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charlie
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posted August 22, 2014 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does it come out then? The REAL truth as it lie deep down in our hearts?

I used to drink a lot, A LOT, but I am having a hard time recalling whether I was more truthful....perhaps more forward with same truth....but I didn't say things that wouldn't have come out under a sober state.

I don't know What you say?

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athenegoddess
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posted August 22, 2014 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It makes you not so intelligent, so I say no the truth doesn't come out.

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Dancing Maenad
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posted August 22, 2014 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All sorts of rubbish come out, true or untrue. I might have even lied more. "I miss you" instead of "I am bored and I don't want to be alone tonight". Like I said, rubbish.

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athenegoddess
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posted August 22, 2014 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
All sorts of rubbish come out, true or untrue. I might have even lied more. "I miss you" instead of "I am bored and I don't want to be alone tonight". Like I said, rubbish.



Lol. Very true.

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PixieJane
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posted August 23, 2014 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No.

But I believe some people drink so they can engage in behaviors (from violence to sexual) that they'd otherwise feel horrible about. Then they can blame it on the alcohol (not sure why this works for them since if they're aware of how stupid or volatile it makes them then they should obviously stay away from it). It gets especially absurd when they're in the habit of drinking yet only one beer makes them "change" so drastically (that is they stop repressing their impulses now that they have their "alcohol pass").

Heck, even those who become "recovering alcoholics" can turn into "dry drunks," which is to say they still act the way they did when drunk, they just can't blame the booze anymore (well actually they do, but now it's "the disease of alcoholism" so that blame for behavior they're ashamed of or socially unacceptable still goes to the drink rather than that's who they actually are deep down). Some describe it as grieving the loss of the bottle, but given that they tend to act as they did when they drank (that is, getting off the booze didn't change their behavior) AND that many never "get over the grieving process" I'm not inclined to buy that either...it's just that's who they are, and the alcohol (or alcoholism) is the excuse, not the cause.

In that sense, the alcohol itself allows them to lie to themselves to say they're not really so bad, it's the alcohol that "puts it in them" rather than what's already in them all the time. Obviously, I don't buy that for a second. Alcohol makes people a lot dumber (such as thinking they can drive, even after they've dropped their keys 3 times), not turn them into someone they're not.

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MoonWitch
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posted August 23, 2014 02:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonWitch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A couple drinks do help me overcome almost chronic shyness.

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Ellynlvx
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posted August 23, 2014 02:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I used to Love drinking all night by myself and listening to Music and Writing.

I am very shy too, it helped to alleviate the inhibitions.

But that Venus/Pluto.

I just never knew when to quit.

My Husband used to Love it, though.

We'd drink Tequila and Howl at the Moon...

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aquaguy91
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posted August 23, 2014 07:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been so drunk that I couldn't stand up and I never did or said anything that was out of character for me. Personally I don't take people seriously when they blame their rash actions and words on drunkenness. Like I said I have been really really drunk and I never felt the urge to have sex with someone I wouldn't otherwise have sex with or say something that I wouldn't normally say, I think all that crap is just a convenient excuse.

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Ami Anne
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posted August 23, 2014 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have never been drunk. I have a phobia of throwing up

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Doux Rêve
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posted August 23, 2014 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My subconscious basically becomes conscious more easily. Is it truth? Probably. Just not my everyday 'truth'.

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MoonWitch
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posted August 23, 2014 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonWitch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was slipped a date-rape drug in my drink once. Now THAT is messed up.

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KarkaQueen
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posted August 23, 2014 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
My subconscious basically becomes conscious more easily. Is it truth? Probably. Just not my everyday 'truth'.

For me my subconscious becomes blocked and I start spewing crap.

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T
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posted August 23, 2014 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
read this earlier:

His actions spoke louder than drunken words ever could.

Sounds like they had a lovely marriage.

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Padre35
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posted August 27, 2014 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

This is one of those situations that is individualized for everyone.

To go through the litany of vino en veratas would be uhm..extensive

To reduce it, yes and no, for example someone really may be drinking to "have fun" others b/c it is expected (goes with weed as well somtimes) others to create an excuse

Are they telling the truth?

Sort of, and this is important, meaning it depends on the depth of the "truth" they are telling

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Randall
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posted September 21, 2014 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alcohol removes filters.

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MillyX
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posted September 21, 2014 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MillyX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Alcohol removes filters.

Agreed. The time I got really, really drunk, my walls came down and started crying. I expressed myself on issues that I would normally shy away from in real life. I notably talked about how lonely and sad I was on the inside, how unhappy I was with my life. I also grieved about my dad. Usually, when I'm sober, I just pretend that my father's death does not faze me and I pretend that I don't need anyone. The deep issues come out when I have had ALOT to drink. I usually avoid drinking heavily.

However, there were times where I was drunk but not too drunk. I said I love you to a guy once, and I didn't really mean it. Depends how drunk I am.

Every drink experience is different though. I mostly feel happy/giggle or sleepy/relaxed when I drink. I try not to drink too much though, I don't want to be an alcoholic...Pisces moon is an escapist though and I love being in other 'states'. Whether it be through alcohol, weed or sex. But moderation is key.

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