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Ami Anne
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posted February 01, 2014 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any thoughts? Saw this on Astro 2

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posted February 02, 2014 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, the Google tells me that at least one person thinks he was a Gemini.

See also:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/002323.html

and
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/002316.html

If you're asking about me, I have it at 24 Cap trine Saturn and quintile Pallas exact.

Which makes all kinds of sense to me because (without checking Sabians or synastry or reading Alice in Wonderland) (1) I am descended on my father's side from a(n ancient) hatter who probably died from the chemicals used in his occupation, (2) Mercury rules my DSC, and (3) my mother was a quintuple Capricorn who I loved deeply but who always managed to drive me insane.

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posted February 02, 2014 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And now that I check synastry with my mother:

My Madhatter conjunct her Mercury (3)
her Jupiter (1)
quincunx her Pallas (1)

and

Her Madhatter sextile my Mercury (0s)
sextile my Venus (1)
square my Neptune (1)
biquintile my ASC (0)
quintile my MC (0)

Trust me, in this context, a sextile is not necessarily an easy aspect.

[If I'm the only one this synastry amazes, that is okay. It makes perfect sense to me].

Edit: Oh, and while we're at it, our Madhatters mutually touch each others 8th house.

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posted February 02, 2014 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, I'm just going to curl up and die now:

My Mother's Madhatter Sabian:

17-18 deg Cancer

A Hen Scratching The Ground To Find Nourishment For Her Progeny

and mine (perhaps a little less startling, but since I always felt like I was somehow foreign to her, nevertheless a bit amazing):

24-25 deg Capricorn

A Store Filled With Precious Oriental Rugs

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posted February 02, 2014 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for m.blade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have this conjunct sun in cancer

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Ami Anne
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posted February 05, 2014 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am trying to hone this down and this is what it seems like to me. Any comments are welcomed!

The person has had all sorts of strange and nonsensical things happen to them such that there life made little sense and they were blamed for things they did not do.

I can see this being a nutty childhood.

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posted February 05, 2014 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did a little article. Tell me what you all think, especially if you have it in a prominent place!

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posted February 05, 2014 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Madhatter Asteroid(6735)
By amiann | Published: February 5, 2014 |

I discover my asteroids through use. I read the myths or the stories and I try to apply them to everyday life. What good is an esoteric tome from which one cannot extract practical wisdom? As such, I would describe the Madhatter Asteroid as follows..

A person may have grown up in a home in which nothing made sense. Reality was skewed to the point that the person may have shut down. Emotional or mental illness may have ensued. With this asteroid, I think persecution of the native ensued, as well. I think the person was framed and blamed for things he did not do. I think he was persecuted but INNOCENT of any charges against him.

Check your Madhatter Asteroid and Comment on my Comment Form. I await your comments!

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posted February 05, 2014 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been checking everyone and a person who seemed quite problematic for me has it conjunct his Jupiter. It makes a lot of sense. I think this asteroid will be a real way for people to understand themselves which is always my goal!

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posted February 05, 2014 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Ami, I think you got the meaning!!! Lol
My madhatter sits on my IC, cap@12... IC csp@10!
My mom was crazy, my dad disappeared in thin air, we moved constantly, everyone said one thing then did another ...pure insanity! You've seen my chart a long time ago with all the "Alice in Wonderland" asteroids....they touch me everywhere!! Even the cute little odd balls, tweedledee and tweedledum are on my NN!! Red queen is opposed madhatter on my cancer MC(my moms a red head, lol)one of the asteroids is on my moon and another on my AC but I can't remember which ones!

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posted February 05, 2014 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Gabby
I do think this asteroid is going to prove to be gold! I am glad you are excited too

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posted February 05, 2014 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is the story of Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee dee. Do you know it? Do they have asteroids lol

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posted February 05, 2014 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alice-291
Madhatter-6735
Marchare-6736
Whiterabbit-17942
Chishirecat-6042
Tweedledee-9387
Tweedledum-17681
RedQueen-17518
Whiteknight-17612
King-2305
Knight-29391
Jabberwoky-7470
Tea-453
The White Queen's name--"Miriana"
Marianna-602
The Dodo bird...
Dodo-6336
Bandersnatch-9780
Mockturtle-8889

291,6735,6736,17942,6042,9387,17681,17518,17612,
2305,29391,7470,453,602,6336,9780,8889

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posted February 05, 2014 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Common versions of the nursery rhyme include:
Tweedledum and Tweedledee
Agreed to have a battle;
For Tweedledum said Tweedledee
Had spoiled his nice new rattle.
Just then flew down a monstrous crow,
As black as a tar-barrel;
Which frightened both the heroes so,
They quite forgot their quarrel.

The characters are perhaps best known from Lewis Carroll's Through the Looking-Glass and what Alice Found There (1871). Carroll, having introduced two fat little men named Tweedledum and Tweedledee, quotes the nursery rhyme, which the two brothers then go on to enact. They agree to have a battle, but never have one. When they see a monstrous black crow swooping down, they take to their heels. The Tweedle brothers never contradict each other, even when one of them, according to the rhyme, "agrees to have a battle". Rather, they complement each other's words.


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posted February 05, 2014 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do you see it as working conj your NN, Gabby?

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posted February 05, 2014 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
How do you see it as working conj your NN, Gabby?


Personally I've always taken them to mean a person who is easy to get along with, doesn't want to fight or be contradictory just wants to allow peace to rule them!
And that is where I'm headed in life, I'm tired of fighting I just want everyone to get along and stop thinking our differences are a reason to fight and hate others...they make us unique and special, not an enemy!
And if someone does something that offends or hurts you, let it go...there's worse things that could happen and we get hurt and we all accidentally hurt others to! So forgive and forget!

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posted February 05, 2014 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes, I was thinking that, too, and that fits yo, Gabby! xx

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posted February 05, 2014 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That gave me the chills. Red Queen on your MC. What was the Red Queen's story. Please, tell me if you can hone her down to a theme. Lets see if it fits

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posted February 05, 2014 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
yes, I was thinking that, too, and that fits yo, Gabby! xx


Thank you!! They are conjunct my magnanimity also on my NN , so I'm pretty sure I'm being told where I need to go in my life!! It's a fitting conjunction!

I also think the bird coming down and scaring them...
Is telling humanity there is bigger things to worry about so let go of the petty stuff...stand united to build each other up so we are strong enough to face the bigger things!

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posted February 05, 2014 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, do the Tweedle's travel together? They must! I am fascinated by them and all this.

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I am gonna study all these. You know what? I really relate to Alice. Was she the sane one in all the craziness.

I have to read the whole book because I think these are gonna be a gold mine.

Do you know the book, Gabby?

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posted February 05, 2014 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
So, do the Tweedle's travel together? They must! I am fascinated by them and all this.


No they don't!! Right now they square each other by a couple degrees!
Mine are not a tight conjunction...ones exact on my NN the other is a few degrees away....I think their positions in a chart might represent ones desire to let go of the battle of the ego and let love win!

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Man, these are so fascinating. I did not appreciate them until one of our friends on here had Madhatter conj her Sun. Then, I started really wanting to explore it.

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I am gonna study all these. You know what? I really relate to Alice. Was she the sane one in all the craziness.

I have to read the whole book because I think these are gonna be a gold mine.

Do you know the book, Gabby?


I know the new one...I never read the original though!
It is fascinating and yes Alice was the sane one amongst all these crazy people and her innocence and desire to understand them instead of judge them is what kept her from losing her mind! She didn't get angry at them for not answering her questions with straight answers or puzzling her more than helping her.....she just listened with curiosity and fascination! Eventually what they said made sense to her and answered her questions once all the pieces where in place for her to see it!
Thats what we must do in order to preserve our sanity in an insane environment!
Judgement makes you turn hard, hard things can break....but fascination keeps you soft and flexible and able to bend, like a child!
Its the only way to remain open and not lose your zeal and happiness in life even when times are tough, eventually it will all work out and you will understand it all...you just have to trust the path your on instead of judge it, and look at everything with fascination instead of frustration and wonder how does this fit in and what do I need to learn from it?

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posted February 05, 2014 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is there a new version of Alice. What should I look for on Amazon. I wonder if I have Alice conj something. Wouldn't that be weird? lol

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