posted November 17, 2020 02:54 PM            

As it so happens, a question occurred to me recently that you could answer.

A Scottish woman on YT (I saw this some time ago) claimed that Scottish schools didn't teach much in the way of Scottish history. This got me to wondering recently, how is British history taught in Scottish schools? (That is, a brief overview of Scottish history is given, but generally implied--but surely not said outright--that the Scottish weren't anything until made part of the UK. This could also include teaching more of British involvement in WW2 than Scottish.) Or is British history also considered unimportant?

posted November 18, 2020 04:57 AM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I have heavy Scots-Irish ancestry from my dad's side, for what it's worth (and intend to visit one day as a result, but that's another topic).

As it so happens, a question occurred to me recently that you could answer.

A Scottish woman on YT (I saw this some time ago) claimed that Scottish schools didn't teach much in the way of Scottish history. This got me to wondering recently, how is British history taught in Scottish schools? (That is, a brief overview of Scottish history is given, but generally implied--but surely not said outright--that the Scottish weren't anything until made part of the UK. This could also include teaching more of British involvement in WW2 than Scottish.) Or is British history also considered unimportant?

I've been thinking a lot about how different nations teach history in their schools and some common patterns are emerging that just made me wonder. So I'd be appreciative if you'd be willing to answer (if not, no big deal, I'm looking for other sources of info, maybe even attempt to get a textbook for Scottish schools through the library, if possible, once it's open again).

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Hi Pixie, nice to hear from you!

Well, what history you were taught might depend on whether you went to a catholic school or not, although all schools to my knowledge, all schools did teach history in general as a subject.

I definitely got some Scottish history in both primary and high school with more of a cultural bent to it than pure history, and we would do projects on specific parts of history. I would say it was probably a bit sanitised, but maybe they were just making it 'age appropriate'. I remember them talking about the battle of Bannockburn, but not of the highland clearances, for example.

By the time the devolved Scottish government was fully formed I had left school, so I wouldn't have noticed any changes there, but I suspect more Scottish history would have been taught after 1998.

posted November 18, 2020 10:53 AM            

There are probably other factors...I don't know how Scottish schools work, but presumably some get more funding than others, and those with funding may choose to emphasize sports over academics, or maybe science and technology over the humanities if that's what's seen as necessary for the future.

And maybe the YTer just wasn't paying attention (lots of people here in the USA barely recall high school, even after only a few years, I suspect recreational drug use including heavy drinking to be involved, assuming there was no trauma).

posted November 19, 2020 10:39 AM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Thank you!

There are probably other factors...I don't know how Scottish schools work, but presumably some get more funding than others, and those with funding may choose to emphasize sports over academics, or maybe science and technology over the humanities if that's what's seen as necessary for the future.

And maybe the YTer just wasn't paying attention (lots of people here in the USA barely recall high school, even after only a few years, I suspect recreational drug use including heavy drinking to be involved, assuming there was no trauma).

And as you say, Catholic school is different. Here in the USA there are even atheists who will send children to Catholic school because they consider it safer (less school shootings, I can't think of one off hand but there have been so many here that I could easily have forgotten some) as well as higher quality education than the average American school (where many with high school diplomas have to take "bone head" classes to qualify for college as they can't pass the basic exam to get in, though maybe the obsession with testing these past 2 decades have impacted that), which to them make it worth overlooking the religious aspect...and that's saying something.

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That's interesting Pixie. Many catholic schools here have better academic outcomes and that can influence the decision to send children there. Even though we don't practice, I sent my youngest to catholic school because I wanted him to have the choice to choose or not choose the religion. If I'd sent him to protestant school he wouldn't have had the choice.

posted November 19, 2020 10:40 AM            

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
My mother's Dad's side was Scots. Does that count?

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posted November 19, 2020 10:41 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I have a little bit of all of the UK in me, and grew up mostly in England, but haven't been home for years. I was really homesick the other night, after looking at pictures of London, and just revisiting things that I used to love, thanks to the internet.

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posted November 19, 2020 11:02 AM            

Around the year 1981 I wanted to make a long-term visit to the Findhorn Village/Community in northern Scotland. Couldn't get a Visa to go through.

When I was around 4 or 5 years old, in a protective way, I used to tell my mother that my real mother was from Scotland. They mixed me up at the hospital. I didn't want her to be 'too upset' when she came to get me! After too many times of saying this with all genuine believing, she harshly scolded me and said NEVER to say that again.
oh my...

Deeply identified with too many Shirley Temple movies? awwwww

Scene from Wee Willy Winky {Shirley Temple, kilts}
[1:30] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMP0-8AlRf0

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Findhorn

posted November 20, 2020 06:11 AM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
I was a wanna-be for a while.

Around the year 1981 I wanted to make a long-term visit to the Findhorn Village/Community in northern Scotland. Couldn't get a Visa to go through.

When I was around 4 or 5 years old, in a protective way, I used to tell my mother that my real mother was from Scotland. They mixed me up at the hospital. I didn't want her to be 'too upset' when she came to get me! After too many times of saying this with all genuine believing, she harshly scolded me and said NEVER to say that again.
oh my...

Deeply identified with too many Shirley Temple movies? awwwww

Scene from Wee Willy Winky {Shirley Temple, kilts}
[1:30] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMP0-8AlRf0

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Findhorn

In Travel-Click feature of Astrodienst, ALL my planet lines gather-together in that general area of the world. Sweden/Scotland.

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That's awesome about Astro Travel-click. I saw you speak of this the other day Mirage, and I checked mine out. I have some major lines through a land that I have never been to, but has always enchanted me - Iceland.
We must follow our lines one day! I'm sure it was my NN that was indicated along with other planets, so I'm dying to go now.

Ahhh good ole Findhorn. Yeah, I went with a Buddhist friend back in 2006. It was OK. I usually assess places with my stomach and it didn't come close to how much energy I felt from Samye Ling in Eskdalemuir

(http://www.samyeling.org/)

So you must see Samye Ling if you do come to Scotland, it is beautiful and the energy is invigorating. So much love has been worked into the land there.

posted November 21, 2020 05:11 PM            

(music) Scotland The Brave
(Bagpipe marching bands, 2019)
[4:38] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnG1oUkWBa8

(music) Special "Scotland The Brave" mix by
Scottish tribal band 'Clanadonia'
for St Andrews Day 2019 in Perth
[2:26] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CdO1AOXLFs

St Andrews Day Celebration
November 30th
- http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/20556587

National Anthem:
Scotland - Flower of Scotland
(Constituent Country of the United Kingdom, lyrics)
[3:15] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YaHlR3jGFg

posted February 09, 2021 03:25 PM              

https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/statue-of-liberty-pont-de-grenelle

posted February 10, 2021 10:02 AM            

(music) Happy Birthday from the Caber Feidh Pipe Band
[0:31] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N-ogA-aJYs

(Link to Your LLC2.0 Birthday Thread)
- http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum25/HTML/005670.html