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Astro keen
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posted January 06, 2015 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is an investigation to see if Angel asteroids (as well as other good asteroids) are prominent in the charts of fighters for justice and equality. Basically, revolutionaries either in their ideas or deeds, who may have changed the course of history. This includes political activists, freedom fighters, and economists.

I'll use DOBs provided on Astro.com and highlight a few noteworthy aspects for each.

These are the asteroids I intend to use in the first instance:

Angel 11911
Angelica 965
Gabriella 355
Raphela 708
Michel 1348
Oriola 701
Saint Michel 9395
Soulie 13226
DNA 55555
Cydonia 1106
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11911, 965,355,708,1348,701, 9395, 13226, 55555, 1106

Logos 58534
Horus 1924
Knight 29391
Wisdom 3402
Spirit 37452
Aura 1488
Psyche 16
Alma 390

58534, 1924, 29391, 3402, 37452, 1488, 16, 390

Will try and see interconnections with these as well as fixed stars that denote angels. Suggestions and contributions welcomed.

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posted January 06, 2015 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 06, 2015 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very interesting AstroKeen!

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I found a link that has some great info.....

"According to Doreen Virtue:
The Knights Paladin is an Earth angel realm that represents the protective side of angels. They are fascinated with knights, armor, the Round Table and Arthurian legend and often work in the armed services or police. They make good activists.
All that is definitely me. I grew up very interested in Knights,Arthurian Legends,The Round Table,Swords,Armor,Chivalry. My stepfather even gave me a sword/scabbard,breastplate,helmet,shield toy set for my 10th birthday because of my interests. I even have Arthurian Legend Tarot Deck. I was in the US Navy too,and so I was in the Armed Forces.
I am a neurodiversity advocate/activist.

Asteroids pertaining to angel
Angel - angel
Angelina - little angel
Angelica - angelic
Fay - fay,fairy,otherworldly

Asteroids pertaining to knights:
Knight - knight
Whiteknight - white knight
Lancelot - Knight of the Round Table, foster son of the fay Lady of the Lake, son of King Ban and Elaine
Galahad - Knight of the Round Table, son of Lancelot and Elaine, the Hero of the Holy Grail
Arthur - King of Britain, Round Table, son of King Uther Pendragon and Igraine
Gawain - Knight of the Round Table, nephew of Arthur, son of King Lot and Morgause
Parsifal - Knight of the Round Table, son of King Pellinor, achieved the Holy Grail
Tristan - Knight of the Round Table, son of King Melodias, lover of Isolda
Camelot - home of King Arthur and where Round Table was held
Excalibur - sword of King Arthur, given to him by fay Lady of the Lake

Asteroids - only ptolemaic aspects within 3 degrees


Heliocentric Asteroids - conjunction within 1 degree
Heliocentric Asteroid Nodes - only ptolemaic aspects within 1 degree
Geocentric Asteroid Nodes - only ptolemaic aspects within 1 degree

Robert Blaschke (founder of Earthwalk Astrology School)
looked at conjunctions:
Heliocentric to Geocentric
Sidereal to Tropical
Draconic to Tropical
within 1 degree orb


Heliocentric - Christ Consciousness
Sidereal - Completion of Karma
Tropical - Present Incarnation
Draconic - Ongoing Soul Contract

Helio N - Heliocentric Nodes
Geo NN - Geocentric North Node
Geo SN - Geocentric South Node"


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posted January 06, 2015 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Camelot 9500
Merlin 2598
Excalibur 9499
Galahad 2082
Guinevere 2483
Lancelot 2041
Isolda 211
Tristan 1966
Arthur 2597
Knight 29391
Parsifal 2095
Whiteknight 17612
Ywain 9501
Stonehenge 9325
Armor 774
Ireland 5029
Kent 28346
Gawain 2054
Morgan 3180
Fay 4820
"Moran Le Fay"

King(2305)-Queen(5457)

Lancelot (2041),Arthur(2597)-Guinevere(2483), Ginevra(613), (10870)Gwendolen, (2993) Wendy


2598 MERLIN - Relates to the seeking of magic and mystery. Helps attune one to the wisdom and power of the ancient Magicians and Alchemists.

2597 ARTHUR - Healing the inner King. In doing so, one's inner "kingdom" returns to a state of peace and plenty.

9499 EXCALIBUR (divine quest; divine power and protection)

(Esoteric Interpretation of Camelot Legends Lancelot - Incarnate of OSIRIS + HORUS
(soul essence mix or legend mix,
take it as you please)
Arthur - OSIRIS + SET
Guinevere - ISIS Incarnate 1
Elain - NEPHTHYS
Galahad - ANUBIS who evolves to HORUS
in the grail quest.

Lady of the Lake - ISIS Incarnate 2
Merlin - THOTH
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Angelina 64

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posted January 06, 2015 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
More regarding your divine quest....
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/002376.html

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posted January 07, 2015 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just gathering all the info here from previous posts - to minimise scrolling:

These are the asteroids I'm looking at:

Angel 11911
Angelica 965
Gabriella 355
Raphela 708
Michel 1348
Oriola 701
Saint Michel 9395
Soulie 13226
DNA 55555
Cydonia 1106
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11911, 965,355,708,1348,701, 9395, 13226, 55555, 1106

Then some good asteroids:
Logos 58534
Horus 1924
Knight 29391
Wisdom 3402
Spirit 37452
Aura 1488
Psyche 16
Alma 390

58534, 1924, 29391, 3402, 37452, 1488, 16, 390

Also checking fixed stars. Piecing the info gradually.....

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REVOLUTIONARIES - those who participated in and/or led political struggles.


Che Guevara - Argentinian Marxist revolutionary

Asc - Aries 6° conj Uranus
Logos conj Sun (0)
Venus conj Saint Michel (0) sextile Moon (0)
Oriola and Aldebaran conj NN (1), trine Horus (0)
Alma/Aura conj IC (0)
Grand trine - GC, Jupiter, Neptune


Martin Luther King - (so many aspects, to pick a few ain't easy)

Asc - Taurus 13°
Saturn at GC semisextile Sun at MC
Saturn conjunct Angel (1), quintile Angelica (0)
Grand trine - Pallas, Mars, Raphaela
Oriola conj IC (1)
Logos conj Gabriella (1) - Ist house
Horus conj Jupiter (1)


Gandhi

Asc - Libra 26° conj Gabriella (0)
Saturn at GA
Cydonia conj Vertex and Uranus (0)
Grand trine - Moon, Angel, Neptune
Spirit (in 1st) sextile Saint Michel (0), trine Logos (0)
Vedic asteroids - Mahakala/Tara conj Moon exact
Vibhuti conj Asc


Nelson Mandela

Asc - Sag 21° conjunct NN and DNA exact. NN is Direct. (Wow!)
Asc/DNA/NN sextile Angelica (0)
Venus conj DC (1) trine Angelica (1)
Oriola conj Sun (1)
Moon opp Rafaela (0) trine Michel (0)
Logos conj Vertex (1)
Horus conj Jupiter (0)
Yod with Saint Michel and Angel at base, & Mercury/Saturn at tip


Julian Assange - political activist, whistle blower

Asc - Sag 5.22
Gabriellla conjunct NN (0). NN is Direct.
Neptune conjunct DC
Oriola sextile Sun (0) opp Pluto (0)
Raphaela: conjunct Soulie (0) trine MC (0)
Michel: sextile Cydonia (0) trine St Michel (0)
Saturn sextile Spirit trine Knight (all exact - forming one end of a kite pattern) - this seems to say that he was a do gooder in a past life.
Horus sextile Asc (0) and sextile Mercury (1) (which is trine ASC)


We now have 3 people with Direct NNs. Very rare indeed!

POLITICAL ACTIVISTS and WRITERS - this group consists of people who proposed change mainly through their writings and speeches.


Amartya Sen - nobel winner development economist

Asc - Pisces 25.22
MC conj Venus (0) and GC (1), sextile NN
Sun conj Michel (1) and Raphaela (0)
Michel/ Raphaela sextile Neptune/Saint Michel
Gabriella at DC
Angel conj Knight


Karl Marx

Asc - Aqua 23°..
Rafaela conj Sun (0) trine Jupiter (0)
Saturn conj Soulie/ Pallas/ Anti-vertex (all at 15° in 1st house) semisextile Cydonia
Angelica conj MC (1)
Oriol conj Venus (2)


Noam Chomsky - political activist and writer - known as America's greatest intellectual

Angel conj Asc - 12° Sag - the Great Attractor (in 1928)
Sun conj Asc (2) square Cydonia (0)
NN Direct trine MC/Aura
IC at Aries point
Mercury conj Antares (1) sextile Raphael (0) and Pallas (1)
Grand cross - Moon, Venus, Horus, Vertex
Spirit sextile Logos exact

Noam Chomsky appears to have a Starseed profile!


Sri Aurobindo - political activist, writer, spiritual leader

Asc - Leo 13° conjunct Jupiter exact - (same degree as my Asc )
Pallas at GA (0) sextile Raphaela
Moon conj GC (1) trine Neptune
Horus conj Alma (0) - 1st house
NN conj Aldebaran (1)

Vedic asteroids - many aspects
Shiva conj IC (0)
Rudra conj DC (0)
Uranus conj Parvati/Sita

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posted January 07, 2015 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm amazed at these stats Astrokeen!

2 direct NN's? Awesome!

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posted January 07, 2015 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mother Theresa....no Direct NN but some interesting connections....

NN taurus@22.47(opposed my NN scorp@21.44 direct)

Soulie pisces@13.39 opposed Mars virgo@13.00

Moon taurus@18.37---Gabriella scorp@18.31
Oriola cap@18.17---Raphela cancer@19.10
Osiris cap@21.23---Neptune cancer@20.47
Uranus cap@21.47
DNA cap@23.22


Saturn taurus@6.32---Micheal scorp@4.25
Cydonia taurus@6.55
Angelica taurus@7.03


Angel libra@11.21
Jupiter libra@13.49

Rudra leo@14.17
Ganesa leo@14.52
Vibhuti leo@13.55

Psyche gem@6.46

Venus leo@8.53
Spirit sag@9.55
Angelina sag@9.03

Kaali aqua@28.23
Pluto gem@27.44
St. Micheal aqua@28.32---Alma cancer@1.11

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posted January 18, 2015 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am now beginning to see patterns.

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posted January 20, 2015 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, wow!

THAT makes sense to me, Astro K.

I've got MOON conjunct URANUS, ANGEL, and SHERLOCK.

That's me in a nutshell.

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posted January 20, 2015 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Luminaries and angles aspecting Angels seems common here.

@ Gabby, the aspects for Mother Teresa were very interesting. Moon conjunct an Angel or aspecting a key spiritual point again! The people listed above were more into exacting justice for an entire people, so a different focus from Mother Teresa's.

Strangely enough, the asteroid Knight was not prominent except for one person. Nor many of the others you listed above, so after checking a few, I am now only checking Knight for all. Similarly Psyche is not significant. I will replace Psyche with another asteroid. I am also only taking aspects upto 2 degree orb into account if aspecting a luminary. Otherwise mainly noting exact and upto 1 degree aspects.

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posted January 21, 2015 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Astro keen:
The Luminaries and angles aspecting Angels seems common here.

@ Gabby, the aspects for Mother Teresa were very interesting. Moon conjunct an Angel or aspecting a key spiritual point again! The people listed above were more into exacting justice for an entire people, so a different focus from Mother Teresa's.

Strangely enough, the asteroid Knight was not prominent except for one person. Nor many of the others you listed above, so after checking a few, I am now only checking Knight for all. Similarly Psyche is not significant. I will replace Psyche with another asteroid. I am also only taking aspects upto 2 degree orb into account if aspecting a luminary. Otherwise mainly noting exact and upto 1 degree aspects.


The fact that most of those asteroids don't make any aspects is interesting! Hmmmm

If I think of any freedom fighter type persons, I'll look their chart up and post any tight aspects I find.

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posted January 21, 2015 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are these at all the kind of people your looking up? Yours seem more spritual and less combative/militant, but do you like any of these?

New Delhi: Pandit Madan Mohan Malaviya, popularly known as Mahamana, was a devout freedom fighter, notable educationist and politician who formed Banaras Hindu University (BHU), one of the finest educational institutions in India.

He left no stone unturned in India's quest for independence. His patriotism remained unbroken from youth till death.

Born on 25th December, 1861 in Allahabad to a Brahmin family, today, Malviya is a source of inspiration to many. He was among the eight children that his father, Pandit Baijnath, and mother, Meena Devi had.

I hated that movie mostly because of the inaccuracies. When William Wallace died, the French Princess was still in France and about 9 years old.

That aside, remember Freedom Fighters do not often have a pleasant end and many of them are down right jerks personally, that aside:

Francisco Madero - let the overthrow of the Mexican dictator Díaz.

Michael Collins - IRA hero who led Southern Ireland to freedom (Liam Nieson movie)
Jan Žižka - Bohemian freedom fighter general - was mostly blind during final victories

Alexander Nevsky - Medieval Russian prince who saved Russia from the Teutonic Knights (old Russian movie made about him in the 1930s)

Albert II, King of the Belgiums - In World War I, Germany over ran 99% of his country. Through shear will he held what was left of the army together to hold on to the remaining 1% until victory was achieved.

Cochise - Apache leader who held out against the American invasion.

Robert "Rob Roy" Roy Mac Gregor - Scottish hero who brought down corrupt English officials. Two movies about him.

Chief Joseph - Leader of the christian Nez Perce Indians in the American Northwest. Tribe falsely accused of being hostile (the tribe prided themselves on their friendship with whites) and were to be forced to relocated to Oklahoma. Chief Joseph led the Army on a massive chase in attempt to get his people to safety in Canada. Didn't make it.

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posted January 21, 2015 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Gabby. Lots there to search for. My freedom fighter is also interested in social justice, such as Gandhi and Che Guevara - so fighter doesn't necessarily mean militant. Dick Cheney wouldn't qualify!!

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posted January 21, 2015 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Astro keen:
Thanks Gabby. Lots there to search for. My freedom fighter is also interested in social justice, such as Gandhi and Che Guevara - so fighter doesn't necessarily mean militant. Dick Cheney wouldn't qualify!!

Yes, I see that!
Gandhi is my favorite, I have his autobiography, very inspiring...such an amazing person.

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posted January 23, 2016 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I consider myself very pro-social justice but I'm cynical of a lot of the people in the movement who make it more about "calling each other out" than doing anything constructive. Too many social justice types are content with working in the confines of the system instead of radically deconstructing their assumptions about how change must be made. (i.e., focuses on "reforming" the police/courts/prisons ignores the fact that the criminal "justice" system in our country may be inadequate altogether, and that alternative systems like restorative justice are possible) But instead people are content with stanning for Hillary and changing their profile pictures on Facebook.

Here are some of the close orbs in my chart between asteroids and planets (within 1°)

Angel square Pluto
Angelica trine Mars
Gabriella trine Venus
Raphaela square Venus
Oriola opposite Pluto
Saint Michel conjunct Venus
DNA square Saturn
Cydonia trine Sun

I'm curious about the prominence of Pluto and Venus in my chart. FWIW I was born in the "Pluto in Sagittarius" generation.

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Just a quick glance and doing this a little
differently
Yogananda( a true revolutionary) :grin)
Natal Chart
Spiritual leader
5 Jan 1893
15:17 gmt
Gorakhpur
India [URL=http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?wgid=wgeJxNjj0LwjAYhH-N2yvkw2g0ZBCEUgdxE8eTlKaUpCVJKf33tou4HMcd3HNz13dWmDZYcBOdfQ8tIqIDPZEQ4BEzKJAiTlyfJQl2kZqCZg1X1CITo2pI6P04Jaoft_pKWjZCk DjGg6]http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?wgid=wgeJxNjj0LwjAYhH-N2yvkw2g0ZBCEUgdxE8eTlKaUpCVJKf33tou4HMcd3HNz13dWmDZYcBOdfQ8tIqIDPZEQ4BEzKJAiTlyfJQl2kZqCZg1X1CITo2pI6P04Jaoft_pKWjZC kDjGg6[/URL] KJhDrJTTgxA_eJCI39294J9mNuvUNprFrTO-KEtKxu45pPWcb1aCjeoszG58XuuUnZ8lf1BZGwPWI

Yogananda
Note Neptune and Pluto.
The chart above is simply the one they have in their database, I did not change orbs or select true node. True Node is 5ta03.
As you not above Saturn and Uranus are in Exaltation.
I would never ignore the Helio if I were looking at such a chart.
1) I immediately look to Venus,
Heliocentric nodes of Venus then
15sa42
Helio Aphelion of Mercury 15sa36
Of course that amplifies the 8 degree wide conjunction of Mercury and Venus in Geo.
Jupiter is trine in Geo,
G.Jupiter is conjunct G. Alma @ the Helio nodes of Golden & squared by earth/sun dyad
H. Node of Wisdom
G. Mars at 5ar40
Geo Logos 5ar57
H. Aphelion of Chiron 5ar32
H.Mars 16ta54 Geo Ceres 17ta17
H.Node of Destinn 16aq34
H.Perihelion of Neptune 16ta35
H.North Node or Mercury 17ta03
Helio N. node of Ceres 20ge36
Helio N. node of Juno 20vi43 HNN Horus20pi15
Helio n.node of Aura 5aq trine Geo Mars
Helio N. node of Saint Michel 19sa40
Helio Long of Saint Michel 19sa48
Helio Long of Raphaela 19ge28
Vertex 28sa46
Galactice Center 25sa21 Moon 25le42
Geocentric Saint Michel 26sa58
Geo Chiron 3vi37, H.Node of Angel 2vi57
Helio Chiron is trine/sextile to its own H. Nodes. H.Jupiter at south
G.Long of Jupiter and Helio Long of Pallas
H.Long of Alma 45/135 H.Nodes of Pallas
Geo Juno 4vi22
Helio Aphelion of Mars 4vi 05/also Helio Long
of Destinn, G.Long Destinn 25vi43,H.S.Node of
Raphaela 25vi46

Geo Saturn 12li35
G. Long of Michel is at H.Node of Saturn.
H.Aphelion of Jupiter 12li36
Helio Saturn 6li41
Helio Angel 6li41
So Geo Mars at Helio aphelia' of Chiron is thus tied to Angel & Saturn.

Uranus 10 Scorpio geocentric
Uranus 7 Scorpio in Helio and Conjunct Venus, so now the already strong Venus is tied to the exalted Uranus.
G.Spirit 9sc58 Knight 9aq32 Cydonia 9aq06
Angelica 9aq49
G.Psyche 9sc08
G.Long Angel 22li39 ?Spica
H.Long of Psyche 23li19
H.Perihelion of Ceres 00vi09
H. North Node of Psyche 0vi26
G.Long Wisdom 0vi06
G. Long Uranus square the H.Nodes of Neptune/
Bless/Logos
In the Geo chart looking at asteroids at the ascendant Sphinx is 1minute above asc.
Heliocentric Node of Sphinx is 13sa56 .
so also H node of Uranus and H.Perihelion of Vesta and also the great attractor.
If you are still wondering about the node of the moon at 4,5,6ta and Sc, G.Long of DNA
is 4sc.Aurora and Aeternitas 4sc29 &4sc55 respectively.
The Node of the moon is also making 45/135/90
to H. nodes of Juno/Ceres/Horus and Aura
Geo Achilles and Brigitta 4cn/cp in op making sextile and trine to the moons nodes.

In Geo,Oriola is 0li59,Soulie is 3li44,
& the GA sits there
maybe I will add more later.
More of the asteroids you have listed above are also involved


In the chart of any individual that made a long lasting influence it is unwise to ignore the Heliocentric aspects because their lives were much larger than themselves.


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I have Excalibur conjunct fixed star Algol. Please tell me I'm not going to die with my head cut offf
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By the way...I didn't search her as a champion of social justice. But...

Doreen Virtue and her thing with angels might make sense.

Here it goes:

ASC 24º32' Taurus
Angel - 27º12' Taurus

Spirit 25º44 conjunct Saturn 25º14 - Saggitarius

Gabriella 3º57 Virgo - sextile Neptune 3º16' Scorpio

Oriola (23º07') conjunct Venus (23º19') - Pisces

Saint Michel (8º04' Gemini) semisextile Sun (8º31' Taurus)

Saint Michel sextile Uranus (7º37'Leo)

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posted August 16, 2016 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I like justice, my acc is libra
I just don`t know if our actuall society has any chance to be just.

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Why not check Julian Assange, he fights for our freedom to know the truth

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posted August 17, 2016 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good idea!

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Julian Assange - policial activist, whistle blower

Asc - Sag 5.22
Gabriellla conjunct NN (0). NN is Direct.
Neptune conjunct DC
Oriola sextile Sun (0) opp Pluto (0)
Raphaela: conjunct Soulie (0) trine MC (0)
Michel: sextile Cydonia (0) trine St Michel (0)
Kite with Saturn, Spirit, Knight, Juno (all at 28 degrees) - this seems to say that he was a do gooder in a past life. Love Juno here as the guiding light - a protector of the state.
Horus sextile Asc (0) and sextile Mercury (1) (which is trine ASC)

Vedic asteroids - Shankar and Tara conjunct Mars - Interesting!

This is the 1st chart here with Knight prominently placed.

WE now have 3 people with Direct NNs . This would have been hugely improbable in such a small sample.

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