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athenegoddess
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posted September 17, 2012 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where do you have your SPIRIT asteroid?

Mine is in my first house at 16 Libra and my Ascendant is at 12 Libra.

My Venus 14 Gemini
My Mercury 19 Gemini
My Pallas 18 Aquarius


When Saturn was conjunct my Spirit I had an awakening..

I love this asteroid. It shows where we connect with the unseen truth and how it manifests in our lives.

My sabian is: A retired sea captain. Keywords: the presence/involvement in life is not pregnant, reserved attitude, maturity, solitude, wisdom, acting like a experienced person, a good adviser.
http://www.astrologycritics.com/sabian-symbols-in-astrology/Sabian-Symbols-from-Aries.html

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posted September 17, 2012 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting Athenegoddess!

Do you use asteroids in transit, often?

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posted September 17, 2012 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My spirit is Sagittarius 27 degree 56' retrograde in 8th house
Between
Sagittarius 27. A sculptor. Keywords: vision, ideas, plan, creativity, skill, determination.
Sagittarius 28. An old bridge over a beautiful stream. Keywords: maturity, immortal values, experience, stability, dependence, connection, memories.

Opposite Venus and Pallas
Sextile Vertex

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posted September 17, 2012 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ami,

Yes I do.. haha.. they are very revealing!
Saturn in Libra was the beginning of my life for me. All my good karma had come rushing into my life and it's was just an amazing transit for me.

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posted September 17, 2012 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ail221:
My spirit is Sagittarius 27 degree 56' retrograde in 8th house
Between
Sagittarius 27. A sculptor. Keywords: vision, ideas, plan, creativity, skill, determination.
Sagittarius 28. An old bridge over a beautiful stream. Keywords: maturity, immortal values, experience, stability, dependence, connection, memories.

Opposite Venus and Pallas
Sextile Vertex



Wow right on the galactic center!
Well you would use 28 Sag a couple degrees away from GC..

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posted September 17, 2012 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ROFL that sounds bad......

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posted September 17, 2012 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, not bad at all.

That's where the great central sun resides. The source of all creation. The mother's presence!

When the sun eclipses this point on 12/21.. expect the mothers presence to come forth to this world like it never has before.

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posted September 17, 2012 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gray     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's not what 'spirit' symbolizes in a chart - in fact, the meaning of it is pretty literal.

Mine is in Scorpio 9th house Just over 16 degrees in. The Sabian :

PHASE 227 (SCORPIO 17°): A WOMAN, FECUNDATED BY HER OWN SPIRIT, IS "GREAT WITH CHILD."

KEYNOTE: A total reliance upon the dictates of the God-within.

In contrast to the outgoing smile of the girl in the preceding symbol, here we see the result of a deep and complete concentration reaching to the innermost center of the personality where the Living God acts as a fecundating power. This reveals the potency of the inward way, the surrender of the ego to a transcendent Force which can create through the person vivid manifestations of the Will of God.

This second phase of the forty-sixth five-fold sequence brings to us the realization of normally hidden potentialities in the average human being of our day. Faith in the Divine is shown here being concretely justified. The human person becomes a "mother of the Living God." This is THE TRANSPERSONAL WAY of existence. It is the way that leads to creative mutations.

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posted September 17, 2012 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"That's not what 'spirit' symbolizes in a chart - in fact, the meaning of it is pretty literal"

Okay.. and what would that literal meaning be? lol.

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posted September 17, 2012 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gray     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
"That's not what 'spirit' symbolizes in a chart - in fact, the meaning of it is pretty literal"

Okay.. and what would that literal meaning be? lol.


The...name of the asteroid itself should answer that for you; I'm trying to figure out why you even needed me to explain that much to you. *blank stare*

Spirit is your...spirit, or your soul, in your chart.

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posted September 17, 2012 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And what part of unseen truths does not go along with that?

Sorry, I didn't know you can see the soul or spirit. My apologies.

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posted September 17, 2012 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gray     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
And what part of unseen truths does not go along with that?

Sorry, I didn't know you can see the soul or spirit. My apologies.


That's the thing. It doesn't. The meaning you gave, is wrong.

But you think you can see emotions and maternal figures (moon), how one asserts themselves (mars) and how they love and appreciate art (venus) in a chart? Either you believe in astrology, or you don't.

I have no problem with opinions, but if you're going to try and present your own personal theory on what an asteroid should symbolize in a chart, you should make that clear, and not try to pass it off as absolute fact and what the asteroid actually symbolizes, which is an utterly crappy thing to do.

I'm sure there ARE 'unseen truth' asteroids, but the Spirit asteroid, isn't one of them, no matter how much you try to rewrite the rules and make it so. Don't believe me? Go to astrodienst or even astrologyweekly, and post what you said here and see what kind of replies you get. They'll set you straight even quicker than I just did.

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posted September 17, 2012 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol.

I can only give what my experience was with the asteroid and what happened to me during the transit. And no, the spirit asteroid doesn't just mean your soul. It can mean many things for a person including connecting directly with many spirits and having psychic ability.

Don't try to make it sound like I'm trying to rewrite the rules because if you knew anything about astrology it's that nothing is ever fixed or written in stone.

Ugh.. you are repulsive. Gross.

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posted September 17, 2012 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
An asteroid can have many layered meanings, Gray. Also, it is a very new field, so allows one to explore Asteroids in one's chart and those of others.

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posted September 17, 2012 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jovian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Go to astrodienst or even astrologyweekly, and post what you said here and see what kind of replies you get. They'll set you straight even quicker than I just did.

That's why people hang out here--to get away from the extreme expression of such "knowledge," and allow their own intuitive interpretations to emerge. IDK, Gray--different sites have their strengths. There are certainly things that aggravate me about this site, but there is something about this place you can't find anywhere else.

If I couldn't have my own intuitive sense of what the asteroids meant, I don't think I'd be in the least interested in them. Certainly, one looks at the body of current research on an asteroid, but if you can't also have your own personal sense of connection to it, if both your right AND left brain can't be satisfied, then I'm not interested.

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posted September 17, 2012 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Spirit is at 0°15 Capricorn.

An Indian Chief Claims Power From The Assembled Tribe

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posted September 17, 2012 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jovian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, Athene's description of her experience wouldn't necessarily discount the more "official" description of Spirit being akin to "soul."

Conjuncting Saturn could indeed mean past soul karma becoming manifest, right? Her description of it as an "awakening" still could jibe with that. Yes?

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posted September 17, 2012 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, Jovian!
Your best teacher is to jump in and do charts. Volunteer in Personal Readings. Ask people how they feel each asteroid/planetary aspect.
This is hard work but if you love Astrology, it will reap pure joy. If you give service to people, they will give love back to you and it can be a great love fest

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posted September 17, 2012 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
No, not bad at all.

That's where the great central sun resides. The source of all creation. The mother's presence!

When the sun eclipses this point on 12/21.. expect the mothers presence to come forth to this world like it never has before.


HAHAHAHA Sounds like the beginning of a movie. Interesting stuff

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posted September 17, 2012 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jovian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is obviously a very important asteroid for you, natally, Athene.

There is not much outstanding for me natally, regarding Spirit.

It conjunts Disneya (<1) (Oddly, I share Walt's birthday- Dec. 5)

Conj one of the Liliths (<2)
Conj Karma and Child (<2)
Well, it does also CONJ Uranus at just over 2.

OPP Merlin (<1)

That conglomeration does give me some strange apprehension, regarding some possible unknown in my future.

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I've already shared this elsewhere, but FWIW, personally, I have found SPIRIT to be manifesting along the lines of "soul," as Gray suggested, in synastry between past lifelines (past lives with known birthdates), as well as natally with past life names. I'm not interested in debating "past lives" or "reincarnation" here, but the actions of this asteroid could be said to be just one of many connections simply confirming past life recognitions I arrived at, years ago.

Synastry between me and a past lifeline:

Spirit CONJ Spirit (<1)
Spirit CONJ Spirit (<3) (Helio)
Karma CONJ Spirit (<2)

Synastry, me and a different past lifeline:

Spirit CONJ name (<2)

Between those two past lifelines (not my current natal):

name CONJ Spirit (<2)

Natal of a past lifeline:

Spirit CONJ another past life name (<2)
Spirit CONJ another past life name (<2) (Helio)

Synastry between someone I know and what I perceive as a past incarnation of hers:

Spirit CONJ DNA (<1)
Spirit CONJ DNA (<2) (Helio)
Spirit CONJ Mercury (<1)
Sun OPP Spirit (<1)
Current last name CONJ Spirit (<3)

Someone's natal whom I sense from her other incarnation:

Her Spirit TRI Her past life name (<1) (Helio)


...If you can follow all that.


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posted September 17, 2012 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for inthemisosoup     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:

I love this asteroid. It shows where we connect with the unseen truth and how it manifests in our lives. [/URL]

Mine is at 19 Virgo in the 7th house.

My moon is 20 Pisces
My sun is 16 Sagittarius (3 deg, wide)

Sabian is Virgo 20. An automobile caravan. Keywords: social life can become exhausting, you are looking for vacation and time to relax, ready for new experiences.

Virgo 20 or 19? The sabians move 1-30 so I assume Virgo 19 would be sabian 20.

Anyway, I do find social interactions exhausting from time to time and I believe the key in uncovering who I am and what I believe in most come from within, not through others. Although with Spirit in my 7th house maybe I am wrong.

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posted September 18, 2012 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My spirit is in Capricorn 7 degrees house 8
in natal chart it...
conjuncts Uranus
sextile Venus
sextile Vertex

I've been going though a bizarre spiritual awakening since July. And have been slowly introduced to it since February.

Anyways Spirit's transit is conjuncting my Vertex, as well as trining Venus, sextile Uranus, Sextile Spririt.

and planets affecting my natal spirit.
are Pluto conjuncting, Uranus is squaring it, chiron sextiling, spirit sextile it.

but as far as I know I'm just going though the beginning stages.

The synastry I have with someone that is telling me about what I am going though and that has happened to himself.
My Spirit conjuncts his Venus, and Sextile Mars

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posted September 18, 2012 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stawr, your Spirit is opposite my Sun and conjunct my Moon/Neptune.

Yes Pluto is going over this for me and on his ASCendant/Neptune. This probably has something to do with my awakening too.. What Pluto is doing to me is Beautiful!

I think my ex bf's Sagittarius stellium activating my Sagittarius stellium in my heliocentric chart is also a huge factor in my awakening.

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posted September 18, 2012 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jovian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Yes, Jovian!
Your best teacher is to jump in and do charts. Volunteer in Personal Readings. Ask people how they feel each asteroid/planetary aspect.
This is hard work but if you love Astrology, it will reap pure joy. If you give service to people, they will give love back to you and it can be a great love fest


...I'll keep that idea for future consideration!

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posted September 18, 2012 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jovian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Stawr, your Spirit is opposite my Sun and conjunct my Moon/Neptune.

...And conjunct my Venus.

We're all connected, one way or another, eh?

What Pluto is doing to my Venus is horrendous. LOL!

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