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nowonders
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posted February 17, 2021 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nowonders     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
where r your placements? and what does it manifest as?

my aphrodite conjunct virgo mars in 6h (ooh tight tight 0 degree) but i don't feel it hahah, maybe feel freaky sometimes, i guess ppl sense this but it's placebo maybe

my eros cap 10h, i think this makes sense that i agree on relationships with material gain possibly with little feelings, like sugar daddy type is v fine to me, and genuinely believe there's no true love so relationships must lead to some tangible gains. money rich ppl turns me on hahah sry for language

sidenote, bml sextile asc so maybe it makes me seem freaky too, out of topic tho

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posted February 17, 2021 01:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome to LL and the asteroid discussion forum nowonders.


In my chart I feel it's my male/female energy within. It seems linked for me.

eros 433
adonis 2101
You can include Adonis: http://macblog.mcmaster.ca/fryeblog/2009/10/10/archetypes-eros-and-adonis/
cupid
Aphrodite 1388

My Aphrodite +Adonis are 13@ Libra
 cnj 14deg Paradise 2791
 Trine Tianjin  2209 "Heavenly crossing"

  Aspect between my  *Cupido/Cupido (763)  square   h10/h2
Cupido 763 cnj Mercury by 1 deg
Eros in scorpio  h12


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posted February 17, 2021 03:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nowonders     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MoonMystic:
Welcome to LL and the asteroid discussion forum nowonders.


In my chart I feel it's my male/female energy within. It seems linked for me.

eros 433
adonis 2101
You can include Adonis: http://macblog.mcmaster.ca/fryeblog/2009/10/10/archetypes-eros-and-adonis/
cupid
Aphrodite 1388

My Aphrodite +Adonis are 13@ Libra
 cnj 14deg Paradise 2791
 Trine Tianjin  2209 "Heavenly crossing"

  Aspect between my  *Cupido/Cupido (763)  square   h10/h2
Cupido 763 cnj Mercury by 1 deg
Eros in scorpio  h12



wow hi i'm very new to asteroids so it'll take me some time haha! which one of ur placement do u feel particularly outspoken? like, it' s observable?

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posted February 17, 2021 03:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Eros closely conjunct my Capricorn Descendant angle... suffice to say I’m really into Others, one-on-one, at least, prefer they embody it, interact me with like so. I have no hang-ups about sex yet its mandatory for me, to actually consider myself in a relationship with someone, that Eros-style of relating is recognized, paramount.

Also, aside from the commitment, notably, people I relate to want my desire, my sex. I had a close friend, a woman, that I eventually had to point out to her/us that a physical act is not something I was able to offer her in relief; knowing that our conflicts at the time were caused due to not fully consummating with her the Eros-experience of my style of relating. Plainly told her, actual sex is relative to this underlying frustration of purpose/build-up within undivided attention but I don’t want to go there. I pointed it out so she had a clue it was time to find a partner and not be mad/confuse our deep friendship as a complete package; which she did find shortly thereafter. Not the first time this has happened, so I’ve learned to be as mindful as possible socially.

My ex had his Saturn on my DC/Eros... probably the only time in my life that Eros became a task. Looking back, I spent more time than I like to admit subconsciously doing energy work on his behalf during the act. It was hard to enjoy it purely for my self. Despite living together, it fell onto his routine- he would deny me sex for whatever reason or it felt usually only on his time. I made due with what I had.

With my old flame, his Neptune is on my DC/Eros, and we attempt tantra consciously. Or at the least {when he’s in my bubble} engages with me for hours, multiple times in the day - time/task doesn’t exist. F*cking after-say eating a sandwich somehow becomes *special* {to me} in its own rite. lmao

Vesta is conjunct my 8H Moon, (also Cancer rising) so sacred sexuality with a partner is my MO, and I’m typically chaste in spite of being divinely-dtf

I had to use synastry examples to explain my natal placement because that’s where it goes. True Lilith is conjunct my Sun/MC. In asteroid-counterpart fashion, 5H Scorpio Psyche, more of the same.

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posted February 17, 2021 05:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some infos:

« Asteroid Eros: Demetra George states that Eros was "a primal, phallic god born out of Chaos (the Void) at the beginning of time." He was later known as the son of Mars and Venus and was considered ruler of sexual desire. Ideally Eros is supposed to represent the tantric path of transforming instinctual sexual drive into skilled erotic love as a way to enlightenment. Beyond that, Eros is that which "turns us on", an emotional force that drives the desire for physical, sexual consummation.

In a chart Eros would symbolize our passion, that which sexually attracts us, our sexual preference and the primal font of desire-energy. A person with a strong Eros would be moved to periodically re-create the experience of finding and being in love A well-represented Eros seeks regular physical contact with others, especially involving sex. Add charisma and the ability to charm anyone, especially if Eros is conjunct the Ascendant, Venus or Mars. Eros conjunct Sun, Moon, Venus or Mars can be quite liberal with their favors when circumstances permit. According to astrologer Zane Stein, if one person's Eros makes an aspect to another person's planet, then the Eros person is smitten with the planet person and planet person often returns the feeling, even if his Eros makes no reciprocal aspect.

Eros shows our longing for completeness and along with Amor provides clues for finding a "soul mate". By aspect to another's planets or points, it can also symbolize the force of love which can change that person's life. Transiting Eros can be a harbinger of the new love affair or signal the appearance of sudden attractions, erotic feelings, thoughts and dreams. Astrologer Kim Falconers's delineations of Eros by house, sign and aspect are recommended as a valuable resource for interpretation.

Martha Lang-Wescott mentions Eros retrograde as denoting a state where the sexual interests and compulsions of other people to which one is sexually attracted, create difficulty as in when a partner seeks satisfaction through internet porn instead of with an actual person. There can also be repression of the sex drive on occasion, sexual dysfunction, premature sexual experiences or a tendency to seek outlets for unconventional sexual fulfillment. Eros in quincunx aspect can represent guilt and over-reaction towards the sexual experience; a waning quincunx can show that others make you feel that you should do more to please the partner sexually. Actress Elizabeth Taylor, known for her sensual and seductive roles in cinema, has Eros at 4° Pisces 38', right between her natal Mars at 1°Pisces 33' and Sun-Mercury at 7° Pisces; all located in her third house of basic communications. This combination is given public focus by an opposition to dreamy and cinematic Neptune and asteroid Psyche, both retrograde at 6° Virgo in Elizabeth's tenth house of career and public life.»

« What is the god of love all about? The name itself is the ancient Greek word for erotic love, although its meaning is not necessarily sexual. Eros to the Greeks meant a merging of the souls in such a way that it created a lasting transformation. It can happen in any situation of great intimacy, emotional risk, taboo passion or creative expression. Harriet Eisman describes Eros in current terms.
http://www.falconastrology.com/discovery.htm

"Eros brings beauty, meaning and divinity into our lives. It comes to us through a very particular epiphany, a passionate inspiration present in a particular lover, teacher, melody, or landscape. We long to follow it always. But this is not the whole story. For Eros also brings us obsessions, cruelty, abandonment, and betrayal. It may come through anguish…”

Eros is about merging with the beloved to create change, because we must. With Eros, there is great risk, danger, and often compulsion, whether the beloved is an individual, a creative project or an icon of the divine. When Eros meets in two charts, no mater how unaffected the other planets are, something begins to brew beneath the surface. Given a chance to operate, a potent energy is always unleashed.

Venus and Eros may initially seem indistinguishable in the horoscope. Both are deities of love and represent involvement with another person or creative pursuit. Both are closely linked in mythology as well. Yet, they are not the same. By understanding the differences between these two deities, mythically and psychically, the distinction in the horoscope becomes clear.

Venus, as goddess of love, entices us to relate according to her pleasure, described by sign, house and aspect placement. Venus says come hither to connect, choose, indulge, have sex or social interactions and experience loveliness. Where Venus rules in the chart, we find our orientation towards and desire for socially significant relationships, values and appreciation of beauty.

Eros is the god of love. Originally, he predates Venus/Aphrodite, creating the manifest world long before she emerges from the sea. Later, he is Venus’s son, doing her bidding by causing others to fall in love. Sometimes he operates solely on his own, inducing his victims to fall into the madness of divine passion, not by choice or desire, but by fate. Venus may rely on his help, requesting assistance or demanding action, but it is Eros who fires the arrow! Once pierced, even the gods could not deny Love.»

« According to Richard Idemon, the seduction of Eros occurs: "when two or more separate entities combine in such a way that they are totally transformed by the experience."

Scorpio and Eros are often typically associated with sex and sexuality. However, Idemon reminds us that (unfortunately) not all sexuality is truly "erotic..." Not all experiences of our sexuality are truly transformative. And eroticism(contrary to popular belief) does not necessarily involve sexual union with another person...

Death of Ego
Eros always involves death of the ego, emotional merging and shared transformation with another entity. For example - the passion ofEroscan take place between the artist and the erotic object of her/his art."

Likewise, the emotional catharsis we experience in a crowded movie theater full of strangers will most likely be more truly erotic than a meaningless "jump in the hay" with a stranger.»
http://starsignstyle.com/asteroid-eros-in-astrology/


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posted February 17, 2021 08:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aphrodite is more of a pure love. Eros is the erotic. I have Eros conj Venus so it is more hidden than if it conjuncts the ASC, which makes people overtly sexy.

Aphrodite conj the ASC makes people beautiful.

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posted February 17, 2021 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nowonders     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

thx! i guess my life's too short to have any exp yet. i find ppl being obsessed with reading synastry chart which i sometimes don't understand but that actually tells a lot abt the dynamics, esp warning signs...but yes this gave me some insight on how eros affect couple's sex life i just wish mine won't be too chaotic haha, my ero in cap 10h doesn't seem like good placement already...

also sidenote i'm scorpio venus 8h so i kinda relate to ur words, sex is holy, but i don't reli believe in true love (venus sq neptune) as in, love will 100% bring me pain and no one deserve my love haha i'm too weak to fall straight in and be played

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posted February 17, 2021 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nowonders     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Aphrodite is more of a pure love. Eros is the erotic. I have Eros conj Venus so it is more hidden than if it conjuncts the ASC, which makes people overtly sexy.

Aphrodite conj the ASC makes people beautiful.


umm i saw this b4! my aphrodite prob affect my actions more than appearance then haha i'm not pretty. also i reckon eros conj venus makes someone value sex more? not overly, my aqua venus frds r borderline asexual if not with aggressive mars...

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posted February 17, 2021 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey nowonders, mind editing out the quote? I don’t like to be quoted 😌 especially considering the topic

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posted February 17, 2021 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Aphrodite is more of a pure love. Eros is the erotic. I have Eros conj Venus so it is more hidden than if it conjuncts the ASC, which makes people overtly sexy.

Aphrodite conj the ASC makes people beautiful.


Ami Anne,
Do you know of any public people (celebrities) with that aspect? Eros/asc.

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posted February 17, 2021 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know some non public people but you could google it. It is a certain erotic look that is somewhat subtle but not too subtle. It is more subtle than Lilith conj the ASC who has a ho look

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posted February 19, 2021 03:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks

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posted February 19, 2021 04:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eternal Energy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That Lilith on the Ascendant or on the Midheaven, those two places that are visible to others, can so easily be misunderstood...

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posted February 19, 2021 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The ASC loves the sexual attention. The MC resents it cuz she wants to be liked for her mind

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posted February 19, 2021 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eternal Energy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let's say for example that when people see this Lilith they don't say anything, they don't do anything and she's always the first to say something, to do something, so as to make them understand that she's also human like everybody else.

This is what I mean when I say that she is being misunderstood. Getting all the attention doesn't mean that she always has to be the one to decide if she wants to talk to you. You can be the first as well, at least try.

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posted February 19, 2021 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What was your user name before, EE? I don't really understand what you mean about Lilith. The ASC one struts her stuff--like "I am so great"

The MC says" Love me for my mind, not my hot bod"

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posted February 19, 2021 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eternal Energy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm so sorry for the confusion Ami Anne. I never meant to. I was talking about the MC Lilith. Of course she wants to be loved both for her outside and her inside. It's just that others hesitate to get closer. They leave her to decide if she wants them to get closer (from my perspective).

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posted February 19, 2021 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know about that but they usually have an aloofness that says" Don't touch"

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posted February 19, 2021 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eternal Energy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know...Maybe you are right...

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posted February 20, 2021 04:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nowonders     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Eternal Energy:
Let's say for example that when people see this Lilith they don't say anything, they don't do anything and she's always the first to say something, to do something, so as to make them understand that she's also human like everybody else.

This is what I mean when I say that she is being misunderstood. Getting all the attention doesn't mean that she always has to be the one to decide if she wants to talk to you. You can be the first as well, at least try.


u mean lilith-asc makes someone "assertive"? ppl around me r always passive and not speaking so i'll be active to answer almost all the time. also "misunderstood" as in being cold/btchy then yea

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