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Koniucha
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posted September 04, 2017 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Koniucha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I more just want to write this down. Maybe it will help me feel better.

I feel this deep rage towards men and I am not sure how to deal with it. When I look back at the men I have dated, they were all no good. Either bums, abusers, or just unreliable. My daughter has been hurt by one. I have a neighbor across the street that is not leaving me alone despite a trespassing order. The only one around me that I feel good about is my brother. He has always been my rock.

I have removed anyone toxic from my life recently. I had a 'friend' that had a girlfriend living at his house but kept wanting to hang out with me and told me he always thinks about me. I told him to kindly go away and have ceased any contact. I just don't understand why these types keep trying to come around. I feel disgust towards them. I have Mars in the 12th conjunct Neptune and an unaspected sun, if that matters.

Anyways, thanks for listening

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Voix_de_la_Mer
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posted September 04, 2017 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Konichua,

I am sorry to hear of the negative experiences you have had with men. I think your anger is understandable given what you have went through.

Many men have also hurt me deeply in life and I carried a lot of anger for a while also. It is difficult when you are angry to trust that it could be different. You do not wish to make yourself vulnerable to being hurt again. Sometimes we can even disqualify those that may have been lovely through our fear of being hurt. Even though the fear has its root in real life experiences, it does not mean it will always be this way.

I cannot really advise you at all, and perhaps you just wanted to validate your feelings anyway, but I can empathise with your anger. It really is a man's world, even now. There are so many possible reasons for your experiences, but I don't think this sexualised society helps. It is a difficult time to be an authentic woman, no matter what the 'culture' and media wish us to believe.

If you find this is a pattern, maybe it would help if you focus completely on yourself for a while, turn your wishes into reality as they pertain only to your destiny as an individual, you know? (if you haven't already). Sometimes a de-focus from the problem is more helpful than analysis.

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teasel
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posted September 04, 2017 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can relate.

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Ami Anne
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posted September 05, 2017 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know this is not an astrology discussion but I think the chart shows us our struggles. Do you have hard Pluto/Sun aspects?

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Koniucha
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posted September 05, 2017 08:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Koniucha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
Dear Konichua,

I am sorry to hear of the negative experiences you have had with men. I think your anger is understandable given what you have went through.

Many men have also hurt me deeply in life and I carried a lot of anger for a while also. It is difficult when you are angry to trust that it could be different. You do not wish to make yourself vulnerable to being hurt again. Sometimes we can even disqualify those that may have been lovely through our fear of being hurt. Even though the fear has its root in real life experiences, it does not mean it will always be this way.

I cannot really advise you at all, and perhaps you just wanted to validate your feelings anyway, but I can empathise with your anger. It really is a man's world, even now. There are so many possible reasons for your experiences, but I don't think this sexualised society helps. It is a difficult time to be an authentic woman, no matter what the 'culture' and media wish us to believe.

If you find this is a pattern, maybe it would help if you focus completely on yourself for a while, turn your wishes into reality as they pertain only to your destiny as an individual, you know? (if you haven't already). Sometimes a de-focus from the problem is more helpful than analysis.


Thank you Voix.

I really don't like to feel like this, but it is just how I feel for now. And I know that this is not conducive to 'finding someone good', but I really just don't care right now. I did recently join a women's organization too, just because I have just felt so strongly about women's issues too. I want to hopefully help make the future better for my daughter and women.

I have been focusing on myself and my daughter. I have also learned reiki recently, so hopefully that can help me heal also.

Talking about it helps a a lot

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Koniucha
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posted September 05, 2017 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Koniucha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
I can relate.

I am glad I am not alone with these feelings

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Koniucha
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posted September 05, 2017 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Koniucha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I know this is not an astrology discussion but I think the chart shows us our struggles. Do you have hard Pluto/Sun aspects?



I have an unaspected sun and Moon square Pluto.

Also Mars in the 12th, conjunct Neptune

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Randall
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posted September 06, 2017 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Sagical
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posted September 06, 2017 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sagical     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe this is a Neptune thing..... blind about men. Neptune puts veils on things.

Neptune is one of my most hated planets.... I have Venus in Pisces square Jupiter and Neptune Conj.

I have a very long history of tragic and horrific relationships. Am I bitter? No. Do I have a lot of rage? No. With your mars, yes I can see why.

If one has Neptune in the chart like that....it could attract men that are bad for you..... the trick is to soul search.... but all that comes up is that maybe bad choices about the men you welcomed in your life. Maybe you're the warm and welcoming type..... highly accepting and loves people..... though I don't know you and don't know your chart much.....

If I had anything sage to offer.... it would be to keep yourself safe and protect your wellbeing. Learn about what the red flags are and don't be afraid to ditch the jerk and walk away. Life is too short to be going through things like this. So red lags and warning signs..... above all listen to your gut.... things change if you go inside and watch out for number one (You).

About the anger and rage.... it might subside and could be there for a while. It's okay not to forgive.... process though the emotions and somewhere there is a little treasure of knowledge and a lesson learned. (My dad told me a long time ago that relationships are learning experiences.)

Write a list if what you want and need in a relationship.... describe your ideal man in great detail and settle for nothing.... if you one day want to take that adventure.... hope this helps

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Koniucha
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posted September 07, 2017 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Koniucha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sagical:
Maybe this is a Neptune thing..... blind about men. Neptune puts veils on things.

Neptune is one of my most hated planets.... I have Venus in Pisces square Jupiter and Neptune Conj.

I have a very long history of tragic and horrific relationships. Am I bitter? No. Do I have a lot of rage? No. With your mars, yes I can see why.

If one has Neptune in the chart like that....it could attract men that are bad for you..... the trick is to soul search.... but all that comes up is that maybe bad choices about the men you welcomed in your life. Maybe you're the warm and welcoming type..... highly accepting and loves people..... though I don't know you and don't know your chart much.....

If I had anything sage to offer.... it would be to keep yourself safe and protect your wellbeing. Learn about what the red flags are and don't be afraid to ditch the jerk and walk away. Life is too short to be going through things like this. So red lags and warning signs..... above all listen to your gut.... things change if you go inside and watch out for number one (You).

About the anger and rage.... it might subside and could be there for a while. It's okay not to forgive.... process though the emotions and somewhere there is a little treasure of knowledge and a lesson learned. (My dad told me a long time ago that relationships are learning experiences.)

Write a list if what you want and need in a relationship.... describe your ideal man in great detail and settle for nothing.... if you one day want to take that adventure.... hope this helps


Thank you so much! That made me cry. I do have a lot of Neptune. I also have Venus square Neptune, although it is 9 degrees. And Neptune conjunct ASC. Ugh

I will write down what I would like. I like that idea

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Sagical
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posted September 07, 2017 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sagical     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Koniucha:
Thank you so much! That made me cry. I do have a lot of Neptune. I also have Venus square Neptune, although it is 9 degrees. And Neptune conjunct ASC. Ugh

I will write down what I would like. I like that idea


There you go Venus square Neptune! You're not alone in that club. You're very welcome.

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colorful butterfly
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posted October 21, 2017 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for colorful butterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have venus conjunct neptune, it makes one see what they want to see and when the real person or the rose colored glasses come off your crushed because you believe the best or see the best in everyone.

I think it just means to understand toxic relationships and toxic people. No one is perfect yet also learning what is a deal breaker vs boundaries. Very important to set healthy boundaries and rules.

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