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Topic: Is this proof the Virgin Queen was an imposter in drag?
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Lexxigramer Moderator Posts: 4890 From: The Etheric Realms...Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat...& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion! Registered: Feb 2012
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posted June 10, 2013 12:28 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2337774/Is-proof-Virgin-Queen-imposter-drag-Shocking-new-theory-Elizabeth-I-unearthed-historic-manuscripts.html ------------------ NumeroLexigrams ~I remember, therefore I am immortal ~Lexxigramer My Lexigramming Biography/over 1/2 a century to date Lexigramming IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 71259 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 11, 2013 10:13 AM
Interesting.IP: Logged |
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posted June 12, 2013 02:16 PM
As usual with the daily mail take their articles with a pinch of salt.it's sad enough that the woman spent her life alone, now this? other texts of the time showed that her caretakers as a child, were horrible people, but the details of the stories show that she was definitely female.... IP: Logged |
Jovian Knowflake Posts: 600 From: US Registered: May 2012
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posted June 13, 2013 05:42 PM
Ha! Interesting.Sounds like it would have been incredible to pull this off, what with there being so many attendants to royalty, etc. I thought this comment someone made at that page was considerate of all the ways it is implausible: "This is not a new theory. It was a documentary about it a few months ago and it was shown to be utter rubbish. The legend itself is not new and is just to sell tickets at the house. Henry would have noticed had his daughter not been a daughter as would those around her. Her every private movement was commented on and there were no secrets about the body or the bodily functions of the Tudors. She would have been unable to conceal the fact that she was a man and her servants would have whispered about it: even had they sworn secrecy. Cecil had her spied on and her bleeding reported on to see if she could have a chid: she could not even go to the loo without her movements being made public. Her doctors would also have noticed had she not been a woman. Just because she was a strong leader does not mean she was not a woman. Utter rubbish: but not a new theory. Sorry" But, all the strange comments "she" is recorded as having made, about having the mind of a king, and her being sworn to not marry, etc. is indeed peculiar. And the stories of there being some secret kept, through the ages. And those portraits do seem mannish. ...Maybe the hermaphrodite angle has legs?
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Lei_Kuei Moderator Posts: 1366 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 17, 2013 01:03 PM
quote: ‘Elizabeth’s grave has never been breached,’ Berry says. ‘Now it’s time to open it up and see what’s in there.’
Good lord...
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 71259 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 18, 2013 02:39 PM
Crazy!IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 71259 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 07, 2013 09:19 AM
Still wonder how true this is.IP: Logged |
Lexxigramer Moderator Posts: 4890 From: The Etheric Realms...Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat...& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion! Registered: Feb 2012
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posted October 07, 2013 07:03 PM
Well if they exhume the remains and study/test them; then there should be some answers.IP: Logged |
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 3538 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted October 29, 2013 08:15 PM
The attendants are the giveaway, good one JovianShe didn't even get dressed by herself. How many people do you think would not tell a soul having witnessed her being a he? Far more believable are the rumours that she had a child with Robert Dudley, and those have never been proved either. And JFT is so right about the Mail...though there are rumours they get something right once a year. Still, exhumation might answer both questions once and for all from an article about forensics The pelvis area is another good way of differentiating between the sexes. A female will have a larger sub-pubic angle to that of a man and this is obviously indicative of child bearing requirements in the female that are not required in the male of the species. This difference is noticeable across all species in nature where birth is from the womb. The male's sub-pubic area is less than ninety degrees whilst the female's is more. The area around the pelvic inlet (in the middle of the pelvic bone) is larger in females than in men again with relevance to child bearing. The skeleton of a female who has given birth will be identifiable by the fact that this space will have widened upon the birth of a child and although it will contract it will not contract fully back to its original size. http://www.exploreforensics.co.uk/determining-sex.html IP: Logged |
Hemilla Knowflake Posts: 429 From: Winterfell Registered: May 2015
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posted September 01, 2016 03:52 PM
judging by her suposed death mask...her skull looks pretty much like female oneIP: Logged |
todd Knowflake Posts: 1088 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted September 02, 2016 10:54 PM
This is a little off topic but I don't want to start a thread. It involves queen Victoria she is known to have passed on hemophilia to her off springs. Hemophilia is a heretitary disease. But there is no record of hemophilia in her bloodlines, so where did hemophilia come from? ToddIP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 71259 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 03, 2016 12:40 PM
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Hemilla Knowflake Posts: 429 From: Winterfell Registered: May 2015
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posted September 04, 2016 04:06 PM
quote: Originally posted by todd: This is a little off topic but I don't want to start a thread. It involves queen Victoria she is known to have passed on hemophilia to her off springs. Hemophilia is a heretitary disease. But there is no record of hemophilia in her bloodlines, so where did hemophilia come from? Todd
She married a cousin - enough to mess up genetics IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 71259 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 06, 2016 11:25 AM
Indeed.IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 71259 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 07, 2016 05:18 PM
That'll do it.IP: Logged |
todd Knowflake Posts: 1088 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted September 07, 2016 07:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: That'll do it.
that won't do it as there must be a sign of the disease. marrying your cousin doesn't create hemophilia . todd IP: Logged |
Lexxigramer Moderator Posts: 4890 From: The Etheric Realms...Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat...& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion! Registered: Feb 2012
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posted September 16, 2016 03:47 PM
http://www.hemophilia.org/Bleeding-Disorders/Types-of-Bleeding-Disorders/Hemophilia-A quote: Hemophilia A, also called factor VIII (FVIII) deficiency or classic hemophilia, is a genetic disorder caused by missing or defective factor VIII, a clotting protein. Although it is passed down from parents to children, about 1/3 of cases are caused by a spontaneous mutation, a change in a gene.According to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, hemophilia occurs in approximately 1 in 5,000 live births. There are about 20,000 people with hemophilia in the US. All races and ethnic groups are affected. Hemophilia A is four times as common as hemophilia B while more than half of patients with hemophilia A have the severe form of hemophilia.
http://www.hemophilia.org/Bleeding-Disorders/Types-of-Bleeding-Disorders/Hemophilia-B quote: Hemophilia B, also called factor IX (FIX) deficiency or Christmas disease, is a genetic disorder caused by missing or defective factor IX, a clotting protein. Although it is passed down from parents to children, about 1/3 of cases are caused by a spontaneous mutation, a change in a gene.According to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, hemophilia occurs in approximately 1 in 5,000 live births. There are about 20,000 people with hemophilia in the US. All races and ethnic groups are affected. Hemophilia B is four times less common than hemophilia A.
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todd Knowflake Posts: 1088 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted October 21, 2016 02:47 PM
just a bit of trivia. when queen Elizabeth died she had a inch of makeup plastered on her face as her vanity was so extreme. toddIP: Logged |
Lexxigramer Moderator Posts: 4890 From: The Etheric Realms...Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat...& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion! Registered: Feb 2012
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posted October 25, 2016 05:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by todd: just a bit of trivia. when queen Elizabeth died she had a inch of makeup plastered on her face as her vanity was so extreme. todd
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