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posted January 22, 2021 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Right on cue for biden,WHO admits high cycle PCR tests produce massive covid false positives.

WHO know acknowledge their pandemic lie...PCR gives false positive. So it would seem the the truth about this hoax will cone out.. not so fast,we are just looking at revealing g one lie to coverup another lie.

WHO made this announcement 2 hours after whatever happened in Washington with bidden happened (there are a lot of rumours)but this mea culpa by WHO is just part of the continuing hoax.. Why?..Bidden is going flat out fascist on requiring masks and the such,I have to assume he will push for mandatory vaccination down the road.but right now,with Bidden clamping down on the virus,WHO announcement means that if this insight is implemented then there will be a massive decrease of corona cases...looks good except the MSM will spin it like Biden's fascist implementation of his corona mandates will look like he is correct..look,cases are down Bidden is a genius.why didn't WHO admit this in February and not destroy our economy,our freedoms and our lives???!!!

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Of course the lies underlying this hoax will not change.
First off the PCR is not a test though everyone refers to it as a test.PCR can't diagnose ANYTHING.the creator Kary Mullis who received the novel prize for his creation,has said since 1983 that the PCR is a fabrication technique..not a test. It can't diagnose anything.
Second off all the insane psychotic mandates like mask and social distancing ( which don't have any scientific basis) will continue.we will remain lock down forever even though WHO admits to the faulty statistics that created the lockdown.


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posted January 23, 2021 06:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FactCheck: Did the creator of PCR tests say they don't work for Covid-19?

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The claims on social media have left out that Mullis was specifically discussing HIV and the experience of people with HIV who also contract other viruses.

Moreover, Mullis’ views on HIV and AIDS have been widely discredited. Mullis was a proponent of a theory led by a scientist called Peter Duesberg, first published in 1987, that HIV was not the cause of AIDS – it is.

The other quote that has been attributed to Mullis in these posts – that PCR testing “cannot detect free infectious viruses” – actually comes from an article written by an American writer called John Lauritsen. Mullis did not say it.

In the article, Lauritsen wrote about how tests like PCR don’t count the number of viruses in the blood. Instead, the test detects the genetic material of the virus to determine whether the virus is present.

This does not mean, and he is not saying, that PCR tests are not suited to testing for whether a person has contracted a particular virus, such as Covid-19.

Kary Mullis, who was born in 1944, died on 7 August 2019.

The first cases of Covid-19 were reported by officials in December 2019 in Wuhan, China.

Mullis could not have made any specific commentary on the effectiveness of using PCR testing for Covid-19.

Mullis received the Nobel Prize in Chemistry in 1993 for his invention of the PCR testing technique.

Claims on social media have either incorrectly or misleadingly – depending on the claim – attributed quotes to the creator of PCR testing, Kary Mullis, that suggest he was opposed to using PCR tests to test for viruses like Covid-19.

Of the two “quotes” attributed to him most frequently in these claims, one of them was taken out of context in a misleading way, and another was not said by Mullis but by a writer and has also been misinterpreted.

Mullis died before the first cases of Covid-19 were reported, and could not have commented specifically on the effectiveness of PCR testing for Covid-19.

As a result, we rate the claim that the creator of PCR tests said they do not work for Covid-19: FALSE.
http://www.thejournal.ie/kary-mullis-pcr-testing-factcheck-debunk-hse-5271830-Nov2020/


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posted January 23, 2021 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LuckyLeo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Voix, I would be careful about trusting “Fact Checks”. They seem to be written to control the narrative.

Here is a video of the creator of the test, Kary Mullis, describing the test’s limitations:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iWOJKuSKw5c


“It allows you to take a very minuscule amount of anything and make it measurable and then talk about it...like it *is* important.”

“PCR..is just a process that’s used to make a whole lot of something out of something. That’s what it is. And it’s not...it doesn’t tell you that you’re sick, it doesn’t tell you that the thing you ended up with really was gonna hurt you or anything like that.”

The host then concludes the discussion by saying that the test cannot determine whether the particles detected by the test are active live particles, which Mullis does not then refute.

So here in this video he is saying that the test is not supposed to be used to detect illness or disease. Yes, he died only a few months before the pandemic began and is unable to give his opinion on how the test can be used for COVID specifically.... but that is a red herring. I think we can infer what his opinion would be based on his previous statements about the test.

On a related note, I have also seen a video of him being extremely critical of Dr. Fauci, (saying that Fauci does not know what he is talking about) which I can also post if anyone is interested.

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posted January 23, 2021 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LuckyLeo:
Hey Voix, I would be careful about trusting “Fact Checks”. They seem to be written to control the narrative.

Here is a video of the creator of the test, Kary Mullis, describing the test’s limitations:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iWOJKuSKw5c


“It allows you to take a very minuscule amount of anything and make it measurable and then talk about it...like it *is* important.”

“PCR..is just a process that’s used to make a whole lot of something out of something. That’s what it is. And it’s not...it doesn’t tell you that you’re sick, it doesn’t tell you that the thing you ended up with really was gonna hurt you or anything like that.”

The host then concludes the discussion by saying that the test cannot determine whether the particles detected by the test are active live particles, which Mullis does not then refute.

So here in this video he is saying that the test is not supposed to be used to detect illness or disease. Yes, he died only a few months before the pandemic began and is unable to give his opinion on how the test can be used for COVID specifically.... but that is a red herring. I think we can infer what his opinion would be based on his previous statements about the test.

On a related note, I have also seen a video of him being extremely critical of Dr. Fauci, (saying that Fauci does not know what he is talking about) which I can also post if anyone is interested.


Nice rebuttal I have seen those videos and researched Mullis and the HIV hoax a bit.

First off voix is so committed to theCovid hoax that he misrepresentation facts qnd lies about everything in his rant.

I have already had a length post suspiciously just dissappear so I will continue in parts.

First off the PCR is not a test.even those who correctly point out the fraudulent use of PCR call it a test.this is the first misnomer associated with the hoax.
The PCR is a fabrication technique pure and simple.it has no diagnostic ability.it takes a minute amount of nucleic matter and replicates~copies it until there is enough of the unknown sample to run other test to determine what it is.
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Part 2
The replication technique doubles the amount of unknown in each cycle.it is the same as continuing squaring a number.
After 30 cycles you have over a billion times of the original amount.
The fraudulent use of the PCR comes because the more recycles that are performed,the more of the sample is produced.this is why the crook fauci (Mullis words not mine) used the PCR.he could create enough copies of the unknown til the viral load was large enough to be called positive. Virus can't hurt you until there is enough to make you sick.
What has been pointed out from the beginning of the hoax is that 97% PCR positives are false ,for one reason,because they kept replicating until the viral load shows d up large.
What WHO has just admitted is that over 30 cycles too much extraneous material his created .scientist know this so before fauci 30 cycles was the cut off if you didn't have
enough sample then it was negative.but labs were using a cutoff of 37-40 cycles at the high point every sample would be postivw.remember at 30 cycles the amount is a billion timee larger so at 31 cycles the sample would be a billion×billion times larger qnd so on.

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Now this is how fauci manufactured enough positives to cry wolf.
But it was not the first time he has used this exact fraudulent use of the PCR.

In fact the corona fraud is a rerun of the AIDS fraud.......again run by fauci.

There is no underlying science to either of these medical frauds.
Neither virus has been isolated and purified so no scientific tests have been able to verify either virus causes the disease they are credited with causing.

This is where voix gets his lies mixed up.
Mullins had made no comment about the HIV causing AIDS until he received a letter asking him to endorse the supposition that AIDS was caused by HIV. He said sure,just send me the medical research paper that describes the biochemical mechanism by which HIV destroys the T cells and other damage it causes.well he never received the paper because there is no paper.the scientific mechanism of HIV causing AIDS has never been described.to this day in Africa, they don't even use the presence or absence of HIV to make a diagnosis of AIDS.
So Mullis would never subscribe to the theory that AIDS is caused by HIV..it has never been proven.to this day there a a website with hundreds of scientist posting why AIDS is not caused by HIV.
The biggest stumbling block to the HIV/AIDS paradigm brings us back to the viral load and the crook fauci

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posted January 23, 2021 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The AIDS/HIV debate goes back nearly 40 years
and then just like today the phatmauetical corporations had the final say by placing profits over science. exactly what we are seeing today with the very sane criminal now as then. Fauci

The history of AIDS is one long scandal from pres Reagan refusing to give adequate research most bet until 100000 died to the actually suppisition that HIV causes AIDS to fauci lying so that the drugs he had patent interest in were used though they killed the patient. I refer to AZT a drug known to cause cancer that fauci had a financial stake in.
It is the same today,fauci has stood before the TV camera and said I have no financial stake besides my 200000$ salary,all the while he doesn't mention his stock options he received when he was the first president of Moderna one of the companies making the bogus"vaccines".

A friend of fauci named Dr Robert gallo was researching the AIDS disease in the 80s.at that time there was more cooperation among researchers.....but not now.
Gallons received a sample of HIV from France and then a month later he announced he had found the virus that caused AIDS.but it turned out the virus he claimed as his was the virus the French researchers sent him.gallons backhanded ways were found out and he is for the most part discredited.
But,here is where the vested interests took over just as today,he submitted his paper to the scientific agency over seeing these matters(I can't remember the agency name now).
They accepted his claim that HIV causes AIDS.
But gallo did not have the research work to show the mechanism that HIV was the cause of AIDS. Well the government agency said since HIV is the cause of AIDS then there is no need for future research.they cut off all money for AIDS research.gallos paper was never peer reviewed and researchers who wanted to check his work had no way to continue because funding was cut off.

So just as the MSM/pharmaceutical/ corporation media pushes the corona hoax today,these same forces pushed the unverified theory that AIDS is caused HIV which stands today.
Both corona/HIV. no scientific evidence
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posted January 23, 2021 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll finish tomorrow's as my last post disappeared just as I was going to post it

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Back to fauci fraud with HIV.

A single virus does not harm you.there must be massive amounts of a virus in your body before it can do damage.another thing the PRC can't do is measure the viral load.

The main problem with the idea that HIV causes AIDS is that there is not enough HIV in the patients body to cause the massive killing of T cells and other aspects immune damage.
One researcher of the day said that saying HIV causes AIDS is like saying you are going to conquer China by killing two soldiers a day.there is simply not enough of a viral load present for HIV to cause the damage in AIDS victims.

Kary Mullis created the RT-PCR(Reverse Transcription Polymerase Chain Reaction) or PCR for short in 1983 and received the Nobel prize for his work in 1993.at that time ABC news wanted do do a 2 hour special on his life(he believed in astrology and wrote a paper published in nature magazine in which he wrote about time going backwards in black holes. He got this insight while on LSD).
Mullins wanted to spent one hour of his TV special on fauci and the fraud with in the AIDS controversy but ABC did not go along.

The problem was that fauci had used the PCR technique to create huge amounts of replicated HIV,then he claimed that there was enough
in his sample to cause all the damage to the AIDS immune system that characterized AIDS.this was outright lies because all the additional HIV he "discovered" was simply replicated.
Mullis publicly stated this was a mid use of the PCR by fauci.
He also called fauci a crook and held fauci responsible for 100000 deaths of people who died using fauci cancer producing AZT.
This is exactly the same today.100000s have needlessly died if HCQ had been given to covid victims.
In 2005 the NIH with fauci at the helm published a paper in the journal of virology
that said HCQ-hydroxychloroquine will kill corona virus and keep you from getting it.many doctors have used this and made videos but every video has been scrubbed from the net.this is why this is a obvious hoax's.no one needed to die and as Mullis say about the AIDS situation,fauci is responsible for these 450000 alleged deaths even though these are bogus numbers.

The other side of this his is that the nucleotides that are being replicated are not even corona virus.this is exactly the same with HIV tests...they don't identify HIV or Corona virus.
What is being replicated is nucleic matter that the researcher THINKS is created by the virus.so these test do not show the actual virus is/was at all.again no science only supposition..guessing.

WHO uses ,I believe, 4 platforms or genetic sequences produced by the corona virus(just a reminder covid-19 has never been found in the lungs).
Put to make the situation more ridiculous and an obvious hoax,one othe the 18 amino pair sequences used to identify the corona virus is that exactly the same 18 character sequence is on the human chromosome 8.this means that any living personal can test positive for the corona virus because the sequence they are looking for is in everyone's genome.

99% of what the establishment says about this hoax is lie.the only given is that there is a genetically modified corona virus out there that causes interstitial pulmonary fungal infection.and this bioweapons that will continued to be used selectively to create new outbreaks with the sole to convince the world to be injected and hence become subhuman slaves to the elite/Rothschild's

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Wow, thanks todd. I have never heard all of that about HIV. I am going to have to look into that when I have time. Before this whole pandemic, I probably would not have been open to the idea that the scientific community has put forth such misinformation, but I am more open minded about these things now.

I posted that video because these “Fact Checks“ drive me crazy 😜. They often read like a sly PR piece more than anything! I can tell that Voix de la Mer posted it in good faith because she believes that it is true. I just wanted to help by posting primary source information. “Fact Checks” seem to be all over the place now and sound legitimate but you cannot rely on them. We have to fact check the Fact Check! Crazy that we have to... but we do! 😀

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posted January 24, 2021 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LuckyLeo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by todd:

This is exactly the same today.100000s have needlessly died if HCQ had been given to civic victims.

Yes. The people who banned this drug in certain places and lied about it (saying it’s harmful) are responsible for a lot of deaths.

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Originally posted by todd:
Humansarefree.com

Right on cue for biden,WHO admits high cycle PCR tests produce massive covid false positives.

WHO know acknowledge their pandemic lie...PCR gives false positive. So it would seem the the truth about this hoax will cone out.. not so fast,we are just looking at revealing g one lie to coverup another lie.

WHO made this announcement 2 hours after whatever happened in Washington with bidden happened (there are a lot of rumours)but this mea culpa by WHO is just part of the continuing hoax.. Why?..Bidden is going flat out fascist on requiring masks and the such,I have to assume he will push for mandatory vaccination down the road.but right now,with Bidden clamping down on the virus,WHO announcement means that if this insight is implemented then there will be a massive decrease of corona cases...looks good except the MSM will spin it like Biden's fascist implementation of his corona mandates will look like he is correct..look,cases are down Bidden is a genius.why didn't WHO admit this in February and not destroy our economy,our freedoms and our lives???!!!

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Of course the lies underlying this hoax will not change.
First off the PCR is not a test though everyone refers to it as a test.PCR can't diagnose ANYTHING.the creator Kary Mullis who received the novel prize for his creation,has said since 1983 that the PCR is a fabrication technique..not a test. It can't diagnose anything.
Second off all the insane psychotic mandates like mask and social distancing ( which don't have any scientific basis) will continue.we will remain lock down forever even though WHO admits to the faulty statistics that created the lockdown.



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International study covid-19 lockdown have no clear benefit vs voluntary measures

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Just another note how the corona hoax mirrors the HIV hoax is that all 3 trumps experts on the hoax were also involved in the HIV hoax.
Crook fauci,dr.birx and dr redfield were also working together on the HIV hoax over 30 years ago. This isn't their first rodeo

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posted January 26, 2021 03:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scientific evidence please...

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Apparently you don't read before you try to obfuscate.

There is no scientific evidence.
You are one who needs to scientific evidence to prove whatever you are referring to.
You have become a waste of time .

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posted January 27, 2021 06:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by todd:
Apparently you don't read before you try to obfuscate.

There is no scientific evidence.
You are one who needs to scientific evidence to prove whatever you are referring to.
You have become a waste of time .


You continue to make outlandish and dangerous assertions without ever posting any scientific evidence Todd. You derail my thread in GU with these unevidenced assertions and when I kept my mind open to whatever evidence you may bring to your assertions, you bring none.

But, Spiderline is for conspiracy theories and I guess evidence is not required to post here. But have the self-awareness to recognise that if you tell people the sky is falling, they will expect you to prove that. And if you wander into a thread on another forum with unevidenced assertions about a public health crisis, you will be expected to provide evidence.

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posted January 28, 2021 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And you continue to not read the threads where I posted the research results for every one one my assertion.

Unless of course my references have been deleted......not the first time on this site.

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I have been asking for the studies, results are notoriously open to interpretation. You have to analyse many parts of a study before you can determine whether the results are significant or not. Trust me Todd, I've been involved in enough research to know how easy it is to bend results to a narrative. I am not being difficult when I ask for full studies, it is literally the only way to determine if the results have weight. I'm not claiming to be an expert, I have only done research up to master's level, but I would be a fool not to employ what I do know.

The only person who is authorised to delete threads is Randall, but there have been glitches from time to time. I would notify him if you think this is happening.

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Well I don't trust you or anything you say when my experience in the US show fraud from the higher levels of society.
You continued ignoring if hard statistics is about vwhat I have cone to expect from youtgere is no science behind this hoax,that is the bottom line you ignore.

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She has only ever been polite to you. I trust her a lot more than I trust conspiracy sites.

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The slippery road to fascism and genocide.
First Buren said"oh letscwearvthe masks for 90 days......now he is saying "go to jail if you don't wear a mask"

Why isn't he impeached for planning to give sovereignty of our country to the UN(spelt R-O-T-H-C-H-I-L-D-S)

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Once again I find it suspicious that the only most I made yesterday was just in this threads suspicious because now the propaganda machine is running against the "terrorist right", all the while the terrorist acts got the left are being nominated for the joke Nobel prize.

I will repost:

We are on a slippery slope of fascism.Biden first said " let's wear mask for 90 days...now be says wear a mask or go to jail.
Buren needs to be impeached immediately as he has openly said he w

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Once again I find it suspicious that the only most I made yesterday was just in this threads suspicious because now the propaganda machine is running against the "terrorist right", all the while the terrorist acts got the left are being nominated for the joke Nobel prize.

I will repost:

We are on a slippery slope of fascism.Biden first said " let's wear mask for 90 days...now be says wear a mask or go to jail.
Buren needs to be impeached immediately as he has openly said he will give our sovereignty to the UN....sounds like traitorous talk to me.but then trump was allowed to break every law he could and nothing happened to him

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Originally posted by todd:
Humansarefree.com

Right on cue for biden,WHO admits high cycle PCR tests produce massive covid false positives.

WHO know acknowledge their pandemic lie...PCR gives false positive. So it would seem the the truth about this hoax will cone out.. not so fast,we are just looking at revealing g one lie to coverup another lie.

WHO made this announcement 2 hours after whatever happened in Washington with bidden happened (there are a lot of rumours)but this mea culpa by WHO is just part of the continuing hoax.. Why?..Bidden is going flat out fascist on requiring masks and the such,I have to assume he will push for mandatory vaccination down the road.but right now,with Bidden clamping down on the virus,WHO announcement means that if this insight is implemented then there will be a massive decrease of corona cases...looks good except the MSM will spin it like Biden's fascist implementation of his corona mandates will look like he is correct..look,cases are down Bidden is a genius.why didn't WHO admit this in February and not destroy our economy,our freedoms and our lives???!!!

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Of course the lies underlying this hoax will not change.
First off the PCR is not a test though everyone refers to it as a test.PCR can't diagnose ANYTHING.the creator Kary Mullis who received the novel prize for his creation,has said since 1983 that the PCR is a fabrication technique..not a test. It can't diagnose anything.
Second off all the insane psychotic mandates like mask and social distancing ( which don't have any scientific basis) will continue.we will remain lock down forever even though WHO admits to the faulty statistics that created the lockdown.



Everything is going as planned.there has been a sudden sharp drop in covid deaths. Obviously they are going to claim Bidens plans are working .of course the drop off is just because they are lying and inflating the figures.

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