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BellaFenice
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posted April 30, 2015 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a sadly honest description of how brutality of cops in poverty-stricken neighborhoods in Baltimore have led to mistrust. This is what the tv media has glossed over. Its pretty heartbreaking to see history repeated itself in Baltimore.


A long-simmering mistrust of cops turned to rage against police brutality in Baltimore this week.

Protesters, upset over the in-custody death of 25-year-old Freddie Gray after his April 12 arrest, quickly transformed into looters and rioters. The city burned Monday night and into Tuesday.

Baltimore has seen similar violence before, when black rioters took to the streets after the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr. in 1968. The calamitous demonstrations lasted for eight days and sent white city citizens running for the suburbs.

Since then, poverty has divided Baltimore into “a tale of two cities.”

West Baltimore, a crime-ridden area that was the focus of HBO’s hit show “The Wire” and where Gray died, had an unemployment rate of 19.1% in 2011. The median household income there sat below $25,000, while 33% of its residents, in the West Baltimore zip code of 21217 were receiving food stamps, according to statistics compiled by Forbes.

So stark are the contrasts in modern-day Baltimore that its own police commissioner, on the job for less than three years after moving from California, described it in March as “going back in time.”

The city is 63% black and 24% of residents live below the poverty line, according to The Baltimore Sun.

"When I go to Baltimore, on the East Coast, I'm dealing with 1950s-level black-and-white racism," Police Commissioner Anthony Batts said, according to the Sun. "It's taken a step back. Everything's either black or everything's white, and we're dealing with that as a community."

The racial tension has created a troubled history between the police force and its residents. Since 2011, some 100 people won lawsuits after alleging excessive force, payouts that totaled nearly $6 million, a 2014 investigation by The Baltimore Sun found.

The investigation prompted Batts and Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake to urge the Justice Department to open a probe into the police department in October 2014. Among the incidents under review were the deaths of Anthony Anderson Sr., who died in police custody in September 2012, and Tyrone West, who died during a struggle with police in July 2013.

Officers in both those cases were cleared of wrongdoing.

“I didn't break it, but I'm here to fix it,” Batts said at the time. “The vast majority of this department comes to work each and every day to help make Baltimore a safer city. We know that there is a few of us who are not in alignment with the philosophy that I have set forth for this police agency.”

The city’s paid nearly $6 million more since 2010 in attorney fees to defend itself against the suits. And the settlements could have been significantly higher if not for a Maryland law that limits claims against local governments to no more than $200,000 per suit.

Both men were charged for assaulting a suspect and later convicted — with Crystal testifying at the 2014 trial. The two disgraced cops were tossed from the force while Crystal, a member of the violent crime unit, was harassed and labeled as a snitch until he quit in August.
Victims include a 15-year-old boy riding a dirt bike, a 26-year-old pregnant accountant who had witnessed a beating, a 50-year-old woman selling church raffle tickets, a 65-year-old church deacon rolling a cigarette and an 87-year-old grandmother aiding her wounded grandson,” the newspaper reported.

“Those cases detail a frightful human toll. Officers have battered dozens of residents who suffered broken bones — jaws, noses, arms, legs, ankles — head trauma, organ failure, and even death, coming during questionable arrests. Some residents were beaten while handcuffed; others were thrown to the pavement.”

At least one officer who tried to do the right thing was forced to resign. Former Baltimore Detective Joseph Crystal was a rising star in the department until he reported a 2011 case of police brutality against colleagues Anthony Williams and Sgt. Marinos Gialamas.

Crystal has since filed a lawsuit against the department, claiming it failed to protect him from retaliation after he blew the whistle on his fellow officers.

“Looking back, I still can’t fathom what happened,” Crystal told the Daily News in January. “How do you honestly expect people to have faith, to trust the cops, when they let this happen?”

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posted April 30, 2015 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm going to try to keep this as brief as I can, but I've been asked by several people about Central Booking today, so I'll give you guys the shocking highlights. As much as I'd like to, I can't describe the particulars of some of the more egregious arrests, due to attorney/client privilege issues, but I would like to describe the Civil Liberties violations, and the deplorable conditions which people have had to endure.

As many of you know, more than 250 people have been arrested since Monday here in Baltimore. Normally when you are arrested, you are given a copy of your charging documents and then you must see a commissioner within 24 hours for a bail determination ("prompt presentment") and given a trial date. If you are not released after the commissioner hearing, you will be brought before a judge for 
a review of the bail set by the commissioner. None of this was happening, so we sent some lawyers to Central Booking yesterday to try to help. I heard, however, that only 2 commissioners showed up, and the correctional officers only brought about 9 people to be interviewed because the jail was on a mysterious "lock-down".

Today we were divided into two groups. Some of the lawyers were assigned the task of actually doing judicial bail reviews for as many folks as they could get interviewed and docketed. I was assigned to the other group. We were the "habeas team", and we were to interview folks that we felt were being illegally detained, so we could file writs of habeas corpus. Governor Hogan had issued an 
executive order, extending the time for prompt presentment to 47 hours. We believed that this order was invalid because the governor has no authority to alter the Maryland Rules. As a result, all people who were being detained for more than 24 hours without seeing a commissioner were being held illegally.

Knowing all of this, I was still not prepared for what I saw when I arrived. The small concrete booking cells were filled with hundreds of people, most with more than ten people per cell. Three of us were sent to the women's side where there were up to 15 women per holding cell. Most of them had been there since Monday afternoon/evening. With the exception of 3 or 4 women, the women who weren't there for Monday's round-ups were there for freaking curfew violations. Many had not seen a doctor or received required medication. Many had not been able to reach a family member by phone. But here is the WORST thing. Not only had these women been held for two days and two nights without any sort of formal booking, BUT ALMOST NONE OF THEM HAD ACTUALLY BEEN CHARGED WITH ANYTHING. They were brought to CBIF via paddy wagons (most without seat belts, btw--a real shocker after all that's happened), and taken to holding cells without ever being charged with an actual crime. No offense reports. No statements of probable cause. A few women had a vague idea what they might be charged with, some because of what they had actually been involved in, and some because of what the officer said, but quite a few had no idea why they were even there. Incidentally, I interviewed no one whose potential charges would have been more serious than petty theft, and most seemed to be disorderly conduct or failure to obey, charges which would usually result in an immediate recog/release.

The holding cells are approximately 10x10 (some slightly larger), with one open sink and toilet. The women were instructed that the water was "bad" and that they shouldn't drink it. There are no beds--just a concrete cube. No blankets or pillows. The cells were designed to hold people for a few hours, not a few days. In the one cell which housed 15 women, there wasn't even enough room for them all to lay down at the same time. Three times a day, the guards brought each woman 4 slices of bread, a slice of american cheese and a small bag of cookies. They sometimes got juice, but water was scarce, as the CO's had to wheel a water cooler through every so often (the regular water being "broken".)

My fellow attorneys and I all separately heard the same sickening story over and over. None of the women really wanted to eat 4 slices of bread 3 times a day, so they were saving slices of bread TO USE AS PILLOWS. Let me say that again. THEY WERE ALL USING BREAD AS PILLOWS SO THAT THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO LAY THEIR HEADS ON THE FILTHY CONCRETE FLOOR.

Interviewing these women was emotionally exhausting. Quite a few of them began crying--so happy to finally see someone who might know why they were there, or perhaps how they might get out of this Kafka-esque nightmare. These women came from all walks of life. We interviewed high school students, college students, people with graduate degrees, people with GED's, single women, married women, 
mothers, the well-employed, the unemployed, black women and white women. Almost all of them had no record. Those that did, had things like dui's and very minor misdemeanors. Our group didn't interview any of the men on the other side, but my colleagues reported very similar situations. On the men's side there were journalists and activists, as well as highschool kids with no records, barely 18 years old.

As we were getting ready to leave, we heard that many of these folks might be released without charges, after being held for 2 days. When we returned to the office, our amazing "habeas fellow", Zina Makar, single-handedly filed 82 habeas petitions. That is when we heard that 101 people were released without charges. I'd like to think that the amazing legal response to this injustice played a large part in their release, and I feel privileged to have been a part of it. They may be charged later, but I'm guessing most of them won't based on how minor their alleged infractions are. There are still over a hundred folks in there that need to see a commissioner and/or a judge, but hopefully we have thinned the ranks a little, and we will keep fighting until everyone has received due process. (We are concerned about these folks potential bails, as we are hearing about bails in the hundreds of thousands of dollars for misdemeanor charges).

I'll wrap this up by reminding everyone that all lives matter. We are all human beings. And we are Americans, and as such we are afforded protections under the law, the guilty and innocent alike. If one person is denied due process, we all suffer. If one persons rights and freedoms are trampled on, it's not only a reflection on all of us, but it puts our own liberty at risk. The moment we view some individuals as more important than others, we cheapen ourselves. At the very essence of our democracy is the right to question and stand up to authority. During these trying times, we should all keep that in mind.

I'll leave you with a beautiful picture that was taken today of one of the women who was released without charges. Her husband had been waiting outside CBIF trying to find something...ANYTHING out about when she might be charged or released. This was taken moments after she walked out the door.....

..s shared Marci Tarrant Johnson's photo.


The photo is of a white couple being reunited outside the jail

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posted April 30, 2015 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WOW, I am disgusted! Where did you find this Catalina? Unbelievable.

I'll wrap this up by reminding everyone that all lives matter. We are all human beings. And we are Americans, and as such we are afforded protections under the law, the guilty and innocent alike. If one person is denied due process, we all suffer. If one persons rights and freedoms are trampled on, it's not only a reflection on all of us, but it puts our own liberty at risk. The moment we view some individuals as more important than others, we cheapen ourselves. At the very essence of our democracy is the right to question and stand up to authority. During these trying times, we should all keep that in mind.

Excellent end to the article as well.

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posted April 30, 2015 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Shared on FB by, i believe, the writer, a lawyer

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posted April 30, 2015 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
None of these comments are thinking for yourselves. I know you will not understand what I am saying.

I can liken it to Nazi Germany before Hitler took over.

No one( or few) would SEE it. Once, power was seized, it was too late.

Once Hitler disarmed the populace, then power was seized.

You notice HOW badly Obama wants guns.

Racism is used/manufactured by people who want power over "little people" and especially "little people" who will believe what is put forth for them, while the true agenda goes under the radar.


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posted April 30, 2015 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eirlys     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
None of these comments are thinking for yourselves. I know you will not understand what I am saying.

I can liken it to Nazi Germany before Hitler took over.

No one( or few) would SEE it. Once, power was seized, it was too late.

Once Hitler disarmed the populace, then power was seized.

You notice HOW badly Obama wants guns.

Racism is used/manufactured by people who want power over "little people" and especially "little people" who will believe what is put forth for them, while the true agenda goes under the radar.


The proliferation of the 'events' via social media

copy-paste is effortless.

And it's free!

Great setup.


On your other point, if they had not already succumbed,

in large part: Warsaw Ghetto.

Makes you wonder.

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posted May 01, 2015 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Obama has been strangely easygoing on guns so no point in trying to change the subject to that. And the Nazis have far more in common with the right wing in the USA than the left, all things considered. Not that I'd be so crass as to equate the right with Nazi Germany, that's as absurd as doing that to the left...or even to Obama who is this on that libertarian chart (which I know is too simplistic, though still better than the usual ways to measure left & right in the US, and will suffice for this):

the chart position explained with an excerpt here:

quote:
The Democratic incumbent has surrounded himself with conservative advisors and key figures — many from previous administrations, and an unprecedented number from the Trilateral Commission. He also appointed a former Monsanto executive as Senior Advisor to the FDA. He has extended Bush tax cuts for the wealthy, presided over a spiralling rich-poor gap and sacrificed further American jobs with recent free trade deals. Trade union rights have also eroded under his watch. He has expanded Bush defence spending, droned civilians, failed to close Guantanamo, supported the NDAA which effectively legalises martial law, allowed drilling and adopted a soft-touch position towards the banks that is to the right of European Conservative leaders. Taking office during the financial meltdown, Obama appointed its principle architects to top economic positions. We list these because many of Obama's detractors absurdly portray him as either a radical liberal or a socialist, while his apologists, equally absurdly, continue to view him as a well-intentioned progressive, tragically thwarted by overwhelming pressures. 2008 yes-we-can chanters, dazzled by pigment rather than policy detail, forgot to ask can what?

In any case I do get sick of seeing the same brainwashed sheeple calling everyone else brainwashed sheeple. Especially when it's meant to change the subject to something other than what the thread was supposed to be around so that one could pretend to have answered it without touching the actual material.

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posted May 01, 2015 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As for the ACTUAL TOPIC I can mention something about Houston which likes to cover up its history as much as it can. When I was a kid there was a race riot because a black security guard was shot to death by a Houston cop and it turned out the cop was OPENLY a member of various white supremacist organizations and had filled out why he wanted to be a cop as "so I can shoot people." He'd applied in other Texas cities and had been rejected by all but Houston.

And going by what I saw I'm not surprised when even in 1998 I was walking with a black guy when a cop stopped us to grill him (and me as well, but mostly him) as if he was intending me harm and if I was having sex with him ('course the cops left the black pimps with white girls in the stable alone as long as they paid their protection money to the appropriate people who could hire and fire individual cops through their proxies and puppets). That was frightening for me, and much more so for him...and he popped an attitude to us whites who were his friends for a couple days after that despite that he was with us because he ran away from home to be with his white girlfriend (who had also run away from home...I was a runaway myself at the time).

This was years after the race riot I mentioned after it had supposedly been "cleaned up" and given how the advice I was given when the police hassled us runaways was "if there's a minority, run away from the minority, especially if he's black" turned out to be true (I tried it, though the police did call for backup to get the rest of us as well which I only barely evaded) I can believe the rumors that the KKK had a lot of sway with the cops there, at least in that district (Lower Westheimer). But of course no one wanted to talk about it (and it wasn't just cops, many gangs, including black gangs, also promoted the racism and didn't like to see blacks mixing with whites either).

Yet I can't find anything about that race riot, the media stories have just vanished (granted, it was the early 90s).

'Course the police have squashed other things, too, like once some shot a runaway white boy apparently for sport. The boy's family hired a PI who traced the gun the boy supposedly pulled on the cops to find it had been part of the evidence room and eventually busted the officers involved. They made a movie out of it but at least as of the 90s you could only see it on cable, even if listed in the TV Guide the local station always played a different movie. 'Course far worse happens to but never made it into a movie.

Texas History was like that as well. It was very sugar coated leaving out much of the racial violence and oppression (through strangely also Sam Houston's attempt to combat that but then I suppose that would admit there was a problem) and even ignored the epic Houston riot of 1917 which was definitely of historical note...and completely swept under the carpet (at least by Houston schools).

I hear it's better in Houston today but I don't know, especially as Houston at least loves to sweep their own history under the carpet and give false reports of how fine everything is rather than learn from history and make genuine changes. If it became "the next Baltimore" I wouldn't be surprised. I expect that race riot I can't find anything about now would've been major news had the internet been around back then to the same level it is today.

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posted May 01, 2015 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Due process of the Law of the Land (not God's law mind you) is the RIGHT of every American.

Point being, the State started this, the State would prefer for everyone to remain silent and "wait for an official report" which of course will exhonerate the cops

And of course there will be a lawsuit, which of course will be settled out of court in MD there is a 200k cap on awards

And then the whole episode goes away

After all, American idol..right?

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posted May 01, 2015 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What kills me is how people want to argue about sh*t that doesn't matter. I keep seeing people posting statistics on Facebook about how many people of different races are getting killed by cops. Their argument is all these different races are getting killed by the police and aren't rioting. So basically they are taking a jab at the black community and supporting the police at the same time. How f*cking stupid!!!!
I don't give a sh*t if the people the cops are murdering are white, black, purple, green,or red. The fact of the matter is cops shouldn't be killing anyone. The cops in this country are out of control and need to be kept in check. One of my family members had cops storm into his home, armed with machine guns, and seized everything he owned. They did all of this without a warrant! People need to wake up. This type of sh*t happens everyday. Wake up people.

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
What kills me is how people want to argue about sh*t that doesn't matter. I keep seeing people posting statistics on Facebook about how many people of different races are getting killed by cops. Their argument is all these different races are getting killed by the police and aren't rioting. So basically they are taking a jab at the black community and supporting the police at the same time. How f*cking stupid!!!!
I don't give a sh*t if the people the cops are murdering are white, black, purple, green,or red. The fact of the matter is cops shouldn't be killing anyone. The cops in this country are out of control and need to be kept in check. One of my family members had cops storm into his home, armed with machine guns, and seized everything he owned. They did all of this without a warrant! People need to wake up. This type of sh*t happens everyday. Wake up people.

I brought up legal, armed resistance and it was

ignored, utterly.


What do you propose?

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posted May 01, 2015 02:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
None of these comments are thinking for yourselves. I know you will not understand what I am saying.

I can liken it to Nazi Germany before Hitler took over.

No one( or few) would SEE it. Once, power was seized, it was too late.

Once Hitler disarmed the populace, then power was seized.

You notice HOW badly Obama wants guns.

Racism is used/manufactured by people who want power over "little people" and especially "little people" who will believe what is put forth for them, while the true agenda goes under the radar.


I am still deeply shook by your comments from yesterday, the fact you can claim people are pitiful for caring about humanity is beyond me. The fact you just wrote the above information and showed no care or remorse for those involved is beyond disgusting.

You can seriously read about how kids were unloaded off of buses and faced an army, hundreds of people being placed in jail with NO charges and facing deplorable settings, impoverished kids not getting their lunches and instead feeding the 'heroes,' and yet you are still claiming we are focusing on the wrong things?

So what is it about free speech that I am not protecting? Racism? Classism? Bigotry? Ignorance? Hate?

It is really that much of an imposition to you that I want to live in a world where racism and classism are dismantled? That my best friend, who is black, doesn't have to be racially profiled when walking at the street at night? That protesters won't be called thugs or savages for simply speaking up for their rights? Or that innocent people like Freddie Gray do not have to die unjust deaths anymore?

Do you have any black friends? Have you personally experienced racial discrimination? Being privileged often keeps you from looking behind your back and seeing the issue. Acknowledge your privilege, become educated, and take action to make the world a better place.

Do you not see how badly you are coming off right now? Would it kill you for once to be human? What exactly is that that I am failing to think for myself on?

Do not compare Nazi Germany to what is going on right now in the US. Your comparison is pretty darn clear- you are likening Obama to Hitler which makes no sense-I suggest you look at PixieJane's picture. Obama actually wants to control gun usage, which is smart considering too many guns get into the wrong hands (re: Adam Lanza). Either way, this tangent is irrelevant and completely self-centered, and deflects from the real issue here.

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posted May 01, 2015 02:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@PJ, great information about Houston! I have heard some of that before, but your post was certainly informative.

@AG, I mostly agree with you. The brutality of cops has gotten way out of hand. I really don't understand why they are allowed to throw tear gas, drive around in big warfare machines, and sweep a lot of things under the rug. Sorry to hear about your family member, that sounds scary as heck.

To me race matters because black males are 21 times more likely than their white peers to be killed. All lives matter, so we need to put everyone on a equal playing field. I'm not surprised by those people on FB you are talking about.

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Either way, this tangent is irrelevant and completely self-centered, and deflects from the real issue here.

It IS the real issue, my Friend. The US is a beacons of freedom in this world. YOU can go to school. YOU can wear the clothes you want. YOU have sexual freedom. YOU can criticize the government.

YOU can talk like you are now. YOU take it all for granted like you would throw a used tissue out the car window.

It won't always be here for you if you can't think for yourself

All governments engender "useful idiots "when they are trying to do clandestine things that they want to distract from.

The useful idiots carry the banner.

THAT IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT!

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quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[b] Either way, this tangent is irrelevant and completely self-centered, and deflects from the real issue here.

It IS the real issue, my Friend. The US is a beacons of freedom in this world. YOU can go to school. YOU can choose a husband. YOU have sexual freedom. YOU can criticize the government.

YOU can talk like you are now. YOU take it all for granted like you would throw a used tissue out the car window.

It won't always be here for you if you can't think for yourself.It won't always be here for you if you don't dial your arrogance down MANY notches and try to learn, rather than run your mouth.

THAT IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT!

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Sorry,
I have to disagree with this. The U.S has the largest prison population in the world by far, it's not even close. How can a country that prides itself on being free incarcerate so many people?

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This is WRONG, AG. I know you have suffered from a terrible wrong and it was not your fault or your dad's.

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
This is WRONG, AG. I know you have suffered from a terrible wrong and it was not your fault or your dad's.


Ami,
I think it's important that people talk about police brutality and make a big deal of it. Just last year here in Knoxville a cop got caught on camera choking a college student. The picture spread like wildfire on Facebook and people raised hell about it and that cop ended up getting fired. That sort of power abuse by cops happens everyday in the U.S and more people need to be making a big deal out of it or it will only get worse.

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Police brutality is very, very, very bad and YOU know it more than anyone but police brutality is COVERING a much larger issue. It is masking it.

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[b] Either way, this tangent is irrelevant and completely self-centered, and deflects from the real issue here.

It IS the real issue, my Friend. The US is a beacons of freedom in this world. YOU can go to school. YOU can wear the clothes you want. YOU have sexual freedom. YOU can criticize the government.

YOU can talk like you are now. YOU take it all for granted like you would throw a used tissue out the car window.

It won't always be here for you if you can't think for yourself

All governments engender "useful idiots "when they are trying to do clandestine things that they want to distract from.

The useful idiots carry the banner.

THAT IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT!

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This is the issue. I will not talk about the "front" issues.

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posted May 01, 2015 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami,
I've said it before and I'll say it again. The real issue in this country is classism, not sexism or racism.

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posted May 01, 2015 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Police brutality is nothing new. You just werent forced to notice it before. It might even become relevant to your bubble some day coming to you soon. Got your gun yet ..and your target practice? Just why is it ok for white people who can afford guns to arm themselves, but when an unarmed person throws a brick they are thugs? Who do you think is going to make your gun necessary? Will you refuse to consider "front" issues when they come through your door without warrant or warning? What would you do if you were blocked from leaving your house by a swat team as these kids were at their school the other day? Stand up to power or call your lawyer (if you are allowed)?

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posted May 01, 2015 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[b] Either way, this tangent is irrelevant and completely self-centered, and deflects from the real issue here.

It IS the real issue, my Friend. The US is a beacons of freedom in this world. YOU can go to school. YOU can wear the clothes you want. YOU have sexual freedom. YOU can criticize the government.

YOU can talk like you are now. YOU take it all for granted like you would throw a used tissue out the car window.

It won't always be here for you if you can't think for yourself

All governments engender "useful idiots "when they are trying to do clandestine things that they want to distract from.

The useful idiots carry the banner.

THAT IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT!

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The country, whose rulers designed and executed MK Ultra, is a beacon of freedom.

Now that's just silly.

The documents are freely available online, should you wish to investigate.

That's before we even get to creating wars to justify their arms industry. "Terrorism", indeed.

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posted May 01, 2015 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
While all the useful idiots are accepting the front story, do you know what this is about?

This is about nationalizing the police? Do YOU want a nationalized police force?

Yes or No?

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posted May 01, 2015 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Furthermore, do any of you know what "net neutrality" did, in easy to understand terms?

It was taking your freedom of speech from the internet and allowing the government to monitor and sanction your speech to make it "fair"

Do you want the government to determine which of your speech is "fair?

Maybe, you do.

If so, keep paying attention to the front stories because you are doing everything little sheeple are supposed to.

While you accept the front stories, something like this slips by you?

Get the point, yet

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posted May 01, 2015 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Questions?

Do you want a country in which people can SAY what they want? Free speech?

Yes or No?

If a teacher lost his job for SAYING something about Obama, do you want that?


Yes or No?

Do you even KNOW your rights are being taken away while you "protest" the stories that fed to you like gerbils?


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