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LeeLoo2014
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posted November 19, 2016 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Umberto Eco
New York Review of Books,
22 June 1995, pp.12-15

Fascism became an all-purpose term because one can eliminate from a fascist regime one or more features, and it will still be recognizable as fascist. Take away imperialism from fascism and you still have Franco and Salazar. Take away colonialism and you still have the Balkan fascism of the Ustashes. Add to the Italian fascism a radical anti-capitalism (which never much fascinated Mussolini) and you have Ezra Pound. Add a cult of Celtic mythology and the Grail mysticism (completely alien to official fascism) and you have one of the most respected fascist gurus, Julius Evola.

But in spite of this fuzziness, I think it is possible to outline a list of features that are typical of what I would like to call Ur-Fascism, or Eternal Fascism. These features cannot be organized into a system; many of them contradict each other, and are also typical of other kinds of despotism or fanaticism. But it is enough that one of them be present to allow fascism to coagulate around it.

1. The first feature of Ur-Fascism is the cult of tradition. Traditionalism is of course much older than fascism. Not only was it typical of counter-revolutionary Catholic thought after the French revolution, but it was born in the late Hellenistic era, as a reaction to classical Greek rationalism. In the Mediterranean basin, people of different religions (most of them indulgently accepted by the Roman Pantheon) started dreaming of a revelation received at the dawn of human history. This revelation, according to the traditionalist mystique, had remained for a long time concealed under the veil of forgotten languages—in Egyptian hieroglyphs, in the Celtic runes, in the scrolls of the little known religions of Asia.

This new culture had to be syncretistic. Syncretism is not only, as the dictionary says, “the combination of different forms of belief or practice”; such a combination must tolerate contradictions. Each of the original messages contains a silver of wisdom, and whenever they seem to say different or incompatible things it is only because all are alluding, allegorically, to the same primeval truth.

As a consequence, there can be no advancement of learning. Truth has been already spelled out once and for all, and we can only keep interpreting its obscure message.

One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements. The most influential theoretical source of the theories of the new Italian right, Julius Evola, merged the Holy Grail with The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, alchemy with the Holy Roman and Germanic Empire. The very fact that the Italian right, in order to show its open-mindedness, recently broadened its syllabus to include works by De Maistre, Guenon, and Gramsci, is a blatant proof of syncretism.

If you browse in the shelves that, in American bookstores, are labeled as New Age, you can find there even Saint Augustine who, as far as I know, was not a fascist. But combining Saint Augustine and Stonehenge—that is a symptom of Ur-Fascism.

2. Traditionalism implies the rejection of modernism. Both Fascists and Nazis worshiped technology, while traditionalist thinkers usually reject it as a negation of traditional spiritual values. However, even though Nazism was proud of its industrial achievements, its praise of modernism was only the surface of an ideology based upon Blood and Earth (Blut und Boden). The rejection of the modern world was disguised as a rebuttal of the capitalistic way of life, but it mainly concerned the rejection of the Spirit of 1789 (and of 1776, of course). The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.

3. Irrationalism also depends on the cult of action for action’s sake. Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation. Therefore culture is suspect insofar as it is identified with critical attitudes. Distrust of the intellectual world has always been a symptom of Ur-Fascism, from Goering’s alleged statement (“When I hear talk of culture I reach for my gun”) to the frequent use of such expressions as “degenerate intellectuals,” “eggheads,” “effete snobs,” “universities are a nest of reds.” The official Fascist intellectuals were mainly engaged in attacking modern culture and the liberal intelligentsia for having betrayed traditional values.

4. No syncretistic faith can withstand analytical criticism. The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge. For Ur-Fascism, disagreement is treason.

5. Besides, disagreement is a sign of diversity. Ur-Fascism grows up and seeks for consensus by exploiting and exacerbating the natural fear of difference. The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.

6. Ur-Fascism derives from individual or social frustration. That is why one of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups. In our time, when the old “proletarians” are becoming petty bourgeois (and the lumpen are largely excluded from the political scene), the fascism of tomorrow will find its audience in this new majority.

7. To people who feel deprived of a clear social identity, Ur-Fascism says that their only privilege is the most common one, to be born in the same country. This is the origin of nationalism. Besides, the only ones who can provide an identity to the nation are its enemies. Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged. The easiest way to solve the plot is the appeal to xenophobia. But the plot must also come from the inside: Jews are usually the best target because they have the advantage of being at the same time inside and outside. In the US, a prominent instance of the plot obsession is to be found in Pat Robertson’s The New World Order, but, as we have recently seen, there are many others.

8. The followers must feel humiliated by the ostentatious wealth and force of their enemies. When I was a boy I was taught to think of Englishmen as the five-meal people. They ate more frequently than the poor but sober Italians. Jews are rich and help each other through a secret web of mutual assistance. However, the followers must be convinced that they can overwhelm the enemies. Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak. Fascist governments are condemned to lose wars because they are constitutionally incapable of objectively evaluating the force of the enemy.

9. For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle. Thus pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. It is bad because life is permanent warfare. This, however, brings about an Armageddon complex. Since enemies have to be defeated, there must be a final battle, after which the movement will have control of the world. But such a “final solution” implies a further era of peace, a Golden Age, which contradicts the principle of permanent war. No fascist leader has ever succeeded in solving this predicament.

10. Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology, insofar as it is fundamentally aristocratic, and aristocratic and militaristic elitism cruelly implies contempt for the weak. Ur-Fascism can only advocate a popular elitism. Every citizen belongs to the best people of the world, the members of the party are the best among the citizens, every citizen can (or ought to) become a member of the party. But there cannot be patricians without plebeians. In fact, the Leader, knowing that his power was not delegated to him democratically but was conquered by force, also knows that his force is based upon the weakness of the masses; they are so weak as to need and deserve a ruler. Since the group is hierarchically organized (according to a military model), every subordinate leader despises his own underlings, and each of them despises his inferiors. This reinforces the sense of mass elitism.

11. In such a perspective everybody is educated to become a hero. In every mythology the hero is an exceptional being, but in Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death. It is not by chance that a motto of the Falangists was Viva la Muerte (in English it should be translated as “Long Live Death!”). In non-fascist societies, the lay public is told that death is unpleasant but must be faced with dignity; believers are told that it is the painful way to reach a supernatural happiness. By contrast, the Ur-Fascist hero craves heroic death, advertised as the best reward for a heroic life. The Ur-Fascist hero is impatient to die. In his impatience, he more frequently sends other people to death.

12. Since both permanent war and heroism are difficult games to play, the Ur-Fascist transfers his will to power to sexual matters. This is the origin of machismo (which implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality). Since even sex is a difficult game to play, the Ur-Fascist hero tends to play with weapons—doing so becomes an ersatz phallic exercise.

13. Ur-Fascism is based upon a selective populism, a qualitative populism, one might say. In a democracy, the citizens have individual rights, but the citizens in their entirety have a political impact only from a quantitative point of view—one follows the decisions of the majority. For Ur-Fascism, however, individuals as individuals have no rights, and the People is conceived as a quality, a monolithic entity expressing the Common Will. Since no large quantity of human beings can have a common will, the Leader pretends to be their interpreter. Having lost their power of delegation, citizens do not act; they are only called on to play the role of the People. Thus the People is only a theatrical fiction. To have a good instance of qualitative populism we no longer need the Piazza Venezia in Rome or the Nuremberg Stadium. There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.

Because of its qualitative populism Ur-Fascism must be against “rotten” parliamentary governments. One of the first sentences uttered by Mussolini in the Italian parliament was “I could have transformed this deaf and gloomy place into a bivouac for my maniples”—“maniples” being a subdivision of the traditional Roman legion. As a matter of fact, he immediately found better housing for his maniples, but a little later he liquidated the parliament. Wherever a politician casts doubt on the legitimacy of a parliament because it no longer represents the Voice of the People, we can smell Ur-Fascism.

14. Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. Newspeak was invented by Orwell, in 1984, as the official language of Ingsoc, English Socialism. But elements of Ur-Fascism are common to different forms of dictatorship. All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning. But we must be ready to identify other kinds of Newspeak, even if they take the apparently innocent form of a popular talk show.

Full article here: http://www.nybooks.com/articles/1995/06/22/ur-fascism/


The message on the front celebrated the end of the dictatorship and the return of freedom: freedom of speech, of press, of political association. These words, “freedom,” “dictatorship,” “liberty,”—I now read them for the first time in my life. I was reborn as a free Western man by virtue of these new words.

We must keep alert, so that the sense of these words will not be forgotten again. Ur-Fascism is still around us, sometimes in plainclothes. It would be so much easier, for us, if there appeared on the world scene somebody saying, “I want to reopen Auschwitz, I want the Black Shirts to parade again in the Italian squares.” Life is not that simple. Ur-Fascism can come back under the most innocent of disguises. Our duty is to uncover it and to point our finger at any of its new instances—every day, in every part of the world.
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posted November 25, 2016 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Change
Jonah Goldberg

“Fascists,” “Brownshirts,” “jackbooted stormtroopers”—such are the insults typically hurled at conservatives by their liberal opponents. Calling someone a fascist is the fastest way to shut them up, defining their views as beyond the political pale. But who are the real fascists in our midst?

Liberal Fascism offers a startling new perspective on the theories and practices that define fascist politics. Replacing conveniently manufactured myths with surprising and enlightening research, Jonah Goldberg reminds us that the original fascists were really on the left, and that liberals from Woodrow Wilson to FDR to Hillary Clinton have advocated policies and principles remarkably similar to those of Hitler's National Socialism and Mussolini's Fascism.

Contrary to what most people think, the Nazis were ardent socialists (hence the term “National socialism”). They believed in free health care and guaranteed jobs. They confiscated inherited wealth and spent vast sums on public education. They purged the church from public policy, promoted a new form of pagan spirituality, and inserted the authority of the state into every nook and cranny of daily life. The Nazis declared war on smoking, supported abortion, euthanasia, and gun control. They loathed the free market, provided generous pensions for the elderly, and maintained a strict racial quota system in their universities—where campus speech codes were all the rage. The Nazis led the world in organic farming and alternative medicine. Hitler was a strict vegetarian, and Himmler was an animal rights activist.

Do these striking parallels mean that today’s liberals are genocidal maniacs, intent on conquering the world and imposing a new racial order? Not at all. Yet it is hard to deny that modern progressivism and classical fascism shared the same intellectual roots. We often forget, for example, that Mussolini and Hitler had many admirers in the United States. W.E.B. Du Bois was inspired by Hitler's Germany, and Irving Berlin praised Mussolini in song. Many fascist tenets were espoused by American progressives like John Dewey and Woodrow Wilson, and FDR incorporated fascist policies in the New Deal.

Fascism was an international movement that appeared in different forms in different countries, depending on the vagaries of national culture and temperament. In Germany, fascism appeared as genocidal racist nationalism. In America, it took a “friendlier,” more liberal form. The modern heirs of this “friendly fascist” tradition include the New York Times, the Democratic Party, the Ivy League professoriate, and the liberals of Hollywood. The quintessential Liberal Fascist isn't an SS storm trooper; it is a female grade school teacher with an education degree from Brown or Swarthmore.

These assertions may sound strange to modern ears, but that is because we have forgotten what fascism is. In this angry, funny, smart, contentious book, Jonah Goldberg turns our preconceptions inside out and shows us the true meaning of Liberal Fascism.

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posted November 26, 2016 07:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
[b] The Nazis led the world in organic farming and alternative medicine.

I suppose you mean ash is pretty organic, there's Nazi organic farming


Auschwitz gas chamber nailmarks


Dr. Fritz Klein who made the gas chamber selection in Bergen-Belsen, center

Nazi alternative medicine



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1j_7J7ZG28


"Socialist" in "National Socialist" is like "Democratic" in the democratic country you will reincarnate next, Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

You are the first person I heard in my life saying Hitler was a "socialist", and in the meantime I discovered this is a niche US right-wing propaganda, laughable by serious historians/the general public.

In the other meantime, you are making Nazi propaganda on my favorite astrology and spiritual forum/community. You either do your homework on elementary history or shut up on the matter. Thank you.


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@Randall: I know that you don't know anything about Nazism but isn't this going too far?? Are you allowing someone to promote or trivializing Nazism?! Really? Seriously?

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Some people back in the 1930s in Germany also were stupid enough to believe that Nationalsocialists are Socialists and so they voted for Hitler
They were the last steps to making the Holocaust possible

Jwhop , you are one of the most disgusting persons I ever met online. Only paedophiles could beat my dislike for you

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The Nazis led the world in organic farming and alternative medicine. Hitler was a strict vegetarian, and Himmler was an animal rights activist.


Alternative medicine?

Are you referring to Dr. Josef Mengele's (btw he is from the area where i grew up) experiments... like on twins (he was hoping to find out the source of "bad" genes among other things) to protect the Aryan race? Or are you referring to his experiments on children in general in order to extract young and powerful genes?

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...guaranteed jobs. They confiscated inherited wealth and spent vast sums on public education. They purged the church from public policy, promoted a new form of pagan spirituality, and inserted the authority of the state into every nook and cranny of daily life. The Nazis declared war on smoking, supported abortion, euthanasia, and gun control. They loathed the free market, provided generous pensions for the elderly, and maintained a strict racial quota system in their universities—where campus speech codes were all the rage. The Nazis led the world in organic farming and alternative medicine. Hitler was a strict vegetarian, and Himmler was an animal rights activist.

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Why did you insert smileys to your thread? Do you think what the Nazis did is funny?


Well, Politicians always make promises in order to get the people to the point they want them to be. They pretened to promote the things mentioned above but actually there was nearly no inherited wealth confiscated- it was the wealth of the German Jews + of the aristocracy who did oppose them


The euthanasia was just meant for the homosexuals or handicapped (both mentally and physically) people
As a matter of fact all projects they called "euthanasia" consisted the murdering of those people only- since they were a big shame for the perfect Aryan race

These were some of the children who were murdered by the Nazis by calling it "Euthanasia"

Also, they banned the power of the church since the were protective of the Jews, since Jesus himself was a Jew. Many priests and nuns were killed for opposing the Nazis or for hiding Jews.

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Yes, Hitler was Vegetarian and animal loving (see his dog "Blondie") and by all accounts he had always been very nice and kind to his secretaries and drivers.
But by all accounts he loved peeing on Eva Braun while (or instead of) having Sex.
And he is responsible of the death of around 50 million people.
Psychopaths and mass murderers are often described as charming or eloquent, leading to the success to lure their victims into their traps.
Are you pretending to be that stupid or are you really that stupid to believe that a Vegetarian or a person who loves animals must be a good person in heart?

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@Randall: I know that you don't know anything about Nazism but isn't this going too far?? Are you allowing someone to promote or trivializing Nazism?! Really? Seriously?

even if you allow someone to write these horrible things - if so you are a real disappointment - : isn't it liable to prosecution to do that? Doesn't even have the US system a law against that?
In Germany jwhop would be jailed

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posted November 26, 2016 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And Randall:

This is NOT about having another opinion, NOT about the fight between (American) right wings vs left wings or liberals vs. conservatives or whatever.

This is about the notorious FALSE MYTHS and even PROMOTION of Hitler and Nazism.

This is beyond unacceptable. This is an insult for millions of Jews, Gipsies, Homosexuals, handicapped, Opponents, Democrats, Priests, etc. who lost their lives by the Nazis.


(in case you don't believe me or LeeLoo, ask Ceridwen, call Yad Vashem, CNN or BBC or even ask Trump's son in law)

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What disgusting people leftists are. Even when shown the evidence...right out of the subject's mouth...Hitler, that he was a Socialist, they still deny it and try to run from the historical fact that Hitler was one of them.

There's something very wrong with these people but no matter how many times they change their ideological name...now, it's Progressive, they can't disguise the fact they never had an original thought in their lives. All their ideas of government and economics came straight out of the lower orifice of the 5th rate...at best, 5th rate thinker from the 19th Century, Karl Marx.

Now, these loony tunes leftists are trying to reelect the East German Socialist, Angela Merkel who is well on her way to destroying Germany with waves of invading Islamic Fascists and terrorists.

The overriding characteristic of leftist Socialist lunatic Fascists is that they can't stand any examination of their lunatic beliefs. No dissent can be tolerated. Truly contemptible that these Socialist Fascist Progressives have been hiding out under the banner of Liberalism.

It's hysterically funny that these lunatic Socialist Fascists are trying to tell America and Americans how to run their government, their lives and who to vote for.

If these people don't start minding their own business, I'm sure I can point them in the right direction to finding enough problems in their own countries to keep them busy for the rest of their lives.

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What disgusting people leftists are. Even when shown the evidence...right out of the subject's mouth...Hitler, that he was a Socialist, they still deny it and try to run from the historical fact that Hitler was one of them.


subject's mouth? Where are Hitler videos or Goebbels (if you know who he was) or Göring videos or Himmler videos stating they are socialists?!?!
So far you just claimed weird stuff without naming reliable sources, nothing but authors of weird conspiracy theories.

Here is even a video - English subtitles available- where Hitler is rioting against Socialists, like Jewish marxist Fan Minister Rudolf Hilferding, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_B7LJIV4l8


you are one of the must uneducated, unlettered and blinded persons i ever met in my life- right after some ardent Nazis and Islamists i know

so far you haven't proven anything but that you have no clue. so far you only claimed some unlogical stuff, some conspiracy theories and extracts cut out of context, no reliable historians who graduated from reliable universities

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