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SunChild
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posted March 15, 2011 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In light of the meltdown of Fukushima: How to protect yourself and your thyroid against radiation: kelp, ginseng, ashwaganda (recently found to regrow nerves), chlorella, zeolites, fulvic acid, nascent iodine, reishi mushroom, sea salt (also salty miso), botanical (plant-derived) or lipo- vitamin C, magnesium (chlorophyll), selenium (brazil nuts), coconut butter, Megahydrate, Crystal Energy. Spread the word. _David Wolfe

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“It’s an interesting thing. Seeing Kuan Yin relating to a flower so intently. She's not just looking at it; she's interacting with it…I’m seeing how the act of relating to a flower appears to be so simple. Yet, it takes a tremendous amount of courage to make such a “simple” act important. Now, the lotus is floating away.”

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posted March 15, 2011 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so should you mix the coconut butter with vitamin C and spread it on your skin or drink it after blessing it with crystal energy????

I am curious ...

but if the people of north japan want to protect themselves with this mixture, they're gonna have to fly to another part of the world, cause there, shops are empty.

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posted March 15, 2011 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ami Anne
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posted March 15, 2011 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ACTUALLY, studies show seaweed and other foods to be protective against radiation.
Good work (((SunChild)))))

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posted March 15, 2011 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
ACTUALLY, studies show seaweed and other foods to be protective against radiation.
Good work (((SunChild)))))


show them then AMI

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posted March 15, 2011 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They are there,Pire.I can't be bothered to show them to you.

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posted March 15, 2011 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TxGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

"Dr. Akizuki fed his staff and patients a strict diet of brown rice, miso and tamari soy soup, wakame, kombu and other seaweed, Hokkaido pumpkin, and sea salt and prohibited the consumption of sugar and sweets."

As a result, he saved everyone in his hospital, while many other survivors perished from radiation sickness

http://home.iae.nl/users/lightnet/health/radiation.htm

There you go, Pire.

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Ami Anne
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posted March 15, 2011 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually,TXGirl
That was what I had in the back of my mind .


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posted March 15, 2011 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TxGirl:

"Dr. Akizuki fed his staff and patients a strict diet of brown rice, miso and tamari soy soup, wakame, kombu and other seaweed, Hokkaido pumpkin, and sea salt and prohibited the consumption of sugar and sweets."

As a result, he saved everyone in his hospital, while many other survivors perished from radiation sickness

http://home.iae.nl/users/lightnet/health/radiation.htm

There you go, Pire.


this is not a "study" TxGirl, it is a simple webpage. anyone who knows some HTML and CSS can write one. I was asking ami for scientific study because when saying "studies exist" I thought she meant scientific studies, not mere webpages exist.

my bad.

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posted March 15, 2011 11:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TxGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was just trying to be helpful. Thought you were curious about the foods.

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pire
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posted March 15, 2011 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
don't worry, it is just that I know it is hard for everyone to accept that there is not much that can be done in certain situations. at least in a situation like this one, the only thing that can be done to prevent it, would be to stop any nuclear program

otherwise just count the deads.

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posted March 16, 2011 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by pire:
[b]BEFORE

AFTER


lol,

Maybe we should try to make plant fuel work.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/000550.html

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posted March 16, 2011 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This was really weird, but i went running and got horrible cramps, nearly vomited twice, and now that I'm back inside I'm fine. I'm thinking it might be radiation. I did feel more radiation earlier but I think I may have blocked it out as I can do that with microwaves which make me feel sick too. I already know I'm pretty sensitive emf radiation.

Just wanted to post that. I live in the missouri/kansas area.

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posted March 16, 2011 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pire:
so should you mix the coconut butter with vitamin C and spread it on your skin or drink it after blessing it with crystal energy????

I am curious ...

but if the people of north japan want to protect themselves with this mixture, they're gonna have to fly to another part of the world, cause there, shops are empty.


It's for fallout in other parts of the world Pire...where the radiation is not strong enough to kill you in the short term but its to protect your thyroid in the long term. Help prevent cancer ect...

First you are rude pire then you go and make a joke of something very serious.
http://blog.imva.info/medicine/iodine-treatments-radiation-exposure


Potassium iodide tablets - thyroid protection

Calcium - Blocks uptake of stronium-90

Iron - Blocks uptake of plutonium

Potassium - Reduces uptake of cesium-137

Zinc - reduces uptake of radioactive zinc-65

Vitamin B 12 - Supresses the uptake of cobalt-60

An interview with David Wolfe http://www.thebestdayever.com/news/podcast/podcast-63-dave-wolfe-on-radiation-protect ion/ his full post is here (continued from my first post)

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looks like two or three of the reactors at Fukushima are in the process of melting down. In case you haven’t heard, reactor 1 literally blew up. I flew within several hundred miles of Tokyo last nite when we left Seoul, South Korea. It was all over Seoul TV. American television is covering it up, but that won't last for long. It is bad. Probably the worst disaster in history. And the fallout is heading beyond the greater Tokyo region and being pulled into the jet stream heading to the West Coast of America and Canada with Oregon and Northern California likely to get the worst of it.

I put this together (as a guide) for thebestdayever.com members and all my friends:

"In light of the meltdown of Fukushima: How to protect yourself and your thyroid against radiation: kelp, ginseng, ashwaganda (recently found to regrow nerves), chlorella, zeolites, fulvic acid, nascent iodine, reishi mushroom, sea salt (also salty miso), botanical (plant-derived) or lipo- vitamin C, magnesium (chlorophyll), selenium (brazil nuts), coconut butter (coconut products), Megahydrate, Crystal Energy. Spread the word."

Start small, but increase your dosages rapidly and dramatically if you live in Hawaii, Western Canada, and the Western USA. Start now. Fallout will descend upon North America sometime around March 22.

If you live in Japan, start taking massive doses of these foods, superfoods, superherbs, and supplements immediately. These are all safe for children.

Radioactive fallout lingers longest in medicinal mushrooms. If you live in North America, pick your mushrooms NOW. I wouldn’t recommend picking any medicinal mushrooms in the fallout zones (after the fallout begins) for several years, if not a decade depending on how bad the radiation is.

If you live in North America, stock up on food NOW because fresh food may be contaminated for several months after the fallout comes down from the jet stream into the fallout zones.

We all have to band together to stop nuclear power once and for all. All attention of all scientists should move to a total focus on free energy devices (solar, wind, implosion, etc.).



Pire stop being lazy and do some research yourself (which I and others have probably already done) and don't come here to nitpick. I am offended because I am trying to be helpful and not be a clown such as yourself.

http://www.google.com.au/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&q=seaweed+against+radiation&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=

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“It’s an interesting thing. Seeing Kuan Yin relating to a flower so intently. She's not just looking at it; she's interacting with it…I’m seeing how the act of relating to a flower appears to be so simple. Yet, it takes a tremendous amount of courage to make such a “simple” act important. Now, the lotus is floating away.”

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posted March 16, 2011 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel very sad for Japan...


(((Ami)))

thanks for the helpful replies everyone!

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“It’s an interesting thing. Seeing Kuan Yin relating to a flower so intently. She's not just looking at it; she's interacting with it…I’m seeing how the act of relating to a flower appears to be so simple. Yet, it takes a tremendous amount of courage to make such a “simple” act important. Now, the lotus is floating away.”

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posted March 16, 2011 11:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
being rude for a thumbdown, or being ironic?

I simply disagreed with the idea of portraying an easy solution to nuclear radiation by eating fruits and vegetable.

then I didn't make fun of this very sad situation, if your solution to a situation like this rest in vegetables, for me it rest in humour, cause there is not much else one can do. accepting the situation is not easy, probably more difficult than googling "easy and rapide solutions for radiation"

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posted March 17, 2011 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Never said it was a solution, it is a common sense measure for those (even suggested by THE SURGEON GENERAL) to take potassium Iodide and FOODS THAT CONTAIN IT for the fallout!!!!

It is no where near a god damn solution.
This whole freaking disaster will be a wake up call hopefully...dirty nuclear power....

So cabbage head wasn't meant to be making fun? Okay.

I think people can accept it rationally AND if there is a little extra you can do, why not try? Why not try to protect your thyroid, why not try Pire?

Your post is really ridiculous to me.

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“It’s an interesting thing. Seeing Kuan Yin relating to a flower so intently. She's not just looking at it; she's interacting with it…I’m seeing how the act of relating to a flower appears to be so simple. Yet, it takes a tremendous amount of courage to make such a “simple” act important. Now, the lotus is floating away.”

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posted March 17, 2011 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cathy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun Child, I too feel very sorry for Japan.

Thanks for trying to be helpful with your tips about protecting us from radiation.

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posted March 17, 2011 04:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Thanks Cathy, I think this information is important.

Thank Goodness that cabbage head dude image link is broken. I couldn't bare to look at him any more
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“It’s an interesting thing. Seeing Kuan Yin relating to a flower so intently. She's not just looking at it; she's interacting with it…I’m seeing how the act of relating to a flower appears to be so simple. Yet, it takes a tremendous amount of courage to make such a “simple” act important. Now, the lotus is floating away.”

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posted March 17, 2011 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well, it is unfortunate if my attitude or input is annoying to you, but as you pushed me to do some research, I did a bit earlier. I am still reading on it, and I stand by what I say. no cure exist for a nuclear catastrophe like this one.

I went to read stuff on 2 sites. the first wikipedia, I am reading the page on "acute radiation syndrome" and the second site is the AIEA and I have opened a few pdf brochures about safety http://www-ns.iaea.org/standards/documents/pubdoc-list.asp?s=11&l=96 . the only one I read so far, I am half way through, is called "AIEA safety standards for protecting people and the environment". I won't do an essay right now cause I have finished a day at work and that is enough for me, but I can tell you what I understand out of it all, now if you feel like it, you can read those docs and let me know what are your thoughts.

from what I gathered, one problem with radiation exposure is that there are many radionuclide, that they are difficult to evaluate (their impact is difficult to calculate exactly), that their impact must be calculated for specific organs because a generic measure cannot emcompass all radionuclide and all different organs. besides, some radionuclide live only a few days while others live hundred of thousands of years.
so the first problem is finding out the level of the exposure.

the second problem is the exposure and its effect. there is two kind: the long term, even with small doses (ex: the people who work in nuclear plant when there is no problem, unlike now in japan) and what the call the acute radiation symptom (this is what is happening now, let say accidental exposure)

from the first categorie of exposure, wikipedia talks (for the consequecences, the disease) of "stochastic" effects. meaning random, unpredictable, cancer included (cf "stochastic" on wikipedia

for the second category, the effect is measured in sievert (although as THE AIEA explain on page 12 of the brochure I mentioned above, organ and radionuclide can be mearused separetely). above 6 sievert death is almost garanteed. but this is for one time exposure. and the risk of dying rises by 14% for every sievert per year (as it has been observed since chernobyl - this info being found on a french article explainig the explosion in chernobyl and its consequences)
for a longer exposure, not even talking a lifetime, but a certain period, let say some weeks or some months, you should take that into account when estimating the risks.

last point, some of the consequences on health are somehow due to nuclear exposure but not only, what I mean is that white blood cells which protect the body are destroyed by the exposure, and in turn the body is vulnerable to infections.

so this was found on wikipedia and AIEA, and it explains why I find it strange that people believe that eating whatever pills, let alone fruits and veg and nuts and whatnot will save them.

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posted March 17, 2011 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pire:
being rude for a thumbdown, or being ironic?

I simply disagreed with the idea of portraying an easy solution to nuclear radiation by eating fruits and vegetable.

then I didn't make fun of this very sad situation, if your solution to a situation like this rest in vegetables, for me it rest in humour, cause there is not much else one can do. accepting the situation is not easy, probably more difficult than googling "easy and rapide solutions for radiation"


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posted March 17, 2011 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sorry to sound pessimistic but for me, the only alternative to death or longterm diseas is to leave the country, or the area at least. If I was really keen on not dying, and I lived very near a contaminated area such as north east japan-if any reactors explodes and open up completely, like it was the case in chernobyl, I'd go to the southern hemisphere for example, I haven't double checked but if I remember my geography classes, the winds slow down near the equator, due to the "trade wind" in the tropical regions on both side of the equator.

anyway, if the place is contaminated, and the contamination last hundred of thousand of years which is possible for some radionuclides, then your kids will suffer from it.

cancer and all that jazz.

the AIEA itself talks about restricting the area in certain circomstances when it is necessary, and on the first shema of the brochure I mentioned, the alternative when you arrive at the end of the process and all of the issues haven't been met, the plan asks governments to go back to the begining and restaart the procedure, ad vitam aeternam, I guess, if necessary.

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posted March 17, 2011 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very thankful that I already take some of these: sea salt, potassium, and magnesium. Some of the others may be in my supplements, but I should find some iodine/kelp soon.

Was told by the news this morning that the radiation will miss us, but hit southern California. It's messed up. I agree that nuclear power should be abandoned if stuff like this is still possible. The plants had back up systems in place to avoid catastrophe, but they failed as well. It's just bad news.

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posted March 17, 2011 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have always been afraid of nuclear power like WHO wants a plant in his back yard but it has to be in someone's lol?

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posted March 17, 2011 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AG find some Nascent Iodine if you can.
But you are safe right?

Prayers for Southern California

Obama is now telling everyone to do nothing, do not prepare for the fallout despite what the surgeon general said a week ago.

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