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posted March 03, 2013 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
cable TV and/or video games avaliable to use/view at your leisure?

Whatever your answer....how do you think that effected your life? Would you offer the same to your own children, or curb it altogether (or somewhere in between)?

TV shows (and commercials) have changed drastically in a few short years. Did you grow up with a boob-tube babysitter and get to see all the pop culture movies of your day? Do you think it helped you? As a parent these days do you restrict your child's tv viewing or make a point to monitor it? At this point, I guess the questions apply to internet viewing too....

curious to hear any thoughts.....

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posted March 03, 2013 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
cable tv no. only in my grandma's house which i visited during summers. cartoons were only in the mornings anyway even in cable. there weren't much of those cartoon all day channels like now. i never watched nickolodeon or disney. especially with tween actors. i suppose the storyline never interested me.

i had a super nintendo, a sega dream whatever can't remember and the 1st playstation. i stopped playing 1st year high school coz i got a social life lol!

they never interested me so much. i suppose i preferred to be social.

not much effect. i grew up normal. offer the same i guess. but i don't really want to parent/ discipline. i'm too chill to be somebody's parent.

i had a babysitter that taught me how to play cards lol! i think i saw the one's i wanted to. ninja turtles movies and whatnot.

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posted March 03, 2013 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did have cable tv & video games.. but I was never a person to sit around doing that. It really bored me. I was quite outdoorsy.

I'd like my kids to have several options.. I mean I would get them involved in sports or dance - fun stuff... but I'd also provide video games/tv and so on...
I would definitely have a huge hissy fit, if I felt like my child was becoming a couch potato though. I would completely go boot-camp on their bootie.

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posted March 03, 2013 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I would completely go boot-camp on their bootie.

LOL

will respond more later on.

Thanks guys.

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posted March 03, 2013 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was put in front of a TV- watching the same shows over and over (the ones my mother thought were ok.) TBH, so much TV watching stifled my imagination as a youngster (what you spend your time doing from 0-7 becomes the thinking life of an adult). I had to overcome this, slowly.

Currently we have no free to air or cable TV by choice. todays viewing is archonic. However, we do own a large flat screen TV and an Apple TV (hardrive) to chose our own shows that usually consist of a series, movies ( for us parents) and wholesome music vids I make for the kids, and I downloaded some shows from 1986-1987 for Tahlea, and one Disney movie.

It hasn't always been this way, as in my heavily controlling the use of screen time. Though my eldest daughter did not even see a TV til she was 2ish. It can have an affect on a child's view of the world, and affect their communication. Although a child is hearing words there is no two-way, so the child does not respond the same as they would with a human. This on a regular basis is harmful to their development.

I can not totally restrict screen-time in a screen dependant world. I can and will make choices about what is entering my child's mind through the screen, how long they get to spend using it and his they use things like the Internet. The less the better when they are under 7, ideally not at all. There are TV addicts today and they don't even register it as a problem, just like food addicts ect... It's socially accepted. I think it's a sickness. I am not going to breed TV addicts, I am breeding creative, intelligent, minds with ingenuity at their core. It's different to wanting a bit of TV for some down time, than to watching every single program series like an addict. It's not a very productive or wholesome hobby... That's where I am coming from.

After the age of 7 then TV use is limited and screen such as an iPad also limited. I know children have a lot fun watching their favourite shows, so I am not against entertainment, only with caution in a young impressionable minds.

I know where I stand on the issue and I never try to give my views to others unless they ask, in my house hold other activities come way before the TV goes on. Sometimes there is no time for TV as play takes over.

I also made a curtain for the TV when it's not used so it is not the centre of the room. No focus on it at all.


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posted March 03, 2013 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also want to mention some exceptions- from what I've seen in real life. The human spirit is so powerful sometimes that it can rise above a lot of that stuff that people claim to be so damaging. This is less common though, I'd imagine.

I would never fall in love or hate the tv, but used wisely, it's ok and I probably would never throw it out- if I don't like what music videos are out there for young children, I make my own.

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posted March 03, 2013 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did watch a good amount of TV, but I did my homework, played with friends, made things, was drawing, cooking, swimming, walking the dog. We had an atari at some point, and a little computer that we hooked up to a tape player and the TV (I feel like a little old lady ).

Funny you should post this, because I was just thinking that I need to cut waaaay back on my TV watching, and my internet use. In the past, I used to be a busy little bee, getting other things done, and it's even more depressing, getting absolutely nothing done - just sitting there staring at the screen of this or the TV. It's one thing if it's a mental health break, but I do this much too often. Last night, I read instead of watching TV, before I fell asleep, and I loved it! I actually felt relaxed last night. I can't read when I don't feel that way.

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posted March 03, 2013 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my dad has this problem with my brother. he is a huge gamer. he even lies about getting a game because he has to ask permission before he can buy one even if he can afford to. he also watches youtube videos of... wait for it... video games!

i think it's in their charts how they will use media. i am born near mark zuckerberg and i have always used technology as something social for communication purposes. i was hugely addicted to chat when i was 13. i grew out of that for awhile but i am obviously hugely addicted to online communication still.

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posted March 03, 2013 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Odette:
I would completely go boot-camp on their bootie.

we don't have kiddie boot or fat camp here. i would have been though. i was a fat spoiled taurus. in 3rd grade i think i looked like drew carey with the crew cut and glasses. i was sent to tennis camp so i would lose some weight. i had such a huge crush on my virgo tennis instructor! my 1st gf shares her bday. she is famous now so i can look her bday up.

what i loved to do was collect stuff. i'd buy basketball cards and action figures.

also dogs. i had 3 at one point. a poodle, a spitz, and their son lol! if i could keep one thing it would be the dogs.

i kind of am still exactly the same way so u know do people really progress lol? i still love to collect stuff. dogs. flirt.

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posted March 03, 2013 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read from the creator of Bunheads, that when she wrote the Gilmore Girls, she wrote it in three large sections, filled with different scenes. Now, she has to write for six sections to accommodate all of the adverts.

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posted March 03, 2013 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I went back and forth between Granny and the 'rents growing up. Granny had only local TV stations and that was in a very rural, Bible Belt town so there were only 3 that were dependable enough to watch and even then it wasn't good quality (other channels came & went I guess based on weather conditions). It used those bunny ears antenna, too. That remains true to this day where she has no AC (and this is Texas) and her only phone is a rotary. That said she had a VCR (and she has a collection of I Love Lucy she likes to watch) and my cousin liked to watch recorded eps of Beavis & Butt-head which I'd watch with him occasionally (I thought it was mostly stupid, however, though I did enjoy Beavis & Butt-head Do America which he and his friends snuck me into when it played at a cinema in driving distance, me being 14 at the time).

The 'rents had cable (not sure how it happened, Dad said they had it until they got their first bill for it) but there was only one TV and Mom pretty much dominated it (unless Dad took control of it for a little while, but he wasn't big on TV or movies himself) so I didn't get much use out of it. I watched most TV with friends instead.

But I didn't take much part in it at either place. With Granny I was on a farm with many woods and there was not only plenty of chores but also picking berries for pies, skinny dipping and fishing, horseback riding, and all kinds of games (though some mind boggling boring in retrospect, like where we'd wait outside the one store in town on Sunday and try to guess which church just let out, though we got good at it).

Another hobby I had was skateboarding which Granny got for my 14th birthday, and I mention that because I'd always wanted a skateboard ever since I saw The Crow back when I was 11. Granny didn't like to encourage my tomboy ways but she did get me that and I did a lot (sometimes even getting to school and back on it). And that would continue to affect my life in both subtle and overt ways, and it was because of the first R-rated movie I saw (and later snuck in to see again)...just glad it wasn't the vigilante violence & arson of the movie that inspired me instead.

With the 'rents I avoided them as much as possible (so that definitely meant avoiding the TV while home) and practiced a lot of escapism via reading & writing my own stories. I also biked out to the woods a lot (though they disappeared pretty rapidly for new homes as I grew up) and being with friends...my BFF had a father she liked to avoid and we often both went anywhere but each other's home. She liked TV more than I did and got me into some shows, but it was never a big deal to me. We were both more into music anyway.

However, a movie I caught on TV (while Mom was passed out drunk) did have a major effect on my life...but that's a long story. I only watched it because it was raining too hard to go anywhere else right then and chanced across it, but I'm so glad I got to see it. But even then I quickly followed up with books (including the one the movie was based on) and so that continued that books affected me far more than movies.

Then when I moved in with someone just before I turned 17 I was asked to not partake in TV for an entire year as an experiment (and as it was so rural that one couldn't get anything without cable anyway it was pretty easy as most people I knew didn't bother with cable), though mild use of the VCR was permitted (mostly assumed to be educational somehow, and I never saw anything for entertainment without permission). So I took a suggested alternative and joined a D&D campaign (medieval fantasy roleplaying game) and that inspired me to explore history, philosophy, and a myriad of other things (as well as greatly expanding my vocabulary) that I believed had a positive impact on who I turned out to be, and I loved it far more than TV because it was not only socially bonding with all involved it inspired active creativity rather than passive viewing and there was real tension because the good guys weren't guaranteed to win, plus the lack of commercials only helped me to prefer it even more.

Nevertheless, after my year of TV fasting was up an older friend broke out the X-Files tapes and I became a huge fan (and had a crush on Scully & Mulder both), so if they thought I'd turn away from TV they were wrong...and I also made the one who made me swear off TV a year into a Daria fan.

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posted March 03, 2013 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Video games had not been invented yet.
Most folks still had b/w television.
There were no home computers yet,
no cable or satellite yet either.
For the most part did not have television.
I read over 2,000 books by age 18.
I explored the old growth forests before they were butchered by idiots again.
I camped, hiked, bicycled long distances.
My son did much the same, but had video games too, and was not into television.
He even got scolded by an idiot teacher because he could not do the ordered assignment;
"what is your favorite TV show and character?".
Well he did not have one because he did not watch television but rarely,
and then only educational programs.
He chose to not watch the popular shows/sitcoms.
The teacher said no to the educational shows;
as she wanted a sitcom or whatever.

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posted March 03, 2013 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, PixieJane reminded me: we didn't have cable until we moved to California, and my aunt had it. We had basic cable, but kept having to give up HBO and the others - we still don't have HBO, because the DVR and everything else costs so much. About $90 without anything extra added to it.

We had four channels in England, and didn't have a VCR until I was thirteen - and that was an old one.

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posted March 03, 2013 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As an adult I got a lot more into TV (typically via dvds) and it had a surprising positive affect on me at times (though I got bored with most), but that's another topic. That said my partner used to have cable but got so sick of the kids watching Disney (the Sag calls us "Disney-tards" for liking it), and her having to hear it, that she canceled it and now we only use the DVD player (or computer)...the kids have to go elsewhere to play video games (though I plan to get the boy his own gaming system as he gets older) or watch cable.

As for the kids I try to keep up with it and also talk about the things on it so that they don't get an unrealistic view of life or bad ideas from it, and I also point out how commercials (and sometimes news) is manipulative and how to handle that.

They love my Buffy and Angel dvds.

My philosophy in a nutshell is "all things in moderation." Moderate use of games and TV is no problem to me, and I even try to use it to make it an inspiring or learning experience as well as a socially bonding one.

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posted March 05, 2013 01:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Really insightful, girls/guys. Thanks.

I also grew up without much tv, but had girlfriends who had cable tv in their bedrooms.

Something I noticed about the few of them, none of them liked to read. ...

....just something I noticed when I thought back on things....

Personally I feel lucky that I wasnt allowed to watch much TV and we never had a VCR or video games (though different places we were babysat at had an early Nintendo, which my brother loved and I did not care so much about)

I do think not having it helped my imagination and how to this day, I could never be bored with myself and always find something to do, or think about....

i think it helped me to be able to entertain myseslf, but to this day, i have missed out on most of the pop culture movies that most people know about. Which can be weird sometimes, but not really. I saw most of the good ones at friends houses.

Thanks for sharing.

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posted March 05, 2013 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Really loved what you wrote SC.

especially this part:

quote:
I also made a curtain for the TV when it's not used so it is not the centre of the room. No focus on it at all.

How cool!

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posted March 05, 2013 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PixieJane, I was going to pick out my fave parts from your posts but it started to get sloppy. I love much of what you said.

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As for the kids I try to keep up with it and also talk about the things on it so that they don't get an unrealistic view of life or bad ideas from it, and I also point out how commercials (and sometimes news) is manipulative and how to handle that.

They love my Buffy and Angel dvds.

My philosophy in a nutshell is "all things in moderation." Moderate use of games and TV is no problem to me, and I even try to use it to make it an inspiring or learning experience as well as a socially bonding one.


Yep.

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posted March 05, 2013 01:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by teasel:

We had four channels in England, and didn't have a VCR until I was thirteen - and that was an old one.


I remember those days. Rabbit ears. All the cool kids had VCR's LOL

yea, i feel like a granny now too. haha

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posted March 05, 2013 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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we don't have kiddie boot or fat camp here. i would have been though. i was a fat spoiled taurus. in 3rd grade i think i looked like drew carey with the crew cut and glasses.


LOL

I remember seeing a pic you posted, of you as a chubby Taurus kiddie. Super cute. Huggie and squeezable. & don't worry, I looked the same way - a girl version of you. Total chubby-wubbie, rolley-polley, chunky Taurus girl.

My mom also kept me in an awful bowl cut for a big portion of my life. Total nerd.

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posted March 05, 2013 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lexxigramer:
Video games had not been invented yet.
Most folks still had b/w television.
There were no home computers yet,
no cable or satellite yet either.
For the most part did not have television.
I read over 2,000 books by age 18.
I explored the old growth forests before they were butchered by idiots again.
I camped, hiked, bicycled long distances.
My son did much the same, but had video games too, and was not into television.
He even got scolded by an idiot teacher because he could not do the ordered assignment;
"what is your favorite TV show and character?".
Well he did not have one because he did not watch television but rarely,
and then only educational programs.
He chose to not watch the popular shows/sitcoms.
The teacher said no to the educational shows;
as she wanted a sitcom or whatever.

and here I feel old remembering computers that had black screens with green type.

Your son sounds like an old soul, LEXX.

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