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juniperb
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posted December 06, 2016 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Except when is is dangerous false news.

It is disturbing when a choice for national security advisor Ret. Army Gen Flynn is a right winger conspriracy theroist who spreads false rumors as truth .

Dangerous when believers indulge to the point of believing them and acts out, with a gun, against false rumors.

Flynn under fire for fake news

a POLITICO review of his Twitter posts. Flynn, who has 106,000 Twitter followers,

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The flak began flying anew after Sunday’s shooting at a Washington pizza restaurant that had been targeted by false, internet-fed rumors accusing it of being the epicenter of a satanic child-trafficking conspiracy involving Clinton and her allies. Flynn had twice used Twitter to promote similar, only slightly less outrageous hoaxes in the past month, including a claim that Clinton’s campaign manager takes part in occult rituals in which bodily fluids are consumed.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/michael-flynn-conspiracy-pizzeria-trump-232227

Which leads his to his son being as uninformed as Dad

Incoming national security adviser's son spreads fake news about D.C. pizza shop

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The son of retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, Donald Trump’s pick for national security adviser, embraced a baseless conspiracy theory about Hillary Clinton on Sunday after a man who claimed to be investigating the hoax fired a rifle inside a pizza parlor in Northwest Washington, D.C., on Sunday.

The man, 28-year-old Edgar Maddison Welch of Salisbury, North Carolina, entered the restaurant, D.C. police said, to “self-investigate 'Pizza Gate' (a fictitious online conspiracy theory)." After firing his gun inside the establishment, he was arrested and charged with assault with a dangerous weapon. No one was injured.


The baseless online conspiracy theory in question, spread by supporters of President-elect Donald Trump, holds that the pizza shop, Comet Ping Pong, is actually a front for a child sex ring led by Clinton, the Democratic nominee.



http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/incoming-national-security-advisers-son-spreads-fake-news-about-dc-pizza-shop-232181

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Randall
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posted December 06, 2016 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone can be fooled. Some of these stories can look genuine.

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juniperb
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posted December 06, 2016 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Out like Flynn.

Trumps team dumped jr ... or so they say.

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posted December 07, 2016 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fake news:
Almost any political story in the NY Times, Washington Compost or story aired on CNN or MSNBC. These are the very biggest purveyors of "Fake News".

Donald Trump has no path to the 270 electoral votes he needs to win the presidential election.

And then, there's this utterly off the wall fake news story from Newsweek.


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posted December 07, 2016 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Or, this nonsense from the Washington Compost.

Washington Post: Trump’s Appointments of Military Officers May Turn U.S. Into Dictatorship

So called "News" that's riddled with political bias, rumor, supposition, innuendo and outright lies...is no "news" at all.

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posted December 07, 2016 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They actually released many thousands of that magazine and had to recall them!

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posted December 07, 2016 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonsai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Honestly? There's a lot of untruths published by both sides. The truth really lies somewhere in between and is up to the individual to cut through the BS, which really isn't that easy. Even the news websites that people online claim to be objective are riddled with heavy bias at first glance. However the Newsweek magazine above is pretty damn embarrassing.

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posted December 10, 2016 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for etherealsaturn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bonsai:
Honestly? There's a lot of untruths published by both sides. The truth really lies somewhere in between and is up to the individual to cut through the BS, which really isn't that easy. Even the news websites that people online claim to be objective are riddled with heavy bias at first glance. However the Newsweek magazine above is pretty damn embarrassing.

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posted December 10, 2016 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
isn`t there a difference between untruths and outright foolish conspiracy theories tho?

A blood drinking cult is not something normal people jump on without a little thinking involved.

IMHO, what it boils down to is bias. If a theory/lie fits ones personal bias , they are quicker to believe and share the rumor.

Seperating bias from truth is not always easy but something we need to strive to do.

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posted December 10, 2016 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonsai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by juniperb:
IMHO, what it boils down to is bias. If a theory/lie fits ones personal bias , they are quicker to believe and share the rumor.

Seperating bias from truth is not always easy but something we need to strive to do.


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posted December 12, 2016 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by juniperb:
isn`t there a difference between untruths and outright foolish conspiracy theories tho?

A blood drinking cult is not something normal people jump on without a little thinking involved.

IMHO, what it boils down to is bias. If a theory/lie fits ones personal bias , they are quicker to believe and share the rumor.

Seperating bias from truth is not always easy but something we need to strive to do.


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posted December 12, 2016 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When Hillary claimed she came under sniper fire on the tarmac in Bosnia, when actually she was gifted flowers by children, what would you classify that as?

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posted December 13, 2016 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for etherealsaturn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
When Hillary claimed she came under sniper fire on the tarmac in Bosnia, when actually she was gifted flowers by children, what would you classify that as?

LOL. This was just a flat out lie, not what's considered "false news".

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posted December 14, 2016 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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juniperb
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posted December 16, 2016 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FB is going to help those who can not help themselves with falling for false news articles.

Since social media is the main culprit in the first place, they are late but better than nothing.

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Facebook will rely primarily on individual users to flag obvious hoaxes on the platform. Though users can currently flag stories by clicking on the upper right corner of the post, the company said it’s experimenting with several methods to make the flagging process easier.

Once posts are flagged as potential fakes, third parties gets involved. Specifically, Facebook is forging a new partnership with Poynter, which since 2015 has mobilized fact-checkers from all over the world under an initiative called the International Fact Checking Code of Principles. Facebook said that based on reports from users as well as “other signals,” which the company did not elaborate on, it will refer suspicious stories to these fact-checking organizations for vetting.

If Poynter’s fact-checkers determine the story is fake, it will be marked as “disputed” on Facebook. The story will still appear on Facebook, but with the “disputed” flag and a link to a corresponding article explaining the reasons it should not be trusted.



http://cbsnews.cbs.com/news/facebook-fake-news-plan-poynter-institute-fact-checking/

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posted December 16, 2016 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, how wonderful. Facebook teaming with the Poynter Institute to fact check stories on Facebook.

Let's see, where oh where have I heard of Poynter before?

Oh right, now I remember! Poynter owns the Tampa Bay Times...formerly the Saint Petersburg Times and runs the FACT-LESS FACT CHECKING organization...PolitiFact. The source of more blithering bullshiiiite posing as FACTS than any other like organization in operation.

Hahaha this is sure to be a thundering success!

Tampa Bay Times buys and folds the Tampa Tribune
Rick Edmonds
May 3, 2016

The Poynter-owned Tampa Bay Times announced Tuesday afternoon that it has acquired The Tampa Tribune, ending a 29-year competitive battle in the bay region and creating the fifth-largest Sunday circulation newspaper in the nation.
http://www.poynter.org/2016/tampa-bay-times-buys-and-folds-the-tampa-tribune/409819/

This so called "fact checking" organization..PolitiFact just oozes political bias.
http://humanevents.com/2012/08/30/politifact-bias-does-the-gop-tell-nine-times-more-lies-than-left-really/

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posted December 16, 2016 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, who's really into "Fake News"?

Who is it that's circulating a totally false meme...posing as "News"?

So, fact check this Der Zuckerburgerfuhrer!

December 16, 2016
Anyone Else Getting Hacked Off about the Russian Hacking Story?
Brian Joondeph

Post-Donald Trump's landslide electoral victory, the media are in overdrive talking about "fake news." What they mean by fake news is anything favorable to Donald Trump – not blatantly false news stories like the Benghazi video, "Hands up don't shoot," "I can't breathe," rape at the University of Virginia, Duke lacrosse team, and so on.

The latest story is that Russia hacked the U.S. presidential election, handing the win to Mr. Trump. The N.Y. Times is all over the story with a headline, "How Russian Cyberpower Invaded the US."

The only thing that has been hacked is honest journalism and reporting. Is anyone else getting hacked off over this continued nonsensical narrative?

What exactly is hacking? The definition is "[t]he practice of modifying or altering computer software and hardware to accomplish a goal that is considered to be outside of the creator's original objective." So how was the election hacked? What specifically did the Russians do, and where is the proof? And where is any evidence that such hacking changed the election outcome?

Foreign governments hacking each other is nothing new. Several years ago, the Russians hacked the White House, but it wasn't news, fake or otherwise, as it didn't serve the media's agenda.

Even election interference (is) has precedence. Just ask President Obama, who spent U.S. taxpayer dollars trying to influence the Israeli election. Any media outrage? Hardly even mentioned.

An election can be hacked only by subverting the voting process or the tallying of the votes. A paper ballot would be tough to hack, short of putting a gun to the voter's head or manually changing his written vote. Machines tallying and reporting the votes could theoretically be hacked, but where is the evidence?

Accusations of electoral fraud are nothing new. They surfaced after Mitt Romney's loss in 2012, but, not surprisingly, the media showed no curiosity or interest in pursuing the story.

If anything, the 2016 results are more likely to have been hacked by the Democrats than the Republicans. Voting machines linked to George Soros were used in 16 states. But that's not the narrative, and the story will therefore be ignored.

The Obama administration put the issue to rest a few weeks ago by reassuring America that the election results "accurately reflect the will of the American people." Yet the onslaught of fake news persists.

Hillary Clinton lost the election simply because voters preferred Donald Trump over her – Trump's vision, his optimism, his likeability, all of which worked against Mrs. Clinton. Nearly 70 percent of Americans believed that the country was heading in the wrong direction. Mrs. Clinton was more of the same, while Trump was the opposite direction. That's not hacking, unless you believe that the election is a response to the past eight years of Obama's epic hack of American greatness and exceptional nature.

The real rigging of this election was by the Democratic Party establishment against Bernie Sanders in favor of Hillary Clinton via superdelegates and leaked debate questions. Was that the Russians, too?

These revelations came via WikiLeaks and included a true hack – not of the election, but of Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta's email account. He fell for a phishing scam, which snagged his email password. It's the same type of scam most of us receive daily in our email inboxes. And then there was Anthony Weiner with a laptop full of damaging emails. Is Anthony part of Putin's scheming?

All of these leaked emails didn't change the election results. Instead, they only embarrassed Podesta, his candidate, and his political party. Podesta's emails simply confirmed what most everyone already knew or suspected about Crooked Hillary.

Julian Assange, founder of WikiLeaks denied that the Russian government was behind the leaked emails. Rather, it was an insider – perhaps a disaffected Democrat campaign operative.

Meanwhile, we are treated to a daily barrage from big media claiming that the election was hacked, based on anonymous sources and thirdhand accounts. Even the myriad U.S. intelligence agencies disagree over who did what.

Most of the country is moving forward after a long and contentious 18-month election cycle – exactly what President Obama and Mrs. Clinton told the nation to do the day after the election. Trump is plowing ahead like a bulldozer, filling his cabinet, announcing his agenda, holding court with former political foes.

The Democrats and their media outlets instead want to move backward, blaming Clinton's predictable election loss on phantom Russian spies and chicanery rather than voters' rejection of their candidate. The Democrats remain in denial over the election and the fact that this year, American voters handed Mrs. Clinton's famous "reset button" to Donald Trump.
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/12/anyone_else_getting_hacked_off_about_the_russian_hacking_story.html

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posted December 16, 2016 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Came across this video.....

(topic) Quantum Soul Note for Dec. 19-25th {2016} ~ "Mercury Retrograde" (Jean Wiley, Professional Astrologer) [14:53] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cYhsgBvAC0

Among other items, she discusses the Electoral College trying to 'decide' the election, ON the day that Mercury turns retro, almost conjunct Pluto Capricorn. December 19, 2016. ... Her thoughts are fascinating. .... We'll see what happens, in January.

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