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Ceridwen
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posted June 14, 2013 05:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
While we have asteroids for the former three, we don`t have one for Seth.
However I just came upon the information that apparently Plutarch equated the Egyptian Seth with the Greek Typhon.

I put Typhoon into my chart, and it fits so neatly with my other Egyptian asteroids, actually it is a wee bit scary. lol


OSIRIS 7°50 Cap
ISIS 8°33 Cap
Venus 6°07 Cap

NEPHTYS 4°56 Scorpio

TYPHON 6.44 Taurus
LUCIFER 6.30 Taurus
ACTOR 7°31 Taurus

ANGEL 7°31 Sag
ATLANTIS 8°15 Sag
ASC 7°01 Sag


HORUS 8°01 Pisces


HEKATE 8°01 Virgo

Sabians:

ISIS: An Angel Carrying A Harp
OSIRIS: In A Sunlit Home Domesticated Birds Sing Joyously
Venus:
A Veiled Prophet Speaks, Seized By The Power Of A God


NEPHTYS: A Massive Rocky Shore Resist The Pounding Of The Sea

LUCIFER/ TYPHON:
The Woman Of Samaria At The Ancestral Well


HORUS (Plus ISHTAR)
A Jockey Spurs His Horse, Intent On Outdistancing His Rivals

PHOLUS on 6-7 PIsces
Illumined By A Shaft Of Light, A Large Cross Lies On Rocks Surrounded By Sea

ECHNATON on 7-8 Pisces
A Girl Blowing A Bugle

HEKATE: (and RUDRA)
An Expressionist Painter At Work

(Lilith on 6 Virgo: A Harem

ASC/ ANGEL/POSEIDON/LUST/WISDOM
Within The Depths Of The Earth New Elements Are Being Formed

ATLANTIS

A Mother Leads Her Small Child Step By Step Up A Steep Stairway

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SaturnineMoth
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posted June 15, 2013 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sethos - (Greek) Set = Seth (os, masculine-singular ending) #5009

there is also Sette #8885

(still no Echidna for Typhon however there is Vipera #7464 "she viper" = Echidna, and Lameia #248 isn't too far off either by Hyginus & Stesichorus's counts since Scylla is either daughter of Ceto(as Eket)/Phorcys, or Echidna as Lamia/Lameia... queen or not...) ^^; it gets confusing after that though...

- you may also want to compare placements with Sethos/Sette to Serqet (Serket), consort of Sutek/Sutech (Sutek is another variation of the same divinity) - Set has many name variations... Suta being perhaps the earliest. (My own nameology/etymology research leads me to believe this name ties into the Sanskrit Suta, for "son", perchance... but the meaning has not been validated by any historian/Egyptologist for certain and probably never will.)

The only similarity that Plutarch drew upon in comparing Set to Typhon was that both symbolize usurpers, in relation to Set's involvement in the Osiris mythos. Set predates Osiris.

The Typhon stuck with Set due to the ambiguous hieroglyph that was used to represent him, still referred to as the "Typhonic beast" (it's also still a topic of speculation today, some say it is a fennec fox (or salawa, some form of kitsune), others have said it represents the aardvark, or~giraffe, others jackal, and later he was further demonized as a donkey/mule... but, in all relevance to the surviving myths, and my own personal opinion... it's likely a boar. Set was also worshiped in a fish form in some regions for a time, like Dagan.) ~shrug~ The Osiris/Set myth functions a lot like the tales of Ouranos/Uranus and Zeus/Jupiter and his kin... it explains a division of celestial bodies by Set, (Set himself is much like Kronos/Saturn). The tales are not identical, but the meaning behind them, what they try to explain to those ancient people is the same on many levels. Unfortunately, as with all those legends... we've lost the better part of them to "the conquering" religion at the time... in this case it was Isis-Osiris who stole the show away from early Sutek-Serqet...(Nephthys really isn't very strongly connected to Set, compared to Isis and Neith and Serket she is "young", a newer addition or a refurbished and/or foreign epithet.)

In any case, I just mean to point out that Set was not always as simply described as he is so often today, the evil incarnate god of the ancient Egyptians... he was a storm, agriculture, fertility/virility, war, and protector god first. As well as show for others how he may be interpreted in astrological terms that are more familiar, he is a Saturnian figure. He breaks apart the old (chaos; Osiris), and gives way to order, rebirth (Isis-Nephthys, the siblings/pantheon), and helps uphold the cycle for new growth (Horus)... "the necessary evil", if you will.

(alright!!! well... ) ~I won't go on any further! lol ^^;

~nini! <3

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Gabby
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posted June 15, 2013 02:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It definitely fits into my lil list of spiritual asteroids..

Qumran scorp@0°42 1st
Kaali scorp@2°59 1st
Ute scorp@3.17 1st
Ra-Shalom cap@3°44 3rd
Sette scorp@4°02 1st
Hathor cap@4°45 3rd
Nefertiti scorp@5.56 2nd
Lameia pisces@6°45 6th
Sphinx virgo@6°45 12th
Atlantis taurus@7°21 8th
Samadhi scorp@8°27 2nd
Typhon taurus@8°50 8th
Eros cap@9.00 4th
Nephthys cap@9°45 4th
Valentine cap@9.50 4th
Inca virgo@12°29 12th
Selqet cap@15° 8 4th
Isis taurus@15°31 8th
Ptah scorp@14°58 2nd
Lust cap@14
Angel cap@16
Rudra cap@16
Ishtar scorp@18°37 2nd
NN scorp@22 2nd
Vibhuti cancer@25°31 10th
Horus cancer@24°31 10th
Imhotep virgo@27° 8 12th
Excalibur virgo@27 12th

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Ceridwen
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posted June 15, 2013 04:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you for this wealth of informaion.

I donīt want to sound arrogant, but it is rare these days that I come across mythological references and patterns that I haven`t known before, but this one is totally new to me. And I am thankful for you sharing it, as I am always thirsty for knowledge.

Well my asteroid KARMA is on 16 Gemini on the fixed star Rigel in the Orion-system, and I believe that is associated with the urge to accumulate information and knowledge.

Additionally my NESSUS is on Betelgeuse, another Orion-star, but I do not like to think about that. lol

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iQ
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posted June 15, 2013 06:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was not getting consistent results with Typhon, I too think that Sette and Sethos are better bets.

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Ceridwen
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posted June 15, 2013 06:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, then probably it is just another sign that I should be careful undertaking journeys across water

(Atlantis, Neptune and Poseidon all conjunct my ASC and are quinkunx Lucifer and Typhon).


BTW Sethos is on 3.1 Aries in my chart conjunct Aura, Gaeia, Alma, magion on the IC, and o course quinkunx Nephtys.

Sette is on 21.1 Leo. Dr Sette is conjunct my NN.

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