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ail221
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posted October 21, 2012 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Recently I found these asteroids relating to Ancient Egyptian, primarily past pharaohs and I am wondering how they work for other people. Natal aspects and synastry aspects.

Female counterparts:

216 Kleopatra
3199 Nefertiti
2436 Hatshephet- pharoah/queen married to Thutmosis/tuthmosis
1068 Nofretete -named after Nefertiti, wife of the Egyptian pharaoh Amenhotep IV.

Males:
4415 Echnaton (Akhenaten) pharoah, son of Amenotep- Lover Nefertiti
4416 Ramses, pharoah- lover- Nefertari
2435 Horemheb-the last Pharaoh of the 18th Dynasty- lovers Amenia, Mutnedjmet
3362- Khufu - egyptian god-king khufu with a greek name Cheops a pharaoh of the 29th century builder of the largest of the great pyramids giza
4161- Amasis- named after the egyptian phraroah Amasis 570-bc526, introduced the demotic characters for hierogyphs
4412- Chephren- pharaoh of the old egyptian kingdom about 2500 bc and he built the second largest pyramid ofnear giza
4413- Mycerinos- pharaoh of the old egyptian kingdom fourth dynasty. Reigned about 2500 bc build the third largest pyramid near giza, mycerinos is the greek name for the egyptian pharaoh Menkaure(4568)
4568- Menkaure- son of Chephren, reigned for 18 years built the third and smallest of the three pyramids of giza
4414- Sesostris- the name of the three pharaoh of the old kingdoms 12th dynasty reigned about 1900 bc high points of egyptian architecture with the building karnak and heliopolis.
4906- Seneferu (also written as Snefru) the first king of the 4th dynasty built two pyramids near Daschur
5010 Amenemhet- named after the egyptian pharoah amenemhet III 1844-1797 BC son of sesostris III built the temple Herodotus(3092) and called "labyrinth"
4846-Tuthmosis
18458 Caesar- Julius Caesar companion of Kleopatra
(12580) Antonini- Antony/romantic counter part Kleopatra
4847 Amenehotep
4848 Tutenchamun

If you going to use synastry instead of natal stick with:
Tight orbs preferred 2-3 orbs max Conjunctions, oppositions, trines, sextiles, squares and even in-conjunctions unless you can inter-connect with another object within 2 orbs.
Then refer to Draco charts - stick to tighter orbs 2 orbs and under for eliminating the fluff

Karma(3811), spirit(37452), aura(1488), reiki(5239), aeternaties- means eternity (446), (1585) Union ,(5264) Telephus (OPTIONAL) (6583) Destinn, and 2060 Chiron

Then add a location:
(1198)Atlantis *preferred could be a spiritual connection
19913 Aigyptios
55555 DNA
5249 Giza
896 Sphinx
13096 Tigris
13963 Euphrates

If your using synastry couples:

Hatshephet-Thutmosis/Tutenchumn
Nefertiti/Nofretete---Amenehotep/Amenemhet/Echnaton/Ramses
Kleopatra-Caesar/antoni

Realistically there were hundreds of Nefertiti's, Nofretete's and Hatshephet's so they may be interchangeable with the pharaohs.

Natal charts & Synastry: Look for Location + Karma, saturn, chiron, spirit tight orbs 2 orbs and under . ASPECTS to NN and SN

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posted October 22, 2012 01:33 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about Thutmosis?
I think ther eis an asteroid.

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oh I see, you mentioned him.

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posted October 22, 2012 01:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey thanks, i ll have fun going nuts with this post tomorrow bc im off work

3811,37452,1488,5239,446,1585,5264,6583,1198
^for me and whoever to use to copy and paste later

(i just used the ones i listed for now)
noteworthy conjunctions with new boy
0-1 degrees
his aeternity cancer 21.38
my telephus 21.58

1-2 degrees
his spirit - scorp 19.44
my reiki - 20.54

2-3 degrees
my destinn - virgo 1.53
his union - virgo 3.54
my aeternity - gemini 12.58
his atlantis - gemini 15.19

3-3.5 degrees (yeah, i’ll stop at 3.5)
my aura - scorp 24.05
his karma - scorp 27.24

ps i know aeternity isn't the name of the asteroid but it was so much easier for me to remember it like that

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posted October 22, 2012 02:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
noteworthy conjunctions with the former future mr. peachbeigeblue
(previously known as the one that got away)

his aura - virgo 26.06
my karma - 24.29

(yeah that’s all without looking at anything besides to conjunctions between these asteroids - not looking at other hard aspects/planets for either guy.. maybe i'll do that when im bored)

that's an awful lot of conjunctions in synastry with new boy though, right? right?

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posted October 22, 2012 02:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i don't even know if i did this right.

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posted October 22, 2012 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I ended up using the egyptian gods in mine some other spiritual objects and fixed stars IQ mentioned in his starseed thread so to be fair: but stick with only egyptian asteroids cultural wise and spiritual asteroids

42 Isis
1923 Osiris
4257 Ubasti
1924 Horus
2340 Hathor
1912 Anubis
5381 Sekhmet
287 Nephthys
5011 Ptah
1813 Imhotep
2062 Aten
136818 Selqet
2100 Ra-Shalom
3554 Amun- King of Gods
161 Athor/named after hathor
99942 Apophis -Apophis is the Greek name of an enemy of the Ancient Egyptian sun-god Ra
1122 Neith- the Egyptian goddess of Libyan origin, Neith, goddess of the hunt and of war, believed to be the mother of the Sun. Her lover Khnum the third aspect of Ra.

101955 Bennu ancient Egyptian deity linked with the sun, creation, and rebirth. It may have been the inspiration for the phoenix in Greek mythology.
376 Geometria-Egyptians and geometry go hand and hand
2365 Interkosmos
3561 Devine
1252 Celestia
11911 Angel
1930 Lucifer
5264 Telephus
9770 Discovery
390 Alma
2791 Paradise
1282 Utopia
92891 Bless

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posted October 22, 2012 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I ended up going in this crazy semi-circle around:

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posted October 22, 2012 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by peachbeigeblue:
noteworthy conjunctions with the former future mr. peachbeigeblue
(previously known as the one that got away)

his aura - virgo 26.06
my karma - 24.29

(yeah that’s all without looking at anything besides to conjunctions between these asteroids - not looking at other hard aspects/planets for either guy.. maybe i'll do that when im bored)

that's an awful lot of conjunctions in synastry with new boy though, right? right?



Add A couple ex. Kleopatra/caesar and look for a conjunction. and a connection to a spiritual object ex. aura and then a location ex. atlantis or tigris
if you can't get a conjunction or opposition up to 3 orbs, use a trine/sextile/inconjunction 2 orbs or under

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posted October 22, 2012 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Keela     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you forgot 4847 Amenhotep?

It gets difficult to tell where to start or stop with mine in any case.


28 Leo Tutenchamun 6' conj. Sun.
25 Sco Hatshepsut under 1 conj. NN.
5 Sco Tuthmosis conj. DNA-Iris-Quaoar-Healy-Descartes-Bosse-Cesaro-Rubicon.

5 Tau Ra-Shalom + Sumeria.
4 Sco Selqet-Dodo-Smiley.


1 Sco Amenhotep conj. Kama-Union-Samarkand-Drabble-etc. The Antiscia heads opposite my Sun so it's a bit of a vital line to me in synastry so far.

Square 0 Leo Sphinx-Nyx + 0 Aqu R Kleopatra.
Also square 1 Leo Ptah conj. Juno-Selene-etc.


2 Lib Ubasti conj. my IC + Hannibal-Elias + more.

6 Lib Sekhmet conj. Pluto (under 1 deg).
8 Lib Khufu under 30' conj. Pluto.
28 Lib Athor conj. Babylon + more.

16 Gem 50' Aigyptios.
18 Gem Giza opp. Vertex 19 Sag.
17 Sag 58' Amasis.

23 Gem Aten.
26 Gem Horus conj. Artemis-Moriarty.
27 Gem Echnaten
24 Sag Angel-Buda-French-Prey-Seaborg +
26 Sag Galactic Centre.

Drac. Echnaten is conj. Amenhotep, and the two connect in names historically as well from what I recall. The same thing for me?


14 Can 38' Amenemhet.
16 Can Neith conj. Alma-Lucifer and more.
29 Can Apophis (conj. Sphinx)


Euphrates 12 Leo 24'.
11 Leo Hathor
square 11 Sco Ramses
squ 12 Aqu 01' Nofretete.

16 Leo Imhotep conj. Madreteresa.
Menkaure 24 Leo 38'.
26 Leo Karma.

11 Vir 39' Amun conj. 10 Vir 37' Destinn.
26 Vir 52' Horemheb conj. 27's Samadhi.

Tigris 7 Aqu 22' R (under 30' opp. ASC)

Mesopotamia-Mary 15 Sag (near Valentine + the following).


I mean, what do you want first? It's obvious that Egyptian or other ancient time things and locations vibe strongly with me, but what they'd actually MEAN is up for discussion still.

As for Isis and Osiris, I have Isis 22 Tau conj. TARDIS, Pan, Dynamocamp and more. The Antiscia should be under a degree conj. my ASC. TARDIS means "Time And Relative Dimensions In Space" from what I recall of my Doctor Who episodes. It's that time machine of his that the Doctor uses to travel around in space, time and sometimes even other dimensions. I think I'm well set there, whatever the actual meaning.


17 Pis Osiris is conj. Arosa, so... My Osiris has arisen, or will arise yet?
16 Pis Amor
17 Vir Mercury + more.


The Sabian for 13 Sagittarius is something like the Great Pyramid and the Sphinx, so if that ties to ancient Egypt, things there may also be of relevance.

My Draconic Aeternitas + a load of other Dr. asteroids are also at the degree. Natally I have another huge stellium thing going on there with Helio (Heliopolis?), Nocturna (day and night?), Salvia, Medea (healing or witchery?), Penelope, Loreley, Llull, Kumeta and probably more I'm forgetting. Valentine-Delmarys is a degree over on the 14's side.

"Salvia derives from the Latin salvere ("to feel well and healthy, health, heal"), the verb related to salus (health, well-being, prosperity or salvation); referring to the herb's healing properties."

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posted October 22, 2012 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am going to really dig in. But later.

For now i just might ask - what would you think of synastrical conjunction of Atlantis with Chiron - 4 minutes orb. What i might think of - the interplay of these two might have begun in Atlantis, where the Chiron person was healing the Atlantis person's wounds in some way? Or the other way around?

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posted October 22, 2012 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok...

From what i see with a first portion of asteroids, i check it with a person that might be my soulmate - in a non-romantical way, my close friend. The Angel-guy, if you remember.

I actually think he might be from my soul family. Look -

My DNA Virgo 3.34'54
His Atlantis Virgo 3.29'26


His DNA Leo 13.16'21
My Moon Leo 13.21'42
My Giza Aquarius 12.35'03

BTW, it's so weird that his Draconic Sun is exactly conjunct my Natal Sun!

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posted October 22, 2012 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aeline:
I am going to really dig in. But later.

For now i just might ask - what would you think of synastrical conjunction of Atlantis with Chiron - 4 minutes orb. What i might think of - the interplay of these two might have begun in Atlantis, where the Chiron person was healing the Atlantis person's wounds in some way? Or the other way around?


If the conjunction is under 1 degree it should be significant especially if there's a equally powerful connection in your draco chart. Chiron is that weird double edge sword it could mean healing or a wound that wasn't healed because of separation.

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posted October 22, 2012 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ail221:
If the conjunction is under 1 degree it should be significant especially if there's a equally powerful connection in your draco chart. Chiron is that weird double edge sword it could mean healing or a wound that wasn't healed because of separation.

Thanks, presumably the second of these scenarios. It still hurts. and the story is the same.

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posted October 22, 2012 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, so i did something with all these mentioned asteroids with that Angel-guy. I counted only conjunctions within 1 degree or a little higher, otherwise it would be too much to bear.

So:

My DNA Virgo 3°34
His Atlantis Virgo 3°29

My Moon Leo 13°21
My Mycerinos Leo 13°26
My Eros Leo 12°28
My Parvati Leo 14°16
My Hekate Leo 11°54
My Orcus Leo 12°31
His DNA Leo 13°56
His Amor Leo 12°23

My Atlantis Virgo 23°08
My Echnaton Virgo 21°34
His Mercury Virgo 21°37

My Kleopatra Cancer 22°45
My Nefertiti Cancer 22°06
His Chiron Cancer 22°47

My Chephren Virgo 9°46
His Sesostris Virgo 9°12

My Seneferu Leo 23°30
His Echnaton Leo 23°06

My Neptune Cappy 11°54
My discovery Cappy 11°15
His Imhotep Cappy 11°39


My Bless Aries 10°17
His Paradize Aries 9°56

My ASC Virgo 12°49
His Angel Virgo 13°18
His Hypnos Virgo 12°41
His Agapenor Virgo 11°29
His Aphrodite Virgo 14°40
His Bacchus Virgo 13°41

My SN Leo 4°21
His Moon Leo 4°44
His Venus Leo 6°04
His Jupiter Leo 0°07


The last ones are just for the record. :d


So, all in all, i guess, Egyptian theme is very prominent in here. Hm... Greek theme was not AS dominant. I guess it all started in Atlantis?! I'll definitely have to see those asteroids in depth, based on their names and origins.

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posted October 22, 2012 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Synastry

Me to him- natal

Nofretete conjunct conjunct Amenhotep (Too wide though)
Nofretete square mars exact
Nofretete conjunct caesar (couple) exact
Nefertiti conjunct Echnaton (couple) exact
My Tigris/sphinx/Nefertiti sextile Sun exact, mercury 1 orb, and venus slightly under (>2) orbs
Sphinx oppose his briede exact and sextile (>1) orb tigris

Ptah Sextile Ubasti exact
Ubasti sextile Mars 1 orb
Sekhmet- Trine Sun 1 orb, and mercury 3 orbs
Sekhmet-opposite Ptah 1 orb (Couple) and Echnaton/Briede 3 orbs

Amenhotep trine Ubasti exact and Ramses 3 orbs
Kleopatra trine Sun exact, mercury 1 orb, and venus 3 orbs
Kleopatra trine Echnaton/Briede exact

Asc trine Sekhmet 1 orb, conjunct kleopatra 1 orb,
Amenenhet sextile Nefertiti/Tigris/sphinx/ exact

Him to I

Nofretete/Soma sextile neptune (>1) orb
Horemheb/Nefertiti/Isis opposite Venus exact
Horemheb/Nefertiti/Isis sextile vertex exact
Sekhmet/Destinn conjunct NN (too wide)
Kleopatra/BML conjunct ASC and moon
Ramses/Euphrates/Devine trine sun exact
Ramses/Euphrates/Devine square Venus
Amenhotep sextile mars
Caesar trine venus orbs(>3) and sextile mars 2 orbs
His king conjunct my mars (>1) orbs
His queen trine my sun (>2) orbs

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posted October 22, 2012 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From what I read in the archived threads either Atlantis existed first or during the time of Ancient Egypt and then when Atlantis sunk some Atlanteans escaped to different regions of the world one of them being Egypt.

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posted October 22, 2012 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have atlantis and kleopatra conjunct my ascendant

my asc - scorpio - 12.31
my psyche - scorpio 13.17
my atlantis - scorpio 14.07
my kleopatra - scorpio 14.24

when i was a child i always LOVED being cleopatra for halloween haha

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posted October 22, 2012 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by peachbeigeblue:
i have atlantis and kleopatra conjunct my ascendant

my asc - scorpio - 12.31
my psyche - scorpio 13.17
my atlantis - scorpio 14.07
my kleopatra - scorpio 14.24

when i was a child i always LOVED being cleopatra for halloween haha


Looks like a atlantean clue

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posted October 23, 2012 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dr Caesar in leo 4°21'43 conjunct natal DNA in Leo
Dr DNA in virgo 23°45'19 conjunct natal Ptah in virgo 21° 0'22
Dr Venus conjunct Natal Atlantis (1 orb)
Dr Pallas conjunct Natal Atlantis (5orbs) too wide probably
Dr Atlantis conjunct Natal Sphinx (1orb)
Natal Nefertiti conjunct DR Giza 0 orbs
Dr Isis conjunct Natal asc 0 degrees and natal moon 3 orbs
natal Atlantis square neptune 2 orbs

Dr Parvati in virgo 0° 6'21 conjunct natal Regulus conjunct Aigyptios at Virgo 0'8 degrees conjunct Hypnos in virgo 1°15'49
Dr Caesar/Philosophia opposite natal NN/mc
Dr Kleopatra/Philosophia conjunct Natal SN
Dr.Horemheb conjunct natal Mercury in leo
Dr Kaali/Ramses/Ra-Shalom conjunct Natal Vertex
Dr Selqet conjunct natal Sun in Cancer
Dr Anubis in Gemini conjunct natal Venus in Gemini
Dr Isis/Unitas in Taurus conjunct natal Asc
Dr Nefertiti in Gemini 8'30 degrees conjunct Aldebaran
Dr Sphinx in Sag 9'1 degrees conjunct Antares

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posted April 21, 2014 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 21, 2014 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Queen Salome     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alert!

Nefertiti/Nofretete was NOT partner to Ramses. His wife was Nefertari, another queen.
And thank you for all this asteroids.

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Great list Ail for anyone who wants to delve into this topic.

The thing is, given that most people have been through dozens if not hundreds of lives, it is very likely that one or more of these could have been royal. Just as many of us have lived in ancient Egypt. And what does it matter anyway? Is a royal person any more worthy than one who isn't? Aren't we all souls that have emerged from the same source? Perhaps as a royal one acquired skills on how to look imperious and commanding . Or developed a sense of social responsibility (if lucky).

I must admit to being completely unimpressed by royalty.

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posted April 21, 2014 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am aware of that Queen Salome I mention it next to Ramses name but some asteroids are not name explicitly after each and every spouse of the pharoahs. In some cases the pharoah had hundreds of wives so were working with what we've got.

Astro keen this thread isnt explicitly about finding a royal connection rather putting together the pieces towards why I had a interest in Egypt and whether those feelings are attached to something more substantial plus there was someone whom I felt I shared multiple lifetimes with I.e. the pairings.

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