've been a gang-banger, not the infamous dictator that we know. ------------------
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MoonWitch
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posted July 16, 2011 05:32 PM
My fiance is the most charismatic person I know. People either love him or hate him but most end up loving him.
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Randall
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posted July 16, 2011 08:24 PM
No, I agree he had charisma. I'm just saying it was the opportune time and place that created the power wave he rode on. There are many Hitlerian types around at any given time; they can usually only muster a small crowd of followers. ------------------
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Betty Boop
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posted July 16, 2011 09:17 PM
Hugh Laurie -
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pixelpixie
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posted July 19, 2011 07:19 PM
I was just watching Man Vs Food- Adam Richman is SUPER Charismatic.He's just charming and outgoing and oh so cute. Also -another one from those shows- HGTV House Crashers-Josh Temple. Those are my two TV crushes lately.
"Charisma" It's 'there's just something about his guy' quality. Outgoing, intelligent, spunky, smart, challenging, endearing, talented, aware of themselves.
Bill Clinton had it in spades, as does Obama. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted July 19, 2011 08:12 PM
Bill Clinton and Obama --Charismatic?
Where is the air sickness bag  ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Lonake
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posted July 19, 2011 08:15 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Bill Clinton and Obama --Charismatic?
Where is the air sickness bag
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LEXX
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posted July 19, 2011 09:18 PM
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Originally posted by pixelpixie:
Bill Clinton had it in spades, as does Obama.
I agree! Also your description of charisma is right on!
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"Charisma" It's 'there's just something about his guy' quality. Outgoing, intelligent, spunky, smart, challenging, endearing, talented, aware of themselves.
Ever notice that when a guy has it, looks do not matter?IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted July 19, 2011 09:53 PM
Well, I guess it is good we all don't have the same taste.Everyone would be making a bee line for the same guy.
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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
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He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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