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posted April 16, 2010 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm tipped off here by a recent article in Astropost, 'The Pholus Files' (Wednesday, April 14, 2010) http://astropost.blogspot.com

Here's some interesting info ~ read it and post how t.Pholus has impacted your life, and also in synastry: were there any major Pholus conj in relationships that had a "small cause and big effect"? Pholus to me so far seems to signify big changes with minor effort. Could be positive or negative. What do you think?

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This post is dedicated to Pholus. I have collected about 15 posts labelled ' Pholus' now. These posts show the 'Pholus-effect' in natal charts and in transit. Pholus is (just) an asteroid. Pholus was a centaur in the myths. In astrology Pholus is the symbol of turning points (of no return) - the catalyst - and of shooting your own foot... Pholus is there when a bottle is uncorked. That is the theory. And I think that the following examples are in line with the theory.

There is an interesting page on Wikipedia dedicated to Pholus. Pholus is linked to:
- the small start of a major event (like the butterfly and the huricane)
- a turning point (like the first domino stone in a range)
- a situation involving three generations at the time (grandparents, parents, children)
- curing addictions
- something happens that you can't get a hold on and that is escalating (like the first stone in a revolution)
- the catalyst (something that triggers a lot of events)
I read somewhere that Pholus might also reflect an intense Pluto. Pholus often seems to be mirroring sexual issues. Above you see the chart of Pope Benedict, with Pholus on Midheaven and transit Pholus square progressed Midheaven today...

As you can see on the web Pholus is very very small and orbs should be taken equally small. Pholus is one the additional objects that you can choose on Astro.com when you make a chart there.

EXAMPLES
Here are the examples of Pholus 'activities', taken from Astropost.blogspot.com, without the chart drawings and focussing on Pholus only. You can see all these post, the charts and complete texts by using the label ' Pholus' or by searching this blog with the tool on the left.

The examples are of Pholus with ...:
- Pholus + Sun: turning point in honour or lifestyle/health, something starts changing your life. In some cases the persons sex life was in the spotlight*)
- Pholus + Mercury: turning point in communications, something starts changing your ideas
- Pholus + Jupiter: turning point in conviction; something starts changing your convictions
- Pholus + Mars: turning point in a battle (and with the inconjunction: getting hurt!) or sexlife; something starts changing your drives and energy
- Pholus + Midheaven: turning point in a (domestic) career; something or someone changes your position in society
- Pholus + Venus: turning point in preferences or relations (with women); something or someone changes your preferences
- Pholus + Ascendant: coming out (at a certain point)
- Pholus in synastry: the strong influence of someone, changing your life in a direct way.


The points she mentions just above are good for transiting Pholus in your chart.

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posted April 16, 2010 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
more from Astropost,

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The example charts are those of Whoopy Goldberg, Berlusconi, John Lennon/Paul McCartney/Yoko Ono,
L.Ron Hubbard, Susan Boyle, Father Murphy, Maradonna, John Terry, John Boehner, John Sheehan, Dennis Kucinich, Ricky Martin and the Dresden bombing in WWII. I think that Susan Boyle's chart is the best example of them all: Pholus on Midheaven.

Tuesday, April 6, 2010
The Venus and Pholus of Whoopi Goldberg
Oops, Whoopi Goldberg confessed that she has been untrue, too! I couldn’t believe it just like that, I just had to see her chart. And there he was: Pholus, now conjunct her progressed Mercury (symbol of communications). It was perhaps a statement that was ‘ bubbling up’; sort of a message in bottle, uncorked just like that...
The conjunction of Progressed Mercury and natal Pholus reveals a mental turning point. Pholus is also semi sextile her progressed Sun and transit Saturn is semi square her natal Sun/Moon midpoint (and that might make her family life a little colder today).

Thursday, April 1, 2010
L.Ron Hubbard's chart (again)
LAFAYETTE RON HUBBARD, founder of Scientology, was born 13 March 1911, 2:01, Tilden, Nebraska USA. I had a look at his chart before (related to the chart of Tom Cruise, one of his followers), but it is almost Easter and time for fresh new looks, isn't it? Also, Scientology is news again (and Uranus is square his progressed Sun), and I like to see where Pholus is in charts.
Did you know that Jupiter is conjunct Pholus in his chart and that this is the tightest applying aspect? It is the reflection of a twist in conviction with a bubbling effect .
(....)
And that in 1951 when he turned from pop therapist to religious leader, transit Pholus was square progressed Sun.


Tuesday, March 30, 2010
Chart of Ricky Martin's coming out
Ricky Martin’s coming out is reflected by Pholus and Quaoar (now at 21d35m Sagittarius) on either side of the Descendant, both symbols of new realities and turning points like coming outs/breaking trough, things that come out of the closet, or ... important changes in general. Pholus is semi square AC/MC: there is a vital turning point. Progresses Sun/Moon is semi square transit Pluto for being motivated to transform (and for the stress that this change brings, too). There were at least 3 signs of changing times.

Berlusconi's winning chart
I have been reading Berlusconi's chart before , so I just refer to that today, now that he won the regional elections in spite of what the media predicted (maybe wishful thinking?). How come?
(There are a lot of astrological reasons, but this one is for Pholus):

Pholus sextile his progressed Mars on AC/MC
Easy twist of faith in a battle, but with the danger of shooting own feet.

It seems that easy aspects of Pholus help you win the polls.


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posted April 16, 2010 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Maradonna's dog bite

I don’t want to ' blame' Pholus for everything, now that I recently ‘ discovered’ this object. Fixed star Sirius also was important in the incident with Diego Maradonna's dog. Neptune contributed, too. And there were supporting transits avoiding worse than bitten lips. But still, transit Pholus is exactly inconjunct the natal Mars of Maradonna, now that he has been bitten by one of his own dogs. I think that bite might change the way that he plays (or fights) with his dogs form now on..
Other indications for getting hurt and animals are transit Neptune almost and transit Chiron exactly square the DD-rated Ascendant given by Astrodatabank.
Lucky besides: progressed Venus is conjunct natal Pholus, maybe that helped and so did transit Jupiter conjunct the Moon in Pisces (and square Mercury). Maradonna had some lucky stars on his side (though it might feel bad

With Sun conjunct Neptune there might be a tendency to be too close to animals in general, especially in times when progressed Mars is conjunct Sirius, like here. Sirius is one of the fixed stars related to dog bites (see http://www.constellationsofwords.com/Fixedstars.htm)

Sunday, March 28, 2010
Pholus and Susan Boyle
I am a Pholus-fan these days, so I post a lot about this astroid, without getting bored or tired, sorry! It is because I find so many examples that convince me of the effect: a turning point, starting change.
Today I had another look at the chart of Susan Boyle, who is moving out of the house that she has always been living in (with transit Uranus on top of her chart and Pholus sextile Midheaven. She is almost celebrating her birthday.

Here it is: Pholus on Midheaven.

Has there been a better example of a turning point like in the life of Susan Boyle, yet? Pholus is also quintile Venus: the turning point was related to talent in a creative way. And it was! In line with Pholus' meaning, it was like if the cork dropped off a bottle of champagne.

Father Lawrence Murphy's passions
Astrology and statistics never work the other way around. Here is an example of a priest who abused hundreds of boys without a Venus-Pluto aspect in the natal chart, like in the cases mentioned in an earlier post. However, Father Murphy (not the television character) had progressed Venus quindecile Pluto at age 25, when he became a priest. And he had Venus and Mars calling; that is for passion at any possible level, somehow and anyhow.

(...)

PLUTO AND PHOLUS: TURNING POINTS AND TRANSFORMATION
Now we have the portrait of a priest who is forbidden to have sex, a priest with passion at any possible level. With so much passion and drive, perhaps with homosexual fantasies he became the father (Saturn rising before the Sun, conjunct Saturn) of many poor boys with the restriction that he shouldn’t marry, during a transit of Saturn square natal Sun in 1950 and progressed Sun inconjunct natal Pluto. That was also with transit Pholus conjunct his progressed Venus: a turning point in love, preferences, and in the way that he dealt with women. Transit Pluto was square progressed Mars in that year, too. Who knows what happened? The two forces of his passion (preference/desire and drive) came together with the two forces of change (Pholus and Pluto) in the year that he was down or being restricted while his life (progressed Sun) changed (Pluto) in a disproportionate way (inconjunction).

In 1952 he started the abuse, he said. That was when progressed Mars reached the Sun-Saturn conjunction and sex (Mars) came into his life as a father. In 1952 Progressed Mercury was conjunct Pholus and transit Pholus was semi square the natal Sun: there was a twist of mind and a frustrating turning point in life and sex was being highlighted after efforts to control the drive.


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posted April 16, 2010 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Wednesday, March 24, 2010
Pholus, Quaoar and The Beatles

The Beatles were a turning point in the history of music and they shaped a new reality in the business of entertainment. Maybe that is why Pholus and Quaoar are so important in the charts of the main songwriters of the group.

PHOLUS
Pholus seems to be the symbol of the turning point, a moment in life to remember. John Lennon and Paul McCartney both lost their mother when they were teenagers. That is something that they share. Their charts have an A-rating in Astrodatank and that is not an AA-rated chart, but if they are correct, these are the similarities related to Pholus, the lost of their mother and the impact of their careers in music.
Pholus is in the 4th house (also a house related to a parent) of Paul McCartney.
Pholus is on top of John Lennon’s chart (in the 10th house, a parental house), semi square AC/MC and square natal Sun: his life is strongly and possibly in a challenging way, connected to the symbol of Pholus and what this asteroid is representing.

Progressed ruler 1 and 10 (Mercury) was inconjunct Pholus when Lennon’s mother died.
Transit Pholus was sesquisqare progressed AC/MC of McCartney when his mother died.
This is marking a crucial turning point.

It doesn’t surprise me much that Yoko Ono’s Pholus is exactly on the IC, square the Ascendant in the 9th degree of Capricorn (same pattern as John has), quindecile the Midheaven of Paul McCartney and less than 2 degrees from the MC of John Lennon. Pholus, the issue of the turning point, joined their lives.

Monday, March 22, 2010
John Boehner's Pholus
Hell, no! John Boehner, leader of the Republicans, yesterday. But there was a yes…That happens with his progressed Sun conjunct natal Pholus, reflecting that he is on a turning point in life. And it happened with transit Uranus quindecile Mars (for rather obsessed short fused anger).

Friday, March 19, 2010
The Pholus of John J. Sheehan
With Pholus in the air it seems to be easy sometimes to shoot in your own foot, like Pholus did...
Pholus' name looks a bit like phallus. I read somewhere that Pholus works like a strong shot of Pluto. Perhaps that is why this is the second example of sex as the catalyst of a lot of fuss. The first one was John Terry's transit Pholus conjunct natal Sun. John Terry's Pholus transit highlighted his personal sex life. Former general John Sheehan's Venus opposition Pholus was triggered by a Pholus transit(not a conjunction) yesterday. He spoke of the sex life of others. Opposition often deal with 'others' and their effect on you.

Former general John J. Sheehan (with Sun conjunct Mars, Pluto rising before Sun and Venus and Mars semi-sextile Pluto) is a real macho and has his preferences. He is strongly against homosexuals in the army. And he bases that on experience, he said. He attributes the fall of Sebrenica to homosexuals in the Dutch army. Yesterday he told the Senate Armed Services Comity that ‘the Dutch’ also told him so and named one “Hankman Berman" as his source. The former chief of staff Henk van Breemen, denies to have said so. You can see Sheehan and what he said on this video:

Now: was this Pholus (again)? Yes indeed.

Pholus has a prominent position on the day of birth of Sheehan: all alone against all others
…and in strong opposition with the planet of love and preferences: Venus!

Right now transit Pholus is making aspects with 4 positions in his natal chart.
Transit Pholus is now in the 16th degree of Sagittarius (15+) and that is inconjunct the natal Pholus and progressed Pholus and …transit Pholus is the Apex of a Yod with the radix Venus and the Jupiter-Saturn conjunction of Sheehan. In the natal chart of Sheehan Pholus is sesquisquare the Sun, opposition Venus and trine Jupiter and Saturn within less than 1 degree orb. So this transit of Pholus hits the Sun (105d), too.

Wednesday, March 17, 2010
Dennis Kucinich changes his mind: Pholus?
Now that I am in the mood for Pholus, I see Pholus everywhere. I see Pholus in the chart of Dennis Kucinich now that transit Pholus is sextile his Sun and trine his Ascendant, now that he changed his mind about the Health Care Bill, not because it is the best bill there is, but because he doesn't want to stand in the way of progress. See The Huffington Post.... That is substantial change during the transit of Pholus. Robert von Heeren mentions 'a turning point in life' for this transit and in this case he is certainly right.

Dresden, Pholus and Varuna
Not more than 200.000 but 25.000 people of different nationalities (Germans and prisoners) were killed during the bombings of Dresden on February 13, 14 and 15 1945, an investigation team found out and published in an official report. It happened decades ago and Dresden has been restored, but at the time it must have been like living hell. Many of the bombs were incendiaries and they created a fire storm. The bombing has always been controversial, because of the number of lost lives of civilians. Pholus, Varuna and Uranus were in tight aspect with the meridian of that moment in wartime, reflecting destruction.

The first bomb was dropped at 22:13 CET. The chart of that moment has Uranus semi square Midheaven. Pholus is exactly opposition Midheaven and square Varuna.

John Terry (again): Pholus?
John Terry is in the news again, see Times online ...He was breathalysed after coliding with the car of a Chelsea security staff memeber, leaving the man with a broken leg. He went on driving and later went to the police. Should it be the effect of transit Pholus on the natal Sun? Pholus*) seems to have the effect of Pluto, but harder.
*) 'unusual and thoughtless action', that is what I read in the interesting article about Pholus (one of the Centaurs) on Kentauren.info.
*) Pholus is on 19th Century King William II of the Netherlands' Sun now that his extravagant sexlife is being highlighted on tele. Pholus is also on the Sun of John Terry (cheated his wife with his best friends' partner)


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Initially I was skeptical even after reading her research so I looked at some of my charts.
Haha gobsmacked because the relationship that had the biggest impact on my life, tho little did I know of it at the time, has a DW of Sun conj Pholus.

Check it out in your synastries too, any interesting finds?

What about t.Pholus, what's it tinkering around with in your chart?

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posted April 16, 2010 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Pholus links the orbits of Saturn and Neptune.
Saturn/Neptune midpoint is said to be Pholus-sensitive. That means that aspects to Saturn/Neptune midpoint is like aspects to Pholus.

I have Moon oppose Saturn/Neptune midpoint with 17 minutes of arc myself.

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posted April 16, 2010 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks! I'm going to see what Pholus is doing in my chart (if anything).

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posted April 16, 2010 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
T. Nep and chiron are on my n.pholus exact right now. I wonder what that means...


Any ideas? I didn't see neptune on that list.


t. pholus is on my n.venus with a one degree orb!

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Hi RayRay
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I have Moon oppose Saturn/Neptune midpoint with 17 minutes of arc myself.

How do you think this plays out for you?

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posted April 16, 2010 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
definitely the experiences of my mother having chronic health issues, addictions (both drugs and alcohol), and my avoiding that stuff.

grounding idealism,spirituality,inspiration so that it's more practical.


Alpha PiscIs Austrinus star,Fomalhaut is exactly opposite the Saturn/Neptune midpoint. Therefore, my Moon conjuncts Fomalhaut with 17 minutes of arc. I can't help thinking that themes of Fomalhaut and Saturn/Neptune midpoint are connected to each other in my life.

One of the decriptions for Fomalhaut's meaning is "It is said to be very fortunate and powerful and yet to cause malevolence of sublime scope and character, and change from a material to a spiritual form of expression"


change from a material to a spiritual form of expression looks like Saturn/Neptune

My Moon oppose Saturn/Neptune is a corresponding midpoint picture of my T-square of Moon squares Saturn-Neptune opposition.


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posted April 16, 2010 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahh Chiron pretty much throws me for a loop, all I know is that I hate when mine receives conj in synastry lol.

T. Neptune on n.Pholus..I think natal pholus is a point that needs a trigger, like transits or synastry, with t. neptune i'd guess a new spiritual discipline that would be a result from dealing with past wounds, so there would be a domino effect there where making one step in the right direction has a therapeutic effect. Does this make sense? Poss t. neptune could also cloud the issue (nept) to where you go to make changes (pholus) but they could be instigated without properly thinking them through (nept) because you may be working through past wounds (chiron) so your pain may be clouding the decision making process.

I'm really hypothesizing here because I'm still trying to figure this out

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posted April 16, 2010 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks! Yeah, I don't know what to make of pholus in transit, etc.


I think pholus moves very slowly, so I don't think it's useful in synastry, but who knows...

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OMG Diana! 1 degree! What do you think, anything you can relate to? What house(s) does Venus rule>?

(off topic)
p.s. I'm looking at Karma in synastries and am seeing lots of conj, for ex. my Karma conj my daughter's Asc and her father's NN! And her Karma conj my SN/Venus, I forgot where his is at. Can you believe it? I mean I know you can, but still lol. We also have my NN conj his Asc conj her Merc. I'm starting to see Karma with the same frequency that I see the nodes actually.

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posted April 16, 2010 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For those interested t.Pholus is @ 15 deg Sagittarius, Rx. It's moving so far at about 1 degree per month so it is quite slow. In september it turns direct @ 11 Sagittarius.

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definitely the experiences of my mother having chronic health issues, addictions (both drugs and alcohol), and my avoiding that stuff.

So this would be the turning point, your Pholus-sensitive saturn/neptune midpoint opposed the Moon (mom).

Interesting thanks

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Pholus' orbital period is
91.85 yrs.

That's faster than Neptune and Pluto.
It's only slower than Uranus by 7 years.

"In september it turns direct @ 11 Sagittarius."

My Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis is in 11'14 Gemini/Sagittarius


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Wow, Raymond, so some big changes on the work/home front. Could this be related to your activism I wonder? gemini is putting out the msg, just being the messenger while sagittarius has the responsibility of the message and sees the big picture beyond it. What do you think?

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I looked at the position of my Pholus as well as its nodes which have to do with collective matters. Heliocentric Nodes move much slower than the Geocentric Nodes,and so they are more collective.


Pholus in 29'19 Aquarius
conjunct Moon/Mars midpoint in 29'32 Aquarius

Transiting Neptune is in 28'10 Aquarius right now, and it will conjuncts my Pholus within 1 degree soon.


Geocentric North Pholus Node in 5'31 Leo
square Sun in 5'20 Scorpio
square Ixion in 5'25 Scorpio

(This might fit in with my drug addict/dealer biological father)

Geocentric South Pholus Node in 27'11 Capricorn
trine Juno in 26'26 Virgo

(I wonder what this would mean in regards to relationship partner

Heliocentric Pholus Nodes in 28'59 Cancer/Capricorn
not aspecting any major planets nor any major asteroids,dwarf planets,dwarf planet candidates


In Right Ascension:
Pholus in 6'50 Pisces
conjunct Moon in 4'24 Pisces
square Jupiter in 6'37 Sagittarius


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I checked the Ephemeris

Pholus goes stationary direct on August 24th in 11'33 Sagittarius.

After that, it will be separating from opposing/conjunct my Imum Coeli axis.

Transneptunian dwarf planet candidate,Sedna goes stationary retrograde on August 23rd in 22'33 Taurus.
http://www.true-node.com/eph1/

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posted April 17, 2010 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Raymond, I think we speak different languages But I like your input ~ you are *such* the Virgo rising

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not really

I just like to look at things from multiple angles and consider alternative views. I also like to explore things that are outside the norm that many people don't look into.


I really don't fit with Virgo much except for worrying,fussing over stuff,and caring about health to a certain extent
(but then again..I have Hygeia contraparallel my Virgo Ascendant)

I am a prudish type
but that could be indicated by my Sun in Virgo Constellation


Paying attention to detail,neatness, and organization are actually weaknesses of mine. Those are things that I struggled to learn just like I struggled to learn language and motor skills.

I hate making mistakes. I try to avoid making mistakes as much as possible. That's more about my not wanting to appear stupid to others which tends to manifest as social anxiety in regards to fear of negative evaluation. I developed compensatory strategies to minimize mistakes as much as possible. I reflect about stuff before I put it into words. I will over it and proof read it before I post. A lot of times, I go back and edit my posts when I notice mistakes that I make. I like to correct my stuff before others correct me or are puzzled by something that I wrote or find something contradicting. I am a very rightbrained type that is mainly visual,picture thinker and that interferes with left hemisphere processing. However,I use my right hemisphere strengths to compensate for my left hemisphere weaknesses.


I think of the Ascendant is more about how I am seen by others which is not really not who I am. Yes..I do dress in a way that I don't stand out. I can dress very neatly,and I think that was because of my stepfather who was such a neat freak was always getting on me. He conditioned me to be that way.

my Ascendant is modified by a conjunction to transneptunian dwarf planet,Haumea with 2'10. People that met me in person can tell that I am unusual in some way, especially
when I was in school,miliary,and with psychiatrists.


Sometimes I dislike Mainstream Astrology because I feel people can take people for granted based on what they see from the tropical zodiac signs and the 20th Century view. I am very strong in the 21st Century objects and others things that many astrologers don't consider which I feel give a better description of my personality.

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posted April 17, 2010 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahhh! That entire reply is *completely* Virgo!

I'm a Pisces Sun so you know I love ya

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Glaucus
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posted April 17, 2010 01:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

shrugs

I just see my reply as a detailed explanation so I won't be understood.

Being understood,appearing competent,and not looking stupid is always the basis of how I communicate to others. It's something that's just became automatic for me.

What reflects that is

Saturn in Gemini R in 9th is also oppose Jupiter and Neptune in 3rd squared by Moon in Pisces in 6th - T-Square. I have Sun quincunx Saturn.
My Saturn is less than 7 degrees from the Midheaven, in one of the Gauquelin sectors.

In declinations:
Saturn contraparallel Mercury-Venus-Neptune

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posted April 17, 2010 01:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Raymond, what degree is your Saturn?

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Glaucus
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posted April 17, 2010 01:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

5'08 Gemini R

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A Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind.

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