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Mblake81
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posted December 05, 2011 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ1X6uHsfLQ

Some question the value of traditions such as Taoism for modern times.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tao

Dao or Tao is a Chinese word meaning 'way', 'path', 'route', or sometimes more loosely, 'doctrine' or 'principle'. Within the context of traditional Chinese philosophy and religion, Tao is a metaphysical concept originating with Laozi that gave rise to a religion and philosophy referred to in English with the single term Taoism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taoism

Taoism (also spelled Daoism) refers to a philosophical or religious tradition in which the basic concept is to establish harmony with the Tao, which is the mechanism of everything that exists. The word "Tao" is usually translated as "way", "path" or "principle", although the word literally means "nature" as in the nature of all things as well as the natural world. Taoism had not only a profound influence on the culture of China, but also on neighboring countries. While the philosophical Taoism is not institutionalized, the religious Taoism is institutionalized and present in multiple countries. Taoist philosophy is deeply rooted in contemporary China, and is an unavoidable part of modern Chinese life.

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The Hermit Teachers are coming to teach, a notable change. Secrecy being set aside in order to extend a helping hand

Would you see that as part of an aquarian shift?

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posted December 05, 2011 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would differ a little here

The Teachings, Way, Path or Traditions have always been here and available.

When the student is ready

The Aquarian Age would be more in line with humanities consciousness being raised above their material lives to find the Need for a Path and Teachers.

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Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it. ~Rumi~

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posted December 11, 2011 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it. ~Rumi~

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posted December 13, 2011 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Tao of Pooh is a good intro text.

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"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark

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posted December 13, 2011 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Video removed, youtube.

Sorry.

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posted December 13, 2011 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kyballion Hermeticism, The ALL.

http://www.plotinus.com/kybalion_copy.htm

"While All is in THE ALL, it is equally true that THE ALL is in All. To him who truly understands this truth hath come great knowledge."—

How often have the majority of people heard repeated the statement that their Deity (called by many names) was "All in All," and how little have they suspected the inner occult truth concealed by these carelessly uttered words? The commonly used expression is a survival of the ancient Hermetic Maxim quoted above. As the Kybalion says: "To him who truly understands this truth, hath come great knowledge. '' And, this being so, let us seek this truth, the understanding of which means so much. In this statement of truth—this Hermetic Maxim—is concealed one of the greatest philosophical, scientific and religious truths.

http://www.plotinus.com/mysticism1.htm

In Daoism, The Dao

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tao

Within these contexts Tao signifies the primordial essence or fundamental nature of the universe. In the foundational text of Taoism, the Tao Te Ching, Laozi explains that Tao is not a 'name' for a 'thing' but the underlying natural order of the universe whose ultimate essence is difficult to circumscribe. Tao is thus "eternally nameless” and to be distinguished from the countless 'named' things which are considered to be its manifestations.

(The ALL) is encompassing, (the ALL) is encompassed.

http://knol.google.com/k/magus-incognito/taoism/28j2j952x0thj/3#

Overall, expressing your true nature and talents allows the practitioner to be in tune with the TAO. Using opposing forces to your advantage is one of the key elements to the Mental and Physical TAO Philosophy. This is quite similar to the Egyptian and Greek points of the Kyballion Hermetic System. As such, Taoism is a preemptive philosophy that aspires to mitigate problems or optimize success by taking action sooner rather than later.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kybalion

The Kybalion was first published in 1908 by the Yogi Publication Society and is now in the public domain, and can be found on the internet. The book purports to be based upon ancient Hermeticism, though many of its ideas are relatively modern concepts arising from the New Thought movement. The book itself early in reading makes the claim that it makes its appearance in one's life when the time is appropriate and includes variations of material found in the book of Proverbs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Proverbs

The Book of Proverbs (in Hebrew: מִשְלֵי Mish'ley), commonly referred to simply as Proverbs, is a book of the Hebrew Bible. The original Hebrew title of the book of Proverbs is "Míshlê Shlomoh" ("Proverbs of Solomon"). When translated into Greek and Latin, the title took on different forms. In the Greek Septuagint the title became "paroimai paroimiae" ("Proverbs"). In the Latin Vulgate the title was "proverbia", from which the English title of Proverbs is derived.

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The nature of this thing is simple, all the leather to make your shoes is available.

If you want shoes, learn to make them out of the leather.

The shoes will be similar to each other due to the fact that people can only wear a shoe one way. All the different colors, all the different styles, they are still worn on your feet the same way.

Shoes are a wonderful thing, you can survive without them... but

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cody_Lundin

Cody Lundin, is a hardcore naturalist who has worn neither shoes, long pants or underwear in the past 20 years and attempts to live in harmony with nature as much as humanly possible.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Stroud

Les Stroud (born October 20, 1961, in Mimico, Ontario) is a Canadian musician, filmmaker, and survival expert best known as the creator, writer, producer, director, cameraman and host of the television series Survivorman. After a short career behind the scenes in the music industry, Stroud became a full-time wilderness guide, survival instructor and musician based in Huntsville, Ontario. Stroud has produced survival-themed programming for The Outdoor Life Network, The Discovery Channel, The Science Channel, and YTV. The survival skills imparted from watching Stroud's television programs have been cited by several people as the reason they lived through harrowing wilderness ordeals.


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posted December 14, 2011 12:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Survivorman
Lost at Sea
(My favorite)

1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NluTabNpNbQ

2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZAYncIhWTg&feature=related

3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL4CXZsU_EI&feature=related

4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSxFhF6xx6Y&feature=related

5. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-G662O_BQ8&feature=related

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posted December 14, 2011 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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I must perhaps resign myself to having only stolen and brief tastes of happiness,
for it appears that I may never be invited to the feasts.
~LEXX

The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation. What is called resignation is confirmed desperation A stereotyped but unconscious despair is concealed even under what are called the games and amusements of mankind.
~Henry David Thoreau

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posted December 14, 2011 07:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
cool i was just reading this book but it is on diet, sex, breathing, meditation..
http://www.amazon.com/Tao-Health-Sex-Longevity-Practical/dp/067164811X

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posted December 15, 2011 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have that book.

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posted December 16, 2011 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can't say I agree with everything in it.

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posted December 20, 2011 03:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^lotsa "odd" practices for sure!

i skipped the breathing and meditation parts lol!

i noted the diet tho was like an earlier version of this..

http://www.dietsinreview.com/diets/Perricone_Prescription/


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posted December 20, 2011 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good call on shying away from things that make no sense.

I placed many things on the back burner just in case I came into new information that would make sense of them later.

Low heat in other words.

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posted December 21, 2011 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark

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posted December 26, 2011 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4yvVOvvq7M

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posted December 26, 2011 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seMgEls_slw

Alan Watts contrasts the Abrahamic concept of God with the Ancient Chinese concept of Tao; while also paralleling Tao with Einstein's General Relativity theory.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNrRmsXMUOE&feature=related

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posted December 26, 2011 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=HAIBD5mCUhI

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wu_wei

Wu wei is an important concept of Taoism that involves knowing when to act and when not to act. Another perspective to this is that "Wu Wei" means natural action - as planets revolve around the sun, they "do" this revolving, but without "doing" it; or as trees grow, they "do", but without "doing". Thus knowing when (and how) to act is not knowledge in the sense that one would think "now" is the right time to do "this", but rather just doing it, doing the natural thing.

http://taoism.about.com/od/wuwei/a/wuwei.htm

One of Taoism’s most important concepts is wu wei, which is sometimes translated as “non-doing” or “non-action.” A better way to think of it, however, is as a paradoxical “Action of non-action.” Wu wei refers to the cultivation of a state of being in which our actions are quite effortlessly in alignment with the ebb and flow of the elemental cycles of the natural world. It is a kind of “going with the flow” that is characterized by great ease and awake-ness, in which - without even trying - we’re able to respond perfectly to whatever situations arise.

The practice of wu wei is the expression of what in Taoism is considered to be the highest form of virtue – one that is in no way premeditated, but rather arises spontaneously.

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posted January 19, 2012 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Tao Te Ching is short, easy to read, and chock-full of secrets.

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posted January 19, 2012 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 22, 2012 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
The Tao Te Ching is short, easy to read, and chock-full of secrets.


Alan watts, Taoism lecture. About an hour long.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_Wjp9ISIVc

Alan Watts on Carl Jung

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69xtLLtV-xI&feature=related

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posted February 15, 2012 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted February 28, 2012 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 29, 2012 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Alan watts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_Wjp9ISIVc



"...or more skillful still as a sailboat can tack, because when a sailboat tacks and goes in a direction contrary to the wind, it still is using the wind to blow it along. That is the most highly skillful art of all, that is Taoism in perfection. The art of sailing. Very intelligent."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sailing

Sailing is the propulsion of a vehicle and the control of its movement with large (usually fabric) foils called sails. By changing the rigging, rudder, and sometimes centre board, a sailor manages the force of the wind on the sails in order to move the vessel relative to its surrounding medium and change its direction and speed. Mastery of the skill requires experience in varying wind and sea conditions, as well as knowledge concerning sailboats themselves and a keen understanding of one's surroundings.

http://www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae438.cfm

Since the early days of sailing, ships have undergone a continuous improvement in design so that today’s modern sailboats, at casual glance, may give the appearance of having the ability to travel upwind (against the wind). In actuality, a sailboat can not travel directly into the wind but employs sailing technique known as “tacking,” to zigzag across a headwind.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacking_%28sailing%29

Tacking or coming about is a sailing maneuver by which a sailing vessel (which is sailing approximately into the wind) turns its bow through the wind so that the direction from which the wind blows changes from one side to the other. For example, if a vessel is sailing on a starboard tack with the wind blowing from the right side and tacks, it will end up on a port tack with the wind blowing from the left side.

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How to "Tack" a sailboat, In relation to the teachings above, take note of the old man explaining how one of his sails is "tight" and the other one is "loose".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z7yapVQi4A



*Real Gem*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5ClvKhPPto

"Now if you're a cruiser and as lazy as I am, we're gonna do it this way."

I like his honest lazy way. Over & In.

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posted February 29, 2012 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*Note about the last video in the post above, The reason the lazy way works is because the practice has been done, he knows the most efficient method and thus uses it. He also gets to enjoy the scenery more because he doesn't have to focus on managing equipment as much.

Bruce lee used to teach about the economy of movement.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principles_of_motion_economy

The principles of motion economy form a set of rules and suggestions to improve the manual work and reduce fatigue and unnecessary movements by the worker, which can lead to the reduction in the work related trauma.

*The Internet falls into the category of economy because I do not have to travel around to find information.*

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http://blogs.psychcentral.com/positive-psychology/2011/12/put-the -wind-in-your-sails-by-using-your-strengths/

Using our strengths energizes us, and generates enthusiasm and excitement. We will also be more alert and engaged in what we do.

"You got the wind in your sails"

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http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/take+the+wind+out+of+sails

To make you feel less confident or determined.

"The Doldrums"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doldrums

The doldrums are also noted for calm periods when the winds disappear altogether, trapping sail-powered boats for periods of days or weeks.

-Writer's block can be considered a doldrum, but the term can be adapted where needed.-

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind ***

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creativity

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit

"Sail where the winds will take you"

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http://adventure.howstuffworks.com/outdoor-activities/water-sports/sailboat5.htm

When the sails interact with the wind, a lot is also happening underwater (subconscious) to help create lift and allow the craft to recover from tacking. When a boat heels, or tips sideways in one direction when tacking, the keel prevents it from going completely over. (I normally refer to this as the "Hand" to keeps you from going too far.)

Positioned beneath the sailboat(consciousness) toward the center of the hull's underbelly, the keel's broad, flat surface creates sideways force by displacing water in the opposite direction that the boat is tipping. Although the keel has a much smaller surface area than the sails, the density of the water allows it to initiate a force strong enough(Introspection) to cancel out the heeling motion. That resulting equilibrium is called the righting moment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sailing_ballast

Ballast is used in sailboats to provide moment to resist the lateral forces on the sail. Insufficiently ballasted boats will tend to tip, or heel, excessively in high winds Too much heel may result in the boat capsizing. If a sailing vessel should need to voyage without cargo then ballast of little or no value would be loaded to keep the vessel upright. Some or all of this ballast would then be discarded when cargo was loaded.

http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/righting+moment

The torque which tends to restore a vessel heeled over to its upright position.

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Connect these two,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keel

In sailboats, keels use the forward motion of the boat to generate lift to counteract the leeward force of the wind. The rudimentary purpose of the keel is to convert the sideways motion of the wind when it is abeam into forward motion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introspection

Introspection is the self-observation and reporting of conscious inner thoughts, desires and sensations. It is a conscious and purposive process relying on thinking, reasoning, and examining one's own thoughts, feelings, and, in more spiritual cases, one's soul. It can also be called contemplation of one's self, and is contrasted with extrospection, the observation of things external to one's self. Introspection may be used synonymously with and in a similar way to human self-reflection.

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