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Voix_de_la_Mer
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posted August 27, 2011 07:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This isn't for sympathy, attention, or even for response (response is of course welcome, but I am not expecting or asking for it).

It may not make a lot of sense.

But, I just want to apologise to anyone on Lindaland that I may have upset.
There isn't a bone in my body that wishes to hurt another human being, but I am I not yet wise enough to always prevent this happening - that is a flaw that I accept, and am very much working on.

So, without discussion, or excuse, if I have upset or hurt you in anyway, I just want to say sorry.

I have no defense other than my ignorance, which I will endeavour harder to fix.

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LEXX
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posted August 27, 2011 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

When I was a computer and internet newbie in March 2005,
I made so many netiquette mistakes.
I feel I have made great progress in learning how to get along with the wide diversity of folks I have met/encountered online.
I feel that one important thing is to never assume when communicating online.
Ask for clarification! We do not have those physical cues, the body language, and tone of voice when communicating by text only.
Blessings and Love to you Voix_de_la_Mer

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~The present time is theirs, but the future is mine.~Никола Тесла
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Voix_de_la_Mer
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posted August 27, 2011 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Lexx.
Yes, it is difficult to portary yourself accurately with only words on a screen, and even harder to interpret others.
I gain so much information from people's faces.
But I guess this is just another area to grow, which can never be a bad thing.

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juniperb
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posted August 27, 2011 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You`re right Voice, it doesn `t make much sense

I suggest much as lexx did, feel your way around, get to know the histories, share only the info you don`t want to bite you in the butt later.....then enjoy the forums, people and yours-elf !

btw have you read any of Linda`s work yet?

juni

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Voix_de_la_Mer
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posted August 27, 2011 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry Juniper,

It's based partially on a feeling, and some other stuff that it would be disrespctful to go into.

I know many people speak out when they are upset, but there are many that don't, so I guess I'm trying to cover all, and hope that those this applies to see it.

I haven't the cash to buy any new books yet, but I should do in a couple of weeks, and Linda is top of my list

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juniperb
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posted August 27, 2011 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Generally you can buy Linda`s books at ebay for a song. Scout around there and see whats offered

No worries, we`re all family here and like families, someone is bound to get offended at one time or another. If you did, I`m sure they are smart or kind enough to see your sincerety and let it go

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lalalinda
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posted August 27, 2011 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here you go Voix_de_la_Mer
some online Linda Goodman

Have Fun
http://mizian.com.ne.kr/englishwiz/library/names/zodiac/contents.htm
http://www.star-notes.com/

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juniperb
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posted August 27, 2011 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lalalinda, when was the last time I told you that you were awesome??!!!!

Consider it done

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lalalinda
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posted August 27, 2011 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh Ms Juni, You brighten my day

psst.. I think you're pretty awesome too

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LEXX
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posted August 27, 2011 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
Thank you Lexx.
Yes, it is difficult to portary yourself accurately with only words on a screen, and even harder to interpret others.
I gain so much information from people's faces.
But I guess this is just another area to grow, which can never be a bad thing.

You're welcome!
Yes, without those visual cues it is hard at times.
And without all the information on others.
For example;
when I have had mini-strokes and or neurological episodes;
I forget how to speak and type.
I can sometimes still copy cut paste.
My mind is fine but body and mind do not speak to each other properly.
I have been treated very cruelly by folks at times because they do not understand and some think I was faking for attention.
People would say if I was that ill I should not be posting or should be in bed or whatever.
Well that is very bad advice in my situation.
During such times it imperative to keep trying to type, keep trying to talk,
and communicate in any way possible,
because going to bed can make things worse!
Hospital can do nothing to help, one must just try to stay alert and ride out the storm.
If they saw me in person and knew how such brain body glitches affect a person,
perhaps they would better understand.
The same goes for joking taken seriously.
I often do not understand joking/sarcasm/humour,
even when I can see the person.
However in person it is much easier because their body language and tone of voice will tell me to not overreact because it may be they are teasing or joking.
Oh so much more difficult to determine intention when only communicating by text.

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~The present time is theirs, but the future is mine.~Никола Тесла
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dysfunctionalmystic
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posted August 27, 2011 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well you haven't upset me - just so ya know

but I understand that it's hard to know sometimes, especially when you're a bit sensitive to vibes which a lot of us here are. There's a part of me that cringes when I think I might have said something out of line but then I've got merc square mars and I've realised I'm gonna cause disruption from time to time. It's not done deliberately, I've just got these really annoying bits of my character that force me to communicate excessively and I can't help but share my opinion.

The net has taught me to be way more tolerant than I thought I ever could be.

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LEXX
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posted August 28, 2011 01:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
The net has taught me to be way more tolerant than I thought I ever could be.
Same here!

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~The present time is theirs, but the future is mine.~Никола Тесла
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sand
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posted August 28, 2011 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lalalinda:
Here you go Voix_de_la_Mer
some online Linda Goodman

Have Fun
http://mizian.com.ne.kr/englishwiz/library/names/zodiac/contents.htm
http://www.star-notes.com/


yesssh thank you for the link!

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Voix_de_la_Mer
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posted August 28, 2011 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by juniperb:
Generally you can buy Linda`s books at ebay for a song. Scout around there and see whats offered

No worries, we`re all family here and like families, someone is bound to get offended at one time or another. If you did, I`m sure they are smart or kind enough to see your sincerety and let it go


Here's hoping!
Thank you for the positivity Juniper

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Voix_de_la_Mer
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posted August 28, 2011 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lalalinda:
Here you go Voix_de_la_Mer
some online Linda Goodman

Have Fun
http://mizian.com.ne.kr/englishwiz/library/names/zodiac/contents.htm
http://www.star-notes.com/


Lalalinda, that's fabulous, thank you.
Should keep me going until I get my hands on the books

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Voix_de_la_Mer
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posted August 28, 2011 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
Thank you Lexx.
Yes, it is difficult to portary yourself accurately with only words on a screen, and even harder to interpret others.
I gain so much information from people's faces.
But I guess this is just another area to grow, which can never be a bad thing.

quote:
Originally posted by LEXX:
You're welcome!
Yes, without those visual cues it is hard at times.
And without all the information on others.
For example;
when I have had mini-strokes and or neurological episodes;
I forget how to speak and type.
I can sometimes still copy cut paste.
My mind is fine but body and mind do not speak to each other properly.
I have been treated very cruelly by folks at times because they do not understand and some think I was faking for attention.
People would say if I was that ill I should not be posting or should be in bed or whatever.
Well that is very bad advice in my situation.
During such times it imperative to keep trying to type, keep trying to talk,
and communicate in any way possible,
because going to bed can make things worse!
Hospital can do nothing to help, one must just try to stay alert and ride out the storm.
If they saw me in person and knew how such brain body glitches affect a person,
perhaps they would better understand.
The same goes for joking taken seriously.
I often do not understand joking/sarcasm/humour,
even when I can see the person.
However in person it is much easier because their body language and tone of voice will tell me to not overreact because it may be they are teasing or joking.
Oh so much more difficult to determine intention when only communicating by text.


You must gain so much strength through your troubles Lexx.
I think we can often take things like communication for granted, until we don't have it anymore, you are very inspiring.

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Voix_de_la_Mer
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posted August 28, 2011 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dysfunctionalmystic:
Well you haven't upset me - just so ya know

but I understand that it's hard to know sometimes, especially when you're a bit sensitive to vibes which a lot of us here are. There's a part of me that cringes when I think I might have said something out of line but then I've got merc square mars and I've realised I'm gonna cause disruption from time to time. It's not done deliberately, I've just got these really annoying bits of my character that force me to communicate excessively and I can't help but share my opinion.

The net has taught me to be way more tolerant than I thought I ever could be.


That I am happy about!
Hmm that's interesting about the aspect.
I have Mercury square PLuto, so perhaps I am not as clear as I could be in my communication, maybe a bit vague which can appear as 'hidden' and cause suspicion? Just a thought.

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MoonWitch
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posted August 28, 2011 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonWitch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These are the very first posts I remember seeing from you so you have never offended me! Hehehehe!

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Voix_de_la_Mer
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posted August 28, 2011 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moonwitch, so glad, but there is still time!

Just know that I am sorry in advance

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LEXX
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posted August 29, 2011 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
You must gain so much strength through your troubles Lexx.
I think we can often take things like communication for granted, until we don't have it anymore, you are very inspiring.

Thank you for the understanding and lovely compliments!
I sometimes come perilously close to crumbling and giving up;
but somehow I find a way to keep swimming!
Yes, I wish folks could better appreciate that they can always see, speak, walk, talk, and feel.
It is terrifying and or depressing those times when I cannot.
Love and Blessings to you Voix_de_la_Mer

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~The present time is theirs, but the future is mine.~Никола Тесла
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