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Aurora_girl1990
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posted March 05, 2015 02:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aurora_girl1990     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Quote:Hi Amelia,
Eros conjunct Saturn need not be betrayal, it is the squares that indicate betrayal.

The conjunction is evidence of a Karmic Soulmate: A Soulmate with whom you have developed so much karmic debt that you have to marry or live together for a few years to pay off the debts. Once the debts are paid, either he will transform into an even more loving person [and enhance the beauty of the relationship] or he will suddenly separate, allowing a better Soulmate into your life.

Hi IQ the above quote was from a different thread.

I was wondering what would you say about the following aspect:

My saturn square his eros (exact)
My saturn square his venus(2d)

His saturn conjunct my juno(4d)
My juno conjunct his Osiris(exact)

My Alma conjunct his karma(exact)
His Alma trine my sun(exact)

We also have the dread aspect of His pluto square my dejanira exact..What would you say about that IQ,in relation with the above?


My interpretation would be that there was a betrayal in the past life line(saturn square eros?) due to love and in this lifetime there's a karma relating to marriage in some form?Please help IQ

What i'm curious about is my juno conjunct his Osiris exact..Does it mean that what i see as an ideal wife is how he expresses his divine masculine side?

But i don't know what to say about the dreaded pluto square dejanira aspect.He's into yoga so maybe that helps.(and yes he's miles away).

And in another chart,if we have saturn conjunct eros exact but we're miles away(in different countries) and can't possibly marry how will we settle the debt we have with each other?Will being friend suffice?

In this chart ,we also have:

My juno conjunct his osiris (1d)
my juno conjunct his karma (exact)
My juno conjunct his pluto (2d)
His valentine opposite my saturn(exact)
His Eros conjunct my saturn(exact)
His Destiny square my saturn(exact)


Much help would be appreciated.Thank you very much IQ.

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Aurora_girl1990
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posted March 05, 2015 03:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aurora_girl1990     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But this chart is the one i really need to know as he's a friend of mine and he lives near me.

Could you take a look at the aspects below first if you have the time?

We seems to have all the bad aspects:

Mars conjunct saturn(2.5 orb)

(which you said and i quote "1. His Mars conjunct my Saturn 1d.
This is a repressive and frustrating aspect. One of the worst conjunctions in Astrology, limitless potential to drain away happiness.")

What did you mean by that IQ?

And then we have the following:

His Pluto square my dejanira(exact)
~which you said on your site that it's a red flag and needs an astrologer's opinion.~

And we also have his karma trine my ascendant(exact) which is one of the aspects to determine if one is a true love soulmate based on your calculator.


My friends think he's interested in me and i am considering him as a potential romantic interest,so i really need your opinion on this IQ.


We also have the following aspects:

His sun square my chiron(orb 2)

His venus conjunct my pluto(exact)
His venus square my north node/venus conjunction(orb 2)
His venus conjunct my valentine(exact)
His venus conjunct my IC(orb 2)

His saturn sextile my mars(orb 2.5)
His jupiter trine my destiny (orb 1)
His sun square my uranus (exact)
His neptune square my sun (orb 1.5)
His uranus trine my angel(orb 1)

His Osiris conjunct my saturn(orb 1)
My Osiris sextile his saturn(orb 1)

His valentine conjunct my Isis/descendant(orb 1)
His Isis conjunct my descendant/Isis(orb 2)

My karma trine his chiron(orb 1)
His karma square my chiron (orb 1)

Note:fated to cause hurt to each other?Is that what the above DW of chiron means?

His eros conjunct my moon (exact)

My karma trine his south node (Exact)
His karma trine my south node(orb 4)

His nessus trine my Alma (orb 1)
My Alma conjunct his neptune(orb 2)
His neptune square my nessus(orb 1)

His Aura conjunct my angel(exact)

his Atlantis opposite my karma (exact)

His karma/amor conjunct trine my ascendant(exact)
My amor opposite his venus (orb 2)


His saturn/angel/aphrodite(conjunction-exact) trine my mercury (orb 1)

Much help is appreciated.Thank you very much IQ


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Aubyanne
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posted March 09, 2015 01:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SATURN square EROS is different from the conjunction, Aurora. I wouldn't sweat the fact that you can't marry this person. Clearly that's not in the cards, and that's okay.

If we look back at JUNO as a counterpart to JUPITER, then she doesn't 'belong' with OSIRIS. Or, if we take her general meaning of 'commitment' to represent her here, then you would have a 'commitment' to 'divine masculinity' (as you said before).

When we have exact conjunctions between mismatched pairs, I tend to figure there's a deeper story. Perhaps another asteroid will aspect the two directly, within a very tight orb.

Don't despair. I've STILL not quite grasped the meaning of the exact conjunction I have in synastry of TISIPHONE and CHIRON. These can simply take awhile to fully grok.

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Aurora_girl1990
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posted March 14, 2015 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aurora_girl1990     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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iQ
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posted March 14, 2015 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Aurora:
Auby is right, there isn't much scope for a long term relationship here. Yes, Karma trine Ascendant is a Soulmate Indicator, but what type of a Soulmate? One who has done enough damage in the past and should be left alone in the present or someone who can be loving and caring? That is why we need to look at the complete Synastry and Composite.

The harsh aspects like Pluto square Dejanira, Neptune square Sun, Sun square Uranus and Sun square Chiron are guaranteed to feed the hurts than nurtured the love shown in some of the happier Asteroid aspects.

If such relationships are not to cause hurts, they are best after the couple is 45+ i.e midlife crisis is over and maturity sinks in to prevent hurting one another.

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Aurora_girl1990
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posted March 14, 2015 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aurora_girl1990     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iQ:
@Aurora:
Auby is right, there isn't much scope for a long term relationship here. Yes, Karma trine Ascendant is a Soulmate Indicator, but what type of a Soulmate? One who has done enough damage in the past and should be left alone in the present or someone who can be loving and caring? That is why we need to look at the complete Synastry and Composite.

The harsh aspects like Pluto square Dejanira, Neptune square Sun, Sun square Uranus and Sun square Chiron are guaranteed to feed the hurts than nurtured the love shown in some of the happier Asteroid aspects.

If such relationships are not to cause hurts, they are best after the couple is 45+ i.e midlife crisis is over and maturity sinks in to prevent hurting one another.


Alright.Thank you IQ
And thank you Aubyanne

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bonadea33
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posted June 21, 2015 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What for you need so many Asteroids for Synastry?
I put only Karma, Juno, Eros and sometimes Amor and that over enough.

I have seen that POF is very important, it shows, are they happy together.

Eben without Asteroids is very good to see good relationship. Saturn and Venus are sometimes enough.

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Sun in Taurus
Moon in Pisces
Ascendant Libra

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bonadea33
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posted June 21, 2015 08:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is Synastry Chart between Bo Derek and John Derek. No Asteroid at all:

Both Saturn have only good aspect, what means they stayed together until his death,

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Moon in Pisces
Ascendant Libra

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