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Randall
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posted May 22, 2014 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(NaturalNews) There have been more problems with the Affordable Care Act's (a.k.a. Obamacare) ability to live up to its name than anticipated. That first enrollment slowed considerably, "to a crawl," is what some headlines stated. Then enrollments surged as more were caught in the squeeze of not having insurance and being penalized at tax time for that by the IRS.

Although there are options for short-term individual or group health insurance coverages in lieu of not being enrolled in Obamacare, those insurance providers may likely be outside the Affordable Care Act's sanctioned state marketplace venues. Thus, many are still affected by the IRS penalties for not being enrolled in Obamacare.

Let's look over those IRS penalties known as the Obamacare Tax Penalties, which are supposed to be taken by the IRS out of tax refunds and rebates if proof of Obamacare-sanctioned insurance is not provided:

2014 = $95 per adult and $47.50 per child per year or 1% of your income (whichever is greater);
2015 = $325 per person and $162.50 per child per year or 2% of your income (whichever is greater);
2016 = $695 per person and $347.50 per child per year or 2.5% of your income (whichever is greater);
2017 = Tax Penalty will increase by the rate of inflation going forward or 2.5% of your income
(http://obamacarefacts.com). Those whose taxable income is below 133% of the federal poverty level are exempt from these penalties.

Perhaps awareness of these IRS penalties, euphemistically called "shared responsibility fees," and the prospect of being without insurance after having it in place for some time was the motivating force for overcoming the Kafkaesque complexities of signing up for Obamacare that created a late signup surge surpassing the target of 6 million by reaching 7.1 million by the March 31 deadline.

Signing up and choosing a plan is not enrolling

That could turn out to be the you-know-what in the White House Rose Garden celebration punch bowl. On April 1, while celebrating the 7.1 million signups in the Rose Garden Obama crowed, "This law is doing what it's supposed to do. It's working. The debate over repealing this law is over. The Affordable Care Act is here to stay."

Well, there are those congressional opponents who disagree and are still considering pushing for Obamacare's repeal with valid questions. Even Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, who was getting hugs at the celebration ceremony after taking most of the criticism for Obamacare's early signup glitches, stated that, if the first month's premium is not paid, the person who signed up is not enrolled.

One of the more fierce opponents to Obamacare, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, cautioned, "We don't know of course, exactly what they have signed up for, we don't know how many have paid." (Emphasis added)

McConnell added, "What we do know is that all across the country our constituents are having an unpleasant interaction with Obamacare. Whether they can sign up for a policy or not, they are discovering, of course, higher premiums, a higher deductible."

Since those remarks, information from each state is revealing that approximately half of those who did sign up with a chosen program have not paid the first month's premium. So almost half of that 7.1 million may not be valid.

Another pitfall may revolve around the types of signups. The Affordable Care Act was ostensibly supposed to help the over 40 million uninsured get coverage, whether they were initially inhibited by low finances or prior health conditions or whatever else could render one uninsured.

So far, it seems that most Obamacare signups are from the previously insured who feel that they can't be without it. Also, many more, three- to fourfold, are signing up for the Platinum coverage than anticipated. Platinum covers 90% of all medical costs. This could burden the Obamacare providers with too many payments

With the complexities of signing up before the deadline, some who were rushed into Obamacare with higher premiums than they could afford or higher deductibles due to errors from rushed enrollments were instructed to appeal and get any errors adjusted.

But The Washington Post reports that HealthCare.gov cannot keep up with the thousands of errors being appealed.

So despite the crowing and back-slapping, there is still a good chance for the cries of "repeal Obamacare" to resume. Maybe this whole boondoggle misrepresentation of universal healthcare will crumble before it's repealed.
http://www.naturalnews.com/045240_Obamacare_premiums_insurance_coverage.html#

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posted May 22, 2014 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, just wait until the "Employer Mandates" kick in, then listen to the gnashing of teeth.

Just wait until insurance companies revise their premium schedule in the summer and notify O'BomberCare insureds their premiums are going up...AGAIN.

Just wait until it's revealed O'Bomber has obligated taxpayers to pay O'BomberCare insurance companies for any losses they incur.

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posted May 27, 2014 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My friend who recently began working after being a stay at home mom for 10 years complained that she had to pay 80 dollars a month for insurance. I had to bring her back to reality. Just a year ago it would have been 500 bucks a month or no insurance at all! 80 bucks is nothing.

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posted May 27, 2014 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Really? The lowest priced "Bronze Plan" for New York is listed at $276 per month, not $80 per month.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-50-states-of-obamacare-2013-09-27

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posted May 27, 2014 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jwhop:
Really? The lowest priced "Bronze Plan" for New York is listed at $276 per month, not $80 per month.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-50-states-of-obamacare-2013-09-27

Thats bull crap. Believe an actualy new yorker who lives here. Not some crap website. I think it depends on how much u get paid anyways.

My moms friend in miami is paying 40 but my cousin in tampa is paying 150. She gets paid more.

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posted May 27, 2014 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excuse me but Marketwatch is not a crap website.

When it comes to financial news reporting and statistical information reporting, Marketwatch is far more credible than the utterly unbelievable NY Times.

Those are the premium tables for all states for both Silver and Bronze O'BomberCare insurance premiums.

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posted May 28, 2014 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jwhop:
Excuse me but Marketwatch is not a crap website.

When it comes to financial news reporting and statistical information reporting, Marketwatch is far more credible than the utterly unbelievable NY Times.

Those are the premium tables for all states for both Silver and Bronze O'BomberCare insurance premiums.



Well they are wrong thats for sure. Do u know people already under obama care? Please share what they pay each month. Id love to know. And no offense but what does the ny times have to do with anything? I dont even read that paper or website. I prefer cnn.

I didnt get any statistics from ny times by the way. Or any other internet website. I got them from REAL PEOPLE already under obama care. Cant get more accurate then that.

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posted May 28, 2014 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Listen, when it comes to statistical information....published by the various states, I'll take the plan rates published by the states themselves over the anecdotal statements made by others.

Fact is, I know of some..lots of people who pay 0 for their health insurance. They're on Medicaid and we're all paying for their health insurance.

But, this thread is about O'BomberCare enrollees who never paid their O'BomberCare premiums and are therefore NOT INSURED. That didn't stop the Marxist Messiah from counting them in that phony 8 million number of O'BomberCare insureds...who really AREN'T.

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posted May 28, 2014 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok so thats their problem then if they dont want health insurance and want to die i guess.

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posted May 28, 2014 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh gee, I didn't know people who don't have O'BomberCare are going to die...from lack of O'BomberCare insurance.

Please 'splain how that works for me.

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posted May 28, 2014 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jwhop:
Oh gee, I didn't know people who don't have O'BomberCare are going to die...from lack of O'BomberCare insurance.

Please 'splain how that works for me.


Well so be it then if they get cancer or some other type of infection or deady disease. I guess they will pay 240,000 dollars or more to get treated when they should have just gone with o'bomber care lol.

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posted May 29, 2014 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
O'BomberCare is more likely to kill the people you say you're concerned about.

The most highly skilled doctors in each medical specialty and the best hospitals ARE NOT IN THE O'BOMBERCARE NETWORKS.

Those who buy O'BomberCare are dooming themselves to 2nd and 3rd tier medical treatment.

For this nonsense, O'Bomber is destroying the best health care delivery system in the world...and when the Marxist Messiah is finished, there will still be just as many uninsured Americans as there were when he began his Marxist plan to Socialize America's health care system...more than 30 million.

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