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AcousticGod
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posted November 20, 2013 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Our present economic system predicated on continuous, exponential growth is driving all of us towards a precipice. The entire economy is based on money created from interest-bearing debt which compels society into a “grow or die” situation. If we continue to grow the economy, we must consume more and more resources at an exponential rate. This means exponential rates in natural resource consumption, waste generation, population growth, biodiversity loss. If we do not grow the economy, debts cannot be repaid, bankruptcies loom, and production grinds to a halt. These are the only two options with the current system, both of which are disasters for humankind. Furthermore, the trend of increasing automation of production displaces workers and upsets the labor-for-income game at the very heart of capitalistic society. We simply need fewer and fewer people to work to provide ever higher amounts of output. So we encourage people to consume for no better reason than for the health of “the economy”. This is absurd and I think most people know it. Put simply, we must evolve.

Any new economic system must be a form of steady-state economics, one that utilizes interest-free money so economies are not under a pressure to grow. Most likely, there will be many different kinds of economies in a gradual transition to a world based on access (instead of ownership). The sharing economy helps people recognizing the inherent inefficiencies in ownership by helping them to utilize their resources more efficiently. Gift economies embody our natural desire to give and help to route resources to real needs, not through a government redistribution scheme but by recognizing collectively that when we give, we also receive the gift of gratitude. Resource-based economies put the focus back on the most efficient use of resources given the sustainable yield of local ecosystems.

Sustainable economics is not limited to just these ideas. Indeed, we are in dire need of new ideas. Time banks, LETS systems, local currencies, transition towns, social dividends, shifting taxation from income to natural resources are all some of the ways to transition out of the highly consumptive society and into resilient, local communities based on foundations of trust and interconnection. Remember, the only thing that gives a system power is people believing in the system’s stories. If we no longer believe in the story of growth, we can, as Gandhi says, begin “to be the change we want to see in the world.”

This pillar explores many ideas related to sustainable economics, documents successes and failures, as well as ways to integrate them into our every day lives. http://sustainableman.org/infobox/sustainable-economics/#sthash.NRLVVYwc.dpuf

It's always good to hear new ideas about things.
The site isn't mine. I just stumbled across it on Facebook, and thought this post was really intriguing. The site has even more ideas, one of which might actually help me make a little extra money (Task Rabbit).

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NoRainNoRainbows
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posted November 21, 2013 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NoRainNoRainbows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very interesting....the problem is when changing the system the beggining is always going to be troublesome and cause some chaos.....

and the current 'elites' as they like to fantasize about themselves, will milk that less than amused sentiment of the 'normal' classes to keep things as they are or even further their own interests through the displeasure created.

the truth is that there is a certain 'comfort' in things being as they are, and most people wouldn't risk giving it up, even if the plan for the future shows something better....so i think things need to change at a deeper than surface level, for them to really change....

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted November 21, 2013 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where are you going to get interest free money? That's like utilizing a resource without a price tag. In order to supply the resource in order to develop, then the source has to step up an increasing supply, which serves to inflate the heck out of the economy. Unless you want to do away with prices altogether, which would mean planned allocation.

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AcousticGod
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posted November 21, 2013 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree NoRain/Rainbows. It is interesting nonetheless. I would think that a fundamental shift like this would have to be practiced and perfected on a small scale before anyone could really know whether it works.

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