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Topic: Trump Lashes Out as States Refuse to Hand Over 'Private' Information To Commission In
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juniperb Moderator Posts: 10472 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 02, 2017 02:17 PM
U.S. President Donald Trump lashed out on Twitter as nearly half U.S. states refused to comply with a request for confidential and sensitive voter data from a panel investigating allegations of voter fraud. The Presidential Commission on Voter Integrity sent a letter to all 50 states and Washington D.C. earlier in the week requesting the information and giving states two weeks to comply
*Confidential folks*. States have been asked in the letter from the commission to provide information including "dates of birth, political party (if recorded in your state), last four digits of social security number if available, voter history (elections voted in) from 2006 onward.” The commission has not stated how it plans to use or safeguard the information. Our rights are deterating faster than his tweets post... He can`t get past he LOST the popular vote so this is payback to see who didn`t vote for him. If it wasn`t so sickening it would be funny, crybaby! http://www.newsweek.com/trump-voter-fraud-630922 ------------------ Partial truth~the seeds of wisdom~can be found in many places...The seeds of wisdom are contained in all scriptures ever written… especially in art, music, and poetry and, above all, in Nature.
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 82248 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 02, 2017 04:23 PM
It's public knowledge (except for the last 4 digits of SS#). I can understand why Dems would be so upset. In CA, illegals can get a Driver License and then vote, so that would explain a lot. Dead people have voted all across the country. If the Dems really want to ensure the integrity of our elections, then why do they resist attempts to do so? IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 10293 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 02, 2017 04:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: It's public knowledge (except for the last 4 digits of SS#). I can understand why Dems would be so upset. In CA, illegals can get a Driver License and then vote, so that would explain a lot. Dead people have voted all across the country. If the Dems really want to ensure the integrity of our elections, then why do they resist attempts to do so?
It isn't Dems that are upset. Kasich refused to hand over the information for Ohio. Enough with the smirking, seriously. You aren't above everyone else. IP: Logged |
Node Knowflake Posts: 2760 From: 2,015 mi East of Truth or Consequences NM Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 02, 2017 05:13 PM
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Node Knowflake Posts: 2760 From: 2,015 mi East of Truth or Consequences NM Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 02, 2017 05:16 PM
More succinct: IP: Logged |
Node Knowflake Posts: 2760 From: 2,015 mi East of Truth or Consequences NM Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 02, 2017 05:24 PM
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 82248 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 02, 2017 05:29 PM
Wow, Dems get defensive when their fake voters are in danger of being exposed!IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 10472 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 02, 2017 07:06 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: Wow, Dems get defensive when their fake voters are in danger of being exposed!
I sure didn`t expect any other kind of comment from you. Dissapointed but expected. ------------------ Partial truth~the seeds of wisdom~can be found in many places...The seeds of wisdom are contained in all scriptures ever written… especially in art, music, and poetry and, above all, in Nature.
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 82248 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 02, 2017 07:21 PM
I'm disappointed that you think it's okay for millions of illegals and dead people to vote. IP: Logged |
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 4434 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 02, 2017 07:50 PM
If its public knowledge why does he have to ask? AND your information as usual is skewed. A California license, not being proof of citizenship, will not get you the right to vote. It does however have a picture (unlike a birth certificate) and a great deal of information on it. There is a two week background check before registration is confirmed after applying. IP: Logged |
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 4434 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 02, 2017 07:53 PM
Wow, Trumpets get defensive when their fearless leaders bs is defied!😜IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 82248 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 02, 2017 08:43 PM
An undercover investigator for FOX News showed how easy it is to vote in CA with a driver license. It ain't rocket science.IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 10472 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 02, 2017 09:27 PM
In MI, one has to desiginate a party preference and no cross party voting. Birth date, 4 last digits of ss #`s, city, state and name. This identifies the voter and could target them. This tells the admin who I am, who I voted for and and this is utter BS. You defend such privacy infilteration? Trump must expose those who did not vote for him, not find if anyone who cheated. ------------------ Partial truth~the seeds of wisdom~can be found in many places...The seeds of wisdom are contained in all scriptures ever written… especially in art, music, and poetry and, above all, in Nature.
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 10293 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 02, 2017 10:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: Wow, Dems get defensive when their fake voters are in danger of being exposed!
Expected. Yawning over here. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 82248 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 02, 2017 11:12 PM
Conspiracy theory much?IP: Logged |
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 4434 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 02, 2017 11:17 PM
You can't vote in CA with a drivers license. You have to be on the roll in the polling station and if you present a license it won't get you on. I live and vote there Randall. Show me your clip😎IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 82248 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 02, 2017 11:29 PM
The problem with CA is that there is no separate verification of citizenship when someone registers to vote. You simply check a box that states you are a citizen, and it's not checked against any database, such as immigration records. IP: Logged |
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 4434 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 03, 2017 12:38 AM
There is as i said a background check. Immigrsnts can get licenses but they are diiferent from regular ones and not valid ID for voter registration. In fact they exclude one from voting. Show me your clip. The problem is that one side of this argument claims fake voters, another claims fraudulent machines, and yet another claims voter suppression thru tactics that target those who would vote against the first. Please tell me how any ONE of these sides is going to do a credible job of cleaning it up. And before you say your side are the honest ones, that is not sufficient because even if you don't, others see your bias. I suspect there is some of all the above operating and that in any operation of this size, there always will be. But I would be interested to hear how you explain, with all these MILLIONS of excess votes A) how come the total vote count in November was still only half of eligible voters? and B) if its the Dems who are flooding the process how do they happen to be the great minority in office? Lets try for an impartial and reasonable answer that doesn't rely on the fact that you know what a great guy and genius the Don is. I don't trust any of them and certainly not because they tell me they're straight.
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 82248 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 03, 2017 04:54 AM
Still sifting through results to find the news clip. This explains a lot: http://www.breitbart.com/california/2015/10/12/gov-jerry-brown-signs-bill-allowing-illegal-aliens-vote/ IP: Logged |
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 4434 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 03, 2017 05:45 AM
Trust Breitbart to skew it. Either they jumped to conclusions oor you are being "told what to think"There is a license available to immigrants. Its called an AB60 and it excludes the holder from registering to vote, though a normal license which is given to citizens affords that option. Giving immigrants licenses makes them more accountable and has cut down on uninsured motorists and unfit drivers. It also identifies them as non citizens
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jwhop Knowflake Posts: 9963 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 03, 2017 06:54 AM
Illegal aliens and the dead are important voting blocks for the Socialist democrat party.It's the sole reason Socialist democrats oppose voter ID and cleaning voter rolls of deceased citizens. What are these Socialist democrats trying to hide when they refuse to turn over their rolls of voters in their states? As Randall noted, this is public information, so what are they attempting to hide? IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 10472 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 03, 2017 08:59 AM
quote: As Randall noted, this is public information, so what are they attempting to hide?
The last 4 digits of my SS# are not public info. Randall did note that. ------------------ Partial truth~the seeds of wisdom~can be found in many places...The seeds of wisdom are contained in all scriptures ever written… especially in art, music, and poetry and, above all, in Nature.
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 82248 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 03, 2017 11:02 AM
I can see you didn't read the article. I know all about the AB 60 license. The only difference is two tiny words above Class A. And they're not "can't vote." Only a police officer wouid notice them. Automatic voter registration with license renewals is the issue, thanks to your leader, Comrade Brown of Kalifornia.IP: Logged |
Node Knowflake Posts: 2760 From: 2,015 mi East of Truth or Consequences NM Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 03, 2017 11:41 AM
At the heart of this issue is the repeated unsubstantiated claim of voter fraud. This issue has been covered here over the years. Repubs refuse to listen to the facts. Trump refuses to accept those facts.I am sick and tired of this false claim. The Russians had more success with tampering with the last election. They will continue to do it! Failure to resolve this is pretty darned important. Redistricting Gerrymandering Disenfranchisement We don't know exactly what Trump wants to do with this info. Regardless it is illegal in many of the states to give it! IP: Logged |
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 4434 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 03, 2017 01:22 PM
I read the article Randall. The word COULD implies supposition, for starters. A heads up to the reader that facts arent available to back this up. Secondly the front of a license is the tip of the iceberg. There's a strip full of info on the back. An AB60 entered into the computerized system tells that system this person is not a citizen ie not eligible to vote. The bill specifies that these licenses are not eligible for voter reg. As for your namecalling Brown it shows a distinct lack of factual knowledge about who he is and what he does, a willingness to paint hin as a two dimensional creature ..and an affinity for the propaganda of your chosen news sources. I see you would love to think California is socialist but despite some strict regulations and high taxes (and wages) its a favourite residence for many very wealthy capitalists. Go figure Theres a lot aboutCA i dont like but im hete and youre there reading about in Breitbart.. WH News who have a vested interest in demonizing it. Imagine me telling you i know more about Georgia than you do.. for instance that its a stateful of Crackers and KKK.. despite you giving me facts to the contrary .. IP: Logged |