posted January 21, 2017 10:03 PM              

they look like a regular black or asian person, yet they get more appraise then the rest.

take trevor noah, black talk show host. very popular. many watch him. barack obama, half white.

it's white genetics. there was for the first time, i find this asian guy really funny and i can relate to him. he is doing something really relateable. in the comments i find out he is half white. so that is why.

there is another popular youtube singer, semi-famous, she looks regularily asian. but i really like her and enjoy the music, i find out she is half white as well.

posted January 23, 2017 12:33 AM            

Speaking of which, I knew a Vietnamese girl who was raised from infancy in Texas by white parents. Ignoring her skin you'd have never guessed where she was from (born in Vietnam) by how she talked, moved, acted.

I've also known people from other nations who become very frustrated when filling out forms in the United States because our definition of race is so different from theirs. I know many will determine these things visually. For example, a friend I had was called Hispanic or even Mexican because of her surname and her skin color, but her accent and behavior was completely assimilated that I just sort of saw her as "a white person with a tan" (more accurately I didn't even think of it and was surprised that she was having problems because others did). And it's kinda funny how many don't realize Cameron Diaz is Hispanic.

Culture is more important than race in common behaviors (and economics and background even more important than culture), but I don't feel like explaining it as it seems so basic (and ditto for how seasons affect about everyone in the world, not just people in the northern regions), and there are also many exceptions regardless of even that. It might be fun to look into how the Scandinanvians changed over time, from the warlike time when they aggressively expanded (and were known to raid and fight during spring and summer while women and slaves tended to crops until their return, and winter was a time for trapping, hunting, and more fishing), and when the eldest sons got the inheritance which made it dangerous to be a surviving elder son to being fairly laid back and restrained today. The conversion of the Scandinavians to Christianity was utterly brutal as well (and that includes Scandinavian Christians brutalizing others who didn't convert), and then there was the Swedish Empire.

Another interesting bit is when expats settle elsewhere will hold onto the old ways while their home nation will evolve much faster, something I can see in my mother's side of the family with its Swedish roots who'd fit in pretty easy with the Swedes a century ago (overlooking the language barrier), but would be seen as savage and boorish today by many modern Swedes. (I could say the same about my father's side of the family that's Scots-Irish.) Even with the change in the Swedes (and much of Europe since the end of the Cold War) I'm surprised anyone would define the white race as being peaceful. World history would be very different (and wouldn't dominate in the North America, and probably not in Europe either) if that were the case.

posted January 23, 2017 03:10 AM              

i dont think there is another wrong with labelling race as the genes and not the country. i dont know why it's important, but it does seem important.

posted January 28, 2017 11:46 AM            

I'll try and expand my mind with these innovative pearls of wisdom:

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Black people might seem like they like to fight more so than most. But it is not a sign of primitivity

This is why africans are so confrontational, they look and think of you directly, and nothing else.

If you want to get along good with a black person, do not avoid eye contact, do not try to ignore them and leave. If you want to get along, face them head on, push your feelings out. They will recognize this and it will help them feel more at home.

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The troubling thing isn't the racist buls*it you spouted, its the fact that no one else challenged it.

posted January 28, 2017 01:18 PM              

Racist quoted: a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another."

If cougars were more aggressive, it's not an insult, it's a fact.

If you think something is innaccurate, feel free to bring it up. I know there is differences in genetics hence why I feel strong relatability to half white people even before i know they are half white, they looked full asian to me or full black then i find out they arent. This isn't racist but a notice of reality. You can ignore reality all you want but in the meantime I'll be furthering understanding.

If something is inaccurate in your opinion feel free to say. Whether black people do enjoy fighting more, which i was saying they found it fun and natural to fight more so than average because they evolved practicing those features, and not out of anger but out of sport and fun.

posted January 28, 2017 01:47 PM            

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Originally posted by soren:
are you black? i guess you are. i didnt think black were really that primitive, but you are showing maybe they are. there is differences in each races behaviour, and it is from how we evolved. i never said any certain race was 'bad' that they are how they are.

If cougars were more aggressive, it's not an insult, it's a fact.

Whether black people do enjoy fighting more, which i was saying they found it fun and natural to fight more so than average because they evolved practicing those features, and not out of anger but out of sport and fun.

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Ha! This is definitely a bait post! My bad for getting sucked in

posted January 28, 2017 09:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Deliverance:
The troubling thing isn't the racist buls*it you spouted, its the fact that no one else challenged it.

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That's because it's soren. Soren operates under this belief that if he FEELS it then it MUST be true no matter what, which is coupled by an especially strong Aquarian stubbornness. To argue him is just to get him to repeat himself over and over again as if he feels that's somehow convincing (probably thinks if no one argues him then they're agreeing). Though as you see, he does have a major ego (which probably is an aspect of his stubbornness).

Soren is constantly spouting crazy and simplistic stuff, though some days he's more lucid than others. I believe soren is literally schizophrenic or something of that nature (as opposed to an attention seeking troll), and as with many who suffer such episodes, it comes and goes (and some poor medication habits may be involved). When I personally replied, I was actually replying to others in this thread rather than soren himself. He's got a few fans, though I can't tell if they're genuinely that gullible or just encouraging him out of some sense of pity.

And what if I did choose to argue him? I could point out the effects of economics and disenfranchisement and systematic oppression has on people of any race, as shown in US and Canadian history, but as he doesn't know about that it doesn't exist for him. I could point out how those who successfully use psychology in marketing and politics don't homogenize into races or gender, but he'd simply say they were idiots (no matter how successful they are). I could describe the incredible violent brutality of white people throughout history, and how the seasons do affect those in India and Africa, and also how most anthropologists and even geneticists disagree with him. Hell, I could spout on several racial issues he brought up, but as he doesn't FEEL it, then it doesn't matter, and he'd just repeat himself until he thought no one dared challenged his views anymore. So there's no point, and I think most people understand soren is...soren.

That said, I personally think soren crossed a line with this (both as a personal attack, and pretty much a racist attack to boot which violates the supposed spirit of his own thread, and note that Deliverance has shown contempt for the message soren shares here, while soren has shown contempt for Deliverance as a person):

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Originally posted by soren:
are you black? i guess you are. i didnt think black were really that primitive, but you are showing maybe they are

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posted January 29, 2017 02:20 AM            

What I perceived as racist (besides your silly stereotypes that I've chosen to overlook) is that you assumed Deliverance is black to have taken offense (and thus you brought race into it), and then your "they are" as if blacks are a homogenized group with little in the way of individuality. But going by how you're explaining "race" and behavior I can see how it's not from your perspective. (Even so, it's still a personal attack on her, whereas she was offended by your message for what I consider perfectly rational reasons, she attacked the message, you attacked the person, in part by incorporating race in your attack on her.)

And btw, even "positive racism" can be bad. For example, Asian Americans are typically seen as naturally smart and hard workers, which means many are skipped over from getting the help and individualized attention they may need in schooling and training, and also more ashamed to ask for help. More on that:
http://www.education.com/reference/article/unraveling-minority-myth-asian-students/

posted January 29, 2017 02:43 AM              

and when i asked if they were black, it had to do with if they should truly be getting mad or not. i want to know a black person's perspective. like a cougar wouldnt care if you called it a strong aggressive thing, it would probably enjoy it cause it's true. if she's not black then it probably goes along the lines of situations i heard where people get annoyed that you are defending them when they dont even care about it themselves.

that was why i was asking.

the biggest thing to take away from this post, was to take most of the descriptions lightly, but more so think when you look at a black person, or whatever race, just for example, even white, you are looking at a person who's ancestors evolved for thousands and thousands of years in a set environment (not always, obviously). so you are looking at someone who lived with snow for thousands of years, and that reflects in their behaviour.

really i felt deliverance had attacked, although felt to prideful i suppose to try to actually argue. when i should just be 'wrong'.

posted January 29, 2017 02:59 AM              

while i also do notice some of the people who have these amazing potent and exciting personalities on this site; are also people who are black.

so i might think they lack some thinking skills that white people possess. if i can't be open about my honest feelings, then how am i ever going to move forward.

humans practice rascism on animals like slugs. we think we are smarter than them, but that doesn't mean that we do not like them or think they deserve any less than what they have.

posted January 29, 2017 03:02 AM              

and yes i do think it is better to be honest with your feelings.

posted January 31, 2017 11:08 AM              

i'm not that simple minded, i am looking beyond skin colour to personality, and bevahiour, as intelligent and complex as it sounds, i am doing that.

basing it on that, and not skin colour.