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Faith
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posted June 05, 2016 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith        Reply w/Quote
I'm a little tired of the pro-vaccination hysterics. Like this:
http://vaxtruth.org/2014/09/the-dirty-filthy-unvaccinated/

It's getting pretty darn weird out there, with unvaccinated children being treated like ticking time bombs. Let's just look at what's actually happening:

In America: 69 doses of vaccines by age 18. http://www.nvic.org/CMSTemplates/NVIC/pdf/49-Doses-PosterB.pdf

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The United States requires infants to receive 26 vaccines (the most in the world) yet more than 6 U.S. infants die per every 1,000 live births. In contrast, Sweden and Japan administer 12 vaccines to infants, the least amount, and report less than 3 deaths per 1,000 live births.

Studies show that the countries with the most vaccines have the worst infant death rate

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The infant mortality rate (IMR) is one of the most important indicators of the socio-economic well-being and public health conditions of a country. The US childhood immunization schedule specifies 26 vaccine doses for infants aged less than 1 year—the most in the world—yet 33 nations have lower IMRs. Using linear regression, the immunization schedules of these 34 nations were examined and a correlation coefficient of r = 0.70 (p < 0.0001) was found between IMRs and the number of vaccine doses routinely given to infants. Nations were also grouped into five different vaccine dose ranges: 12–14, 15–17, 18–20, 21–23, and 24–26. The mean IMRs of all nations within each group were then calculated. Linear regression analysis of unweighted mean IMRs showed a high statistically significant correlation between increasing number of vaccine doses and increasing infant mortality rates, with r = 0.992 (p = 0.0009).

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3170075/

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Feb. 16, 2010 -- Chronic childhood health problems such as obesity, asthma, and learning and behavioral problems are on the rise, more than doubling over a 12-year period, according to a new study.

Chronic health conditions were found in 12.8% of children studied in 1994, compared with 26.6% of another group of same-aged children studied in 2006, the researchers found.

''We knew before we started this study that childhood chronic diseases were generally on the rise," says study researcher Jeanne Van Cleave, MD, a pediatrician at Mass General Hospital for Children and an instructor of pediatrics at Harvard Medical School in Boston.

"But this study really gives a better picture," she tells WebMD. That's partly because the researchers were able to study three groups of children over time to better figure out what was happening.

As bleak as the findings may sound, Van Cleave tells WebMD she sees a bright spot: ''The most important finding is that a lot of children will have chronic conditions during childhood, but a lot of these conditions will go away, will resolve over time."



http://www.webmd.com/children/news/20100216/rise-in-childhood-health-problems

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But it’s not just that Americans are getting sicker—it’s that young Americans are getting sicker. A 2013 report by the National Research Council and Institute of Medicine (NAC/IOM) echoes the shock of that fact. “The panel was struck by the gravity of its findings,” it reads. “For many years, Americans have been dying at younger ages than people in almost all other high income countries.”

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/12/living-sick-and-dying-y oung-in-rich-america/282495/
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/cusp/201312/young-americans-are-sicker-ever

Families of children who died after injections: http://www.facebook.com/groups/AngelBabiesKids/

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posted June 05, 2016 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith        Reply w/Quote
1 in 68 children in America now have autism.
http://www.ageofautism.com/the-vaccine-autism-link.html

Seems more dangerous than the mumps...

Sure, there could be other factors, but it's amazing how most establishments consider it a foregone conclusion that vaccines cannot and must not be a factor, whatsoever.

More and more vaccines every year...

Is there really suddenly more of something else...anything else...that could be responsible for the increasing numbers of deaths, autism, illnesses?
http://vaccine-injury.info/about.cfm

I know some people are really sensitive about this and I don't mean to offend anyone. But this is how I see it.

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http://www.westonaprice.org/press/studies-show-that-vaccinated-individuals-spread-di sease/
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#hearthiswell ~ 262 short videos uploaded by parents with vaccine-damaged children
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOtk6vxVg0k&list=PLJpPObXpZncOfT0bG2ghgkVb2Nxjd_bNe&i ndex=2

Pro-vaccine mother is anti-vaccine after autism: http://thinkingmomsrevolution.com/rolled-eyes-parents-said-vaccines-caused-kids-autism/

Lots of people say that the testimony of parents simply doesn't matter. They say it's the doctors' records that determine absolutely everything, "scientifically." Yet the parents say, the doctors do not record accurately, do not test, are not scientific in their approach.

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posted June 06, 2016 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall        Reply w/Quote
I couldn't agree more!

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posted June 07, 2016 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall        Reply w/Quote
Junk science!

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posted June 19, 2016 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
Junk science!


Totally!

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posted June 20, 2016 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall        Reply w/Quote
A lot of junk science in the world.

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posted June 20, 2016 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
A lot of junk science in the world.

OH YEA, Randall!

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posted June 21, 2016 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd        Reply w/Quote
on the topic of junk science, here is a thread I have on the fraud of science
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=76238

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posted June 22, 2016 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall        Reply w/Quote
Thanks!

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posted June 24, 2016 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith        Reply w/Quote
Don't Trust Your Doctor

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I’m a doctor, so I can say this with a straight face: Don’t trust your doctor. There’s no question in my mind that today most doctors are businessmen first and doctors second.

And you shouldn’t trust your doctor anymore than you trust your stockbroker, (if you are foolish enough to have one). Neither one looks out for you, they primarily care about themselves. That’s the reason the individual retail investor on Wall Street is the last one to buy a high-flying stock before it is about to tank, and the individual patient is the last one to swallow a deadly pill, when everyone else in the know has already stopped taking it.


Honest article:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-peter-rost/dont-trust-your-doctor_b_18977.html

Here's another good one:

http://www.physiciansweekly.com/doctors-losing-publics-trust/

Problem is, after listing all the reasons why the doctors are becoming less effective in certain ways (thank you for admitting all that), the author, a doctor herself, concludes that the doctors are still capable of providing a service worthy of patients' trust.

Even though the service is low quality and hampered by bureaucratic constraints, as she admits.

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posted June 24, 2016 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith        Reply w/Quote
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The following comes from a JAMA article written by Barbara Starfield, MD

"The medical system has played a large role in undermining the health of Americans. According to several research studies in the last decade, a total of 225,000 Americans per year have died as a result of their medical treatments:

12,000 deaths per year due to unnecessary surgery
7000 deaths per year due to medication errors in hospitals
20,000 deaths per year due to other errors in hospitals
80,000 deaths per year due to infections in hospitals
106,000 deaths per year due to negative effects of drugs
Thus, America's healthcare-system-induced deaths are the third leading cause of the death in the U.S., after heart disease and cancer."

According to Starfield's cited numbers, nearly a quarter million Americans are killed by the medical establishment each year. She goes on to say these deaths are third only to heart disease and cancer.

Heart disease and cancer are diagnosed by this same flawed system, so logic would purport that some of the deaths from the first and second causes of American mortality are actually direct results of misdiagnosis, unnecessary surgery, and the other factors listed above.



http://www.chetday.com/donttrustdoctors.htm

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posted June 24, 2016 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith        Reply w/Quote
I am really dumbfounded by the people who fail to understand what Big Pharma has done to the state of medicine.

How can people not see the financial/business ulterior motives that are eroding the integrity of the medical system? How can they seriously believe that "studies" are always scientific, just because scientists say they are? As if they never heard of scientists fudging data for politics and profit.

Really, why is that so hard to believe?

What's so scientific about failing to remember that scientists are corruptible just like anyone else, and we've seen the proof of it?? Seems pretty delusional to me.

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Skepticism of the medical profession hasn’t happened without any reason. Experts point to unequal access to health care and the “commercialization” of American medicine as key factors at play in that damaged relationship. Some people say that members of the medical field often seem more concerned about protecting their financial interests than caring for patients, especially those from less affluent backgrounds.
Big Pharma has historically tried to influence the advice that doctors give patients, something that may make Americans wary of the field in general. In exchange for their endorsement of prescription medications, physicians receive free samples and gifts that include coffee mugs emblazoned with the drug company’s logo, tickets to sporting events, expensive dinners, and trips to exotic destinations. At the peak of Big Pharma’s profitable relationship with the medical industry in 2007, more than 100,000 representatives made visits to more than 650,000 physicians across the country.
This can sometimes have a direct effect on patients. A Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) study in August, for example, found that doctors in hospitals with a strong black patient base encouraged breastfeeding to expectant mothers at a rate 15 percentage points less than that of their white counterparts, due in part to a relationship between the facility and manufacturers of baby formula.

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014/10/23/3583625/americans-skeptical-doctors/

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When I was growing up, nobody ever talked about anyone dying of mumps, measels, chicken pox, or flu. Now people have been trained to regard these as "potentially lethal" diseases.

Isn't it amazing how fear can be used to control people, change their minds and behavior?

Soon they'll have a vaccine for the common cold, and the common cold will be regarded as "potentially deadly" as well, with statistics to back that up. I can see it now.

I can just imagine people panicking and thinking they will catch their death from someone with a runny nose....the way people used to fear getting AIDS from public toilets.

People cowering from simple problems like the sniffles, fearing regular human contact, not seeing the larger context whatsoever...

I wouldn't be surprised.

Again, it's just amazing (and scary...and humbling) to consider how programmable people are.

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posted June 25, 2016 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall        Reply w/Quote
You should watch the people entering Walmart and using anti-bacterial wipes on shopping carts. Medical errors are the third leading cause of death (behind heart disease and cancer), and it's actually much higher, because many death certificates are based on guesses and are presumed to be correct.

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posted June 27, 2016 08:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith        Reply w/Quote
^ Isn't it interesting?

We build natural immunity by exposure to germs. So if we catch a disease from those shopping carts, chances are we will recover from it, and then we have accomplished the same thing a vaccination strives to attain. Same principle.

Yet, people can't be independent like that!! Can't trust people to build their own immunity.

Better let the experts do it and pay them a fortune.

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posted June 27, 2016 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith        Reply w/Quote
Honestly the medical industry (yes it's an industry) doesn't really care about the kids. They don't.

If they did, they wouldn't be so merciless towards the unvaccinated ones.

Stories from the front line:

1) My friend's unvaccinated daughter got a migraine headache. My friend didn't know it was just a migraine, so she took her to the hospital. After running many tests, they concluded it was a migraine. And her daughter already felt fine again.

Then the hospital staff decided the daughter needed to travel three hours to a larger hospital for better and more extensive tests. My friend isn't insured and didn't want to do that. So the hospital contacted Child Protective Services and set an armed guard in front of her daughter's room, disallowing her to family to see her.

The doctors were open about the fact that the daughter's vaccination status was a "red flag" that contributed to CPS being called. Basically they had no choice but to travel three hours for the extra, very expensive tests, which only confirmed that is was a migraine.

$20,000 migraine, child somewhat traumatized by police interfering between her and her mother

2) Another friend's daughter did not vaccinate her children. She is having trouble locating a pediatrician who will even see her.

At one doctor's visit, the doctor was lecturing her right in front of her children, got very exasperated and said, "Your child will probably die young because you didn't vaccinate, you are putting their lives in jeopardy."

Imagine being 4 years old and a doctor says you are going to die young, and he's angry and doesn't console you or seem to care in the slightest.

3) Have I mentioned the doctors are systematically "administering" autism, collectively inducing brain damage in thousands and thousands of children, while denying it and pretending they aren't seeing it happen right in front of their eyes?

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posted June 27, 2016 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne        Reply w/Quote
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You should watch the people entering Walmart and using anti-bacterial wipes on shopping carts. Medical errors are the third leading cause of death (behind heart disease and cancer), and it's actually much higher, because many death certificates are based on guesses and are presumed to be correct.


It used to be 4th. Did not know it went to 3rd, but it is prolly more, as you said, Randall. SOOOO SAD

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posted June 27, 2016 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd        Reply w/Quote
you might like this link faith
http://humansarefree.com/2016/06/the-vaccine-matrix-covert-birth-control.html#more

“Part of the vaccine covert op involves turning humans into social constructs who can only think, in the most shallow terms, about ‘protecting the group’. Such people would lose any semblance of individuality, as well as the ability to analyze vaccines and understand what harm they do

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posted June 27, 2016 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith        Reply w/Quote
Thank you Todd ~ I remember reading about that before and looking forward to learning how the problem was resolved.

And I like the quote.

The relationship between vaccines and education is pretty extensive and interesting, especially when we consider...

* unvaccinated children in some states cannot attend school
* the exemption laws blatantly discriminate against non-religious parents and don't offer philosophical exemptions
* vaccinated children in schools are more likely to have behavior problems or autistic spectrum special needs
* college vaccine requirements may prevent some people from attending college
* And a college education is required to have a living wage, for the most part

So essentially a child's education and future prosperity are not serious concerns in our society. We should be more focused on keeping him safe from chicken pox because that can really ruin his life.

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Bottom line is, more money for the compliant ones, & less and less for the freethinkers and non-compliant.

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posted June 27, 2016 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valentine        Reply w/Quote
I'm curious as to whether any/all of you were vaccinated as children? I know I was. Unless in those days vaccinations were safer, neither me or anyone in my family has had ill effects.I also had my daughter vaccinated in the 80's, she's healthy.
I wonder why things are so different now?

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posted June 28, 2016 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith        Reply w/Quote
Hi Valentine,

I do suspect that vaccine damage has been happening for quite a while, and may be an underlying reason for other problems such as Crohn's disease, celiac, hormonal problems, learning disorders.

It's more severe now because there are so many more vaccines (larger toxic load), and the MMR in particular has had safety issues from the beginning.

Dr. Andrew Wakefield is one of the most hated people on the internet, probably because he's one of the most articulate, credible, and fearless against vaccines. He explains why the MMR has been particularly devastating.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_czhdiEfgUw

Long video but within the first seven minutes he shows that austism is a new disease, caused by environmental toxins, and its rate of occurence began to spike within a short time from co-incident with the introduction of the MMR vaccine in the late 80's.

In other videos he talks about different aspects of the story. To summarize, he was prominent in the medical community (one of the foremost pediatric gastroenterologists in the world), he found MMR unsafe from the start (two other versions of the vaccine had to be removed from the market), and immediately began working with the British government to try and effect change and protect children. He was stonewalled by politicans who were more concerned with protecting Big Pharma and the bureaucracy. And of course he was demonized more and more severely over the years, the more it was evident that he was right, and proving that what's going on is against children, especially in America, is not just random, but horrific and criminal.

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posted June 28, 2016 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith        Reply w/Quote
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The Vaccine Autism Cover-up: How One Doctor’s Career was Destroyed for Telling the Truth

In what was perhaps the biggest news event of 2014 (that the mainstream media does not want to cover), the full ramifications of Dr. William Thompson of the CDC coming forward as a whistleblower to confess that the CDC has covered up data linking vaccines to autism are yet to be seen. (See: CDC Whistleblower: CDC Covered Up MMR Vaccine Link to Autism in African American Boys)

However, while blame and (hopefully) criminal complaints more than likely await many people who participated in this cover-up, there is one man who deserves honor, and to whom the mainstream media owes a huge apology: Dr. Andrew Wakefield.

Dr. Wakefield is the world-renowned gastrointestinal surgeon and researcher who has been accused of fraud and fabricating studies that show a link between the MMR vaccine and bowel disease, present in many children with autism. Dr. Wakefield was not an anti-vaccine doctor. Rather, he was a doctor interested in vaccine safety, and his studies led him (and many other researchers) to believe that there were problems with the three-combo vaccine of measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR). He did not advise his patients to stop vaccinating, but instead to vaccinate for these three diseases with single vaccines, rather than the combo.

There was just one problem with this advice. While this advice was in the best interest of parents seeking vaccine safety, it was not in the best interest of the manufacturer of the MMR vaccine (Merck), which saw a decline in its sales in the UK (although there was initially an increase in the sale of single-dose vaccines).

Dr. Wakefield’s research regarding the MMR vaccine and its link to bowel disease and autism was originally published in the Lancet. But a journalist by the name of Brian Deer published an article in the British Medical Journal criticizing Dr. Wakefield and accusing him of fraud. As a result, his study in the Lancet was retracted. Dr. Wakefield, and one of the co-authors of the retracted article, Prof. John Walker-Smith, were barred from practicing medicine by the United Kingdom’s General Medical Council regulatory board.

What you will not read in the mainstream media, however, is that both the BMJ and Lancet have strong financial ties to the manufacturer of the MMR vaccine. (See: BMJ & Lancet Wedded to Merck CME Partnership) You probably also did not read that Dr. Andrew’s co-author in the study, Prof. John Walker-Smith, fought an expensive legal battle against the United Kingdom’s General Medical Council and won. He was completely exonerated.

Dr. Andrew Wakefield, in the meantime, lost his career and name for simply following the truth his research led him to. He became the scapegoat, the “straw man” to knock down in the mainstream media. Every time someone would bring up any question regarding vaccines and autism you will usually encounter something like: “That theory has been totally proven false, and the guy who made it up was convicted of fraud.” I have even had people tell me on social media that “the guy” (most don’t even know his name) did “prison time.”

However, Dr. Wakefield was never convicted by a jury or in a court of law, and he lives in the U.S. today. He has issued challenges to his accusers to debate him in the media, but of course they have never accepted his challenge. He is a leading expert in gut health, a subject sorely needing research today, in an age where not only vaccines, but antibiotics, pesticides, and many other things have destroyed our ability to digest our food properly, leading to many bowel diseases. A list of his research, provided from his Facebook Page, is listed below.

If you want to know what people who personally know Dr. Wakefield think about him, read this report from one of the parents of two children that were part of his study that was allegedly “fabricated.” Dr. Wakefield was so successful in working with parents and children in in the U.K., helping them to find solutions to complicated health problems, that a British TV program was made dramatizing his work in the 1990s. It recently resurfaced on YouTube here.


The article @ http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/the-vaccine-autism-co ver-up-how-one-doctors-career-was-destroyed-for-telling-the-truth/

...is hyperlinked so you can follow links from there if you are interested.

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A lot of people smoke and never get lung cancer, but that doesn't mean smoking is good for you.

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I'm curious as to whether any/all of you were vaccinated as children? I know I was. Unless in those days vaccinations were safer, neither me or anyone in my family has had ill effects.I also had my daughter vaccinated in the 80's, she's healthy.
I wonder why things are so different now?

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posted June 28, 2016 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valentine        Reply w/Quote
Thanks for your explanation Faith. It does make sense.

You're right Randall.

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posted June 29, 2016 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall        Reply w/Quote
Glad you escaped the side-effects.

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I remember a link awhile back and a doctor was noting that before the Obama health care over haul, young doctors in residency would be making plans for their own medical practices. now young doctors are jockying for positions to work for the medical corporations .
Which anyone with medical issues knows means sitting next to doctor who essential ignores you while they look at the computer screen trying to find a drug to prescribe to you based on your test results. And if you complain of side affects, they dismiss this like every other thing you say. And when you are on the doorstep of death, they then search for another drug to counteract the first drug addict infinitun.this is a little dramatized but not by much,as doctors are now trained to treat your symptoms with Big Pharmacy drugs instead of rooting out the cause of your symptoms and curing. There is no money in healthy people .these problems all really began when the pharmacy corporations were allowed to advertise on television. This used to be the only country in the world that allowed this,
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