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lalalinda
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posted December 11, 2004 06:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello L.S

Heres your thread Sweetie, Interesting chart. For someone who is so light and airy, you'd never know you had 2 intense conjunctions Sun/Pluto and Moon/Saturn. You can thank your Gemini Ascendant and your Mars in Gemini, it makes you cerebral. Lots of mind games (in a good way of course) We would never get anywhere in life if there was no friction to work through (that comes later) for now lets check out your ascendant.

Gemini Ascendant


(Jeanne Avery)

Life is never dull around a Gemini rising. One with this personable rising sign can keep you entertained for hours on end because he can't stand to be bored himself. He needs constant mental stimulation because his active mind simply will not rest. Therefore, you'll find him surrounded by people, activity, and exciting situations. His keynote may well be: 'Life is just a bowl of cherries'. He is witty, amusing, and lots of fun.

The ruler of Gemini is the planet Mercury. This is the planet that indicates mentality, thought, speech. Since Gemini is an Air sign, the swiftness of the intellect is even more pronounced. The person with this ascendant is a fascinating conversationalist, as words and ideas are his speciality. The word 'mercurial' fits his facile mentality to a tee.

In mythology, Mercury was the messenger of the gods. Mercury was the servant and beloved of Jupiter. even though he frequently chose to use situations to his own end, he remained the interpreter to whom many secrets were entrusted. He could move with the speed of lightning and excelled in mental agility. It was very difficult, if not impossible, to pin him down and capture him. This analogy can help one understand the individual with Gemini ascending, as the personality can be puckish, mischievous, and tricky. Yet he bears no malice and holds no grudges. Like Mercury, he is hard to pin down, as his safety depends on quick flight. He can switch gears so quickly that you'll be unaware of what's happened. You're still pondering one situation while he has ascended to another plane and is off on another tack. You'll have to be on your toes at all times just to keep up with him. You may be in big trouble if you try to outsmart him, or enter into a contest of wit or will. Just occasionally, however, he goes one step too far and outsmarts himself.

The symbol of Gemini is the twins. A Gemini is accused of having a dual personality; indeed, he may actually be fickle. He probably feels safer if he has two situations in his life at once, whether in his personal life or in his business life. He can certainly switch gears and do two jobs more easily than someone less agile. However, the true duality has to do with his need to be close and his need to be objective at the same time. He is a walking example of the closeness-freedom syndrome. On the one hand, he needs love almost more than most people, but the minute he allows himself to become truly close to someone, his freedom is endangered. He then must pull away to become more objective.

Venus is the esoteric ruler of this sign. The person with Gemini rising is really looking for his true love. He searches endlessly, perhaps without really knowing why. He may not consciously feel he is lacking in any way. But in an intimate situation he keeps one eye on the horizon, just in case his true, true love should appear. It may be difficult for him to express his need for love, so his safety depends on his lack of total commitment. He is poised for flight at all times. He may be fickle only on a mental level, but you can be sure he has explored many avenues of exciting fantasy in his mind. His standard of virtue may be slightly different from that which is generally presumed. He can experiment in many ways without feeling the least bit disloyal. In fact, he would be astonished if you accused him of neglecting those close to him, even when his wandering eye takes him into deep water. He can be happily married and still need to have a tiny corner of his mind open to new possibilities. If the Gemini rising is truly in love, however, it is forever. If he feels safety in that love, he will devote himself unstintingly to its cause. His whole life will respond to the excitement of that attachment. He will be totally and wholly committed. He won't have to resort to words to express his feelings, for there is no-one so obviously ardent in love as the one with Gemini rising. It shines through his whole being when it's real. That may be the one time when words desert him altogether, for he'll have no need of their protection.

All signs have a negative and a positive expression, but perhaps none is more extreme and varied than with Gemini rising. Since it is a dual sign to begin with, its duality takes on interesting colors. The level of evolution seems to manifest itself in the kind of mental activity he indulges in. The evolved type is dedicated to the uplifting of humanity. His keen insight and brilliance of achievement can produce great literature, drama, and poetry. His dynamic personality can vitalize words that remain meaningless otherwise. Some of the greatest contributions to literature, politics, music, and theatre have come from those with Gemini rising. When one with this ascendant is given a mission of the noblest nature, he is activated to use his brilliant mind to reach humanity on a profound level, but he must use his mental energy in constructive ways or his restlessness can get him into trouble.

The negative expression of the personality reveals a gossip, an instigator, and a game player. He can enjoy attracting people for the sake of the attention and to see what he can get from them. He is good at keeping others on a string, just for the fun of seeing how much he can rope them in and out. He may have the unfortunate tendency to run away from the very people who care the most. He can be a will-o'-the-wisp. The grass may always look greener on the other side of the fence. In his quest for exciting adventure, he may not care who gets hurt in the bargain. He is less concerned with others' feelings than with his own need for activity and variety. He can use people to his own ends. Actually, he is only concerned with his own life, his own observations, and his needs. He talks only about himself and his interest - and that barrage of words and frantic need for activity may well prevent him from standing still long enough to really face himself.

If he understands his true nature, it can be through this very restlessness that the Gemini rising learns and grows. In esoteric terms, the symbol of the twins is truly the duality of the human condition. Each man is both body and soul. When the inner adventure begins, and true integration occurs, the Gemini rising becomes one. The pull of the pair of polar opposites can be intense, causing the Gemini rising to swing rapidly like a pendulum, until he understands the necessity of bringing the spiritual and the mundane together within himself. His spiritual needs become as strong as his need to experience life. He finally learns how to provide himself with what he truly requires to become whole and fulfilled. He realizes that his true yearning and searching is for union with his inner and higher self. His spiritual growth becomes profound. True integration means never being bored again.

Until that time, it may appear that the Gemini rising talks from both sides of his mouth. That may very well be true. He not only sees both sides of the coin; he lives them. The confusion inside this individual can be profound until he has found his way. At the extreme, scizophrenic personalities exhibit some of these tendencies. The duality with the Gemini rising may be so intense that he cannot face some of the things he is doing, so he blocks out the negative and hides behind the positive. Avoidance of the ultimate experience of integration compels him to keep things moving in a very fast way. When he has had enough of the less than savory experiences he finds himself attracted to, he can come full swing and express his need for adventure in a different way. His total devotion to family and friends is obvious. He delivers a high spiritual and moral message by his behavior. He shares his depth of understanding and his joy.

This person should be allowed to follow an apparently erratic course, as this eventually leads him to his highest expression. He can appear irresponsible at times, as he will not allow himself to be trapped under heavy and dampening pressures. Drudgery or routine can squalch his enthusiasm and spirit faster than anything else. He needs to be valued and appreciated, but can't handle obligation. He may not be much help when sickness or problems arise. If pressure is brought to bear, or life temporarily deals him a difficult hand, this person may disappear for a period of time in order to sort things out and solve his own problems by himself. He will use this quiet time to restore his perspective, gather his thoughts, recoup his boundless energy. He may look for greener pastures occasionally, just to test his theories, charm, and magnetism. He wants to be sure they still work so he can come back to you a more interesting personality. He may also pull away to remind you, in his own subtle way, that you really need him. Life can be a lot less colorful without him around.

When he is not on safe ground, or is in a less than safe situation, he can remove himself without ever leaving the scene. If this person decides to shut you out, his usual warmth disappears behind a cloud, and the chill that is left is very penetrating. You may wonder what you've said to displease him, or you may suspect he is angry or upset. If you force the attention back to you, he can resent the intrusion. He may not really know he has left you so far out in the cold; and then again, he may want to see how much he can get away with before you protest. Or he may simply be scared and feel the need to take a brief vacation from the threat of the moment.

Part of his enormous appeal and magnetism is that you never know quite where you stand with this individual. Just when you're about to take your relationship for granted, you'll find him behaving in his distant manner. When you decide he's bored and about to take flight, he'll come back in his most charming, gracious, and loving way to captivate you all over again. This kind of drama can prevent boredom in a most unusual - and exasperating - way. His attitude may appear to be 'out of sight, out of mind', for he deals with matters at hand. His concentration is intense, but he can immediately focus in on another topic. When you come into view again, he tunes in to the 'file' he has on you, and for the moment, at least, you receive his undivided attention. Quick changes are part of his personality and only occasionally is he really scattered, although to others' eyes that's how he can appear. Darting from one topic to another to challenge the restlessness of his intellect is the way his mind works best. He is a collector of trivia and random information. He can be a walking encyclopaedia. He is the one who remembers the lyrics to a song that everyone else has forgotten. The way to keep him intrigued is to be well informed about many subjects, but, above all, be a good listener.

It can be a tricky matter dealing with a tricky Gemini rising. He can outtalk you, outthink you, and probably outsmart you. He can certainly out manoeuver you. He'll only respect you if you can keep up with him, yet he won'd like it if you get ahead of him. You can't let him get away with too much or you're no challenge; but you can't call him on everything or you'll be putting him under too much pressure and he'll simply walk away. He is probably waiting for you to break through his quicksilver façade and discover the depth that is waiting there, like buried treasure. If you take him at face value, you'll miss much of his true worth. It can be a challenge to keep up with all that energy, that spirited front, that duality, yet life will be a rich experience if your patience holds out. A sense of humor can help a great deal. Expect the best of him, overlook his transgressions, and you'll find a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

In the language of Transactional Analysis, Mercury relates to the adult ego state. The adult part of ourselves is the part that can collect facts, clearly say what we mean, disseminate information, and communicate. The individual with Mercury ruling the ascendant expresses his adult ego most easily. It can be extremely important to relate to a child with this rising sign on an intellectual level. If he is given permission early in life to express himself and is encouraged to utilize his restless, inquisitive mentality in experimentation on a high level, he will learn how to channel his thoughts in the right direction. It is essential to deal with this child on a totally honest level and to explain things to him. He is aware early on that he is an adult at a very young age. His salvation comes with self-expression. If he can clearly state his needs, ask for what he wants, state opinions without fear of reprisal, he has a better chance of living up to his extraordinary potential. School will only be a problem for him if he finds it boring or slow. He is liable to skim the surface, however, leaving the drudgery and research to others. He want to be on to more exciting territory. If he is not allowed to express his true curiosity or if life is fearful or tedious, he self-protection is to retreat into his fantasy life. He cannot take too much punishment or heavy judgement, for not only is he mercurial, but he is deeply sensitive.

Consider holding a ball of mercury in the palm of your hand. If you hold it gently, it nestles in one spot, but if you push your finger down, it simply slides away. This is what happens to a child with this ascendant when too much pressure is brought to bear. He slides into his rich imagination and retreats inside himself. Experimentation begins early on with one who has Gemini rising. Thid child needs to be surrounded by lofty but totally realistic values early in his life. He is more than desirous of pleasing his family and associates, but may show only what he thinks is acceptable. If his perceptions don't coincide with the family values, then he goes into hiding. He is a no-nonsense child and is very perceptive at an early age. He rarely becomes judgemental; he believes in 'live and let live'. You can appeal to him through logic and ideas, yet he arrives at his own truth through the process of epistemology. He wants to look at both sides of an issue and then make up his own mind.

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posted December 12, 2004 05:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Lala

I'm kinda in a rush... so I just sorta skimmed most of it. I'll read it more carefully later when the kiddos are in bed.

You're so sweet to take the time to do this for so many people!

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posted January 18, 2005 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How are you sweetie?
we're working on Mercury right now
you have mercury/uranus conjunction
thats a genius aspect

Robert Pelletier)

With Mercury conjunct Uranus, you are bright, articulate, curious, intuitive, and mentally courageous. You are excited by everything you observe, and fascinated by anything different or unusual. Your mind races eagerly as you seek answers to your questions, because you cannot tolerate the darkness of ignorance.

As a child, you were interested in what made your moving toys operate, and your parents probably never had to worry about keeping you occupied. Your creativity developed early, and you even devised new subjects to explore that further captured your interest in all things.

Truth is an important factor in your life. Consequently, science, philosophy, psychology, and human behavior are fields in which you could succeed, since they deal with seeking answers to problems. In industrial research and development, your inventive ability could be applied with a reasonable guarantee of success. Technical writing might also serve as an avenue of expression for you.

To hold your continued interests, the partner you select must have a similar temperament, or you will be bored. You tend to form platonic relationships with your associates, based on mutual interests. You will quickly sever a relationship with someone who violates the truth in dealing with you.

Futuristic in attitude, you rarely look back at what might have been. You prefer to look forward to what will be, if you have any say in it. The possibilities for your self-expression are limitless, except for the lack of continuity that this combination often creates. If you can learn to isolate yourself and resolve one problem at a time, you will overcome the only liability of this conjunction.

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posted January 27, 2005 12:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice!

Thanks, Lala

Everything is pretty right on. Especially...

you cannot tolerate the darkness of ignorance.

Truth is an important factor in your life.

the partner you select must have a similar temperament, or you will be bored.

you rarely look back at what might have been.

learn to isolate yourself and resolve one problem at a time.

So, well... basically everything

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posted February 22, 2005 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Libra Sparkle,

We're on Venus but I thought I'd skip it temporarily and instead focus on your Moon/Saturn conjunction. This is important for 2 reasons one being the transiting conjunction from Saturn to your Natal Moon and you're just about ready for your Saturn return.

Basically whats going to happen with the S/return is when it sits on the degree of your natal Saturn it will activate all of the Saturn aspects in your chart (8) the most prominate being the conjunction with your Moon, this will set the mood for your return.

Moon in Cancer (Skye Alexander)

You are highly emotional and very sensitive. From day to day, your emotional state fluctuates noticeably, and you might discover that the Moon's changing phases affect you significantly. Unless many of your planets are in air and / or earth signs, you may 'wear your heart on your sleeve'.

Inclined to let your heart rule your head, you can have trouble making rational, detached decisions. Actually, your intuition is quite keen and you'd be wise to trust it. You have the ability to tune in to what other people are feeling, and are quite psychic.

Security is of primary importance to you, but often you feel your life has no inherent stability. Thus, you may attempt to find security in external things: family, country, money, your home, traditions. Your family provides a sense of belonging, as does your country on a larger scale. Your home offers protection from the dangers of the outside world. Because you fear being dependent, you can be overly concerned with having money, and believe wealth will bring you the security you desire. Or, you may look to your partner to take care of you.

At the centre of your universe is your family; and your children are your pride and joy. Naturally maternal and nurturing, you adore all children, not only your own, and are a strong supporter of the traditional, nuclear family.

The emotional attachments you form are strong and binding. You cling tightly to other people and it is almost impossible for you to separate your own needs from theirs. This is especially true in the case of your partner and / or children. This Moon position symbolizes the archetypal mother, but your tendency is to be a 'smother' to those you love. You are willing to devote yourself entirely to your loved ones, but your love is not unconditional. You never want your children to grow up. With partners, you can be every bit as possessive and jealous as someone who has Moon in Scorpio. Even friends and employees are seen as part of your extended family, and you expect their complete loyalty and dedication.

Because you feel vulnerable and defenceless, you sometimes imagine threats to your security that are not real. A difference of opinion or lifestyle can seem downright dangerous to you. For this reason, you find it hard to tolerate individuality and diversity - in your family, workplace, city or country - and tend to view others as being either with you or against you.

Both the Moon and Cancer are associated with the mother, and your mother is very important to you. Regardless of your age, it is unlikely that you've severed the umbilical cord. Your tie to her can be either positive or negative; even if you were orphaned at an early age, the loss of your mother is a significant, underlying dynamis in your life. If you live near your mother, you probably see her frequently; if career or other demands take you far from home, you undoubtedly miss her greatly.

Your own role as a parent is very important to you, and you are protective, nurturing and devoted to your children. However, you may have trouble seeing your children as individuals, and need to guard against thinking of them as extensions of yourself. You also worry too much about your children and can be overly protective of them.

Providing nourishment to others is one of your fortés; you are probably a good cook, or at least enjoy cooking. The 'Jewish Mother' cliché certainly describes you, and you demonstrate your love for family and friends by feeding them. You enjoy having family and friends over for dinner, and no-one goes away from your home hungry. You also like to eat and appreciate fine food. However, you must guard against a tendency to use food as a substitute for emotional nourishment, and try not to overeat when what you really want is love and attention.

Going out on the town doesn't appeal to you much; you'd rather stay home with your family or partner, and prefer that others comes to visit you. You especially like to celebrate holidays in your home. Your home is important to you, and you want to own the nicest one possible. Your home serves many functions for you: security, status, stability; a place where those you love can gather. Because permanence and family traditions are important to you, you'd probably like to continue living in or near your childhood home even as an adult, if possible.

Since Cancer and the Moon embody one of the female energies, women usually respond to it more easily and express it in a more obvious manner than men do. Women with this placement enjoy being mothers and homemakers, and are comfortable in traditional female roles (unless they also have Aquarius or Aries prominently figuring in their charts). They show their emotions openly and are able to empathize with others' feelings.

Men with this Moon position may project this energy onto the women in their lives, and might seek mates who provide them with the maternal nurturing and emotional support they desire. You may attempt to find a substitute mother in your partner. Like the woman with this placement, you are a devoted and protective parent, but are less likely to reveal your feelings. Frequently, the man with Moon in Cancer attempts to satisfy his needs for security by working with a large, established company where he can feel he is part of a bigger family.


Moon in the 3rd House
(Howard Sasportas)


While the Sun in the 3rd bursts in on the scene and wants to create an impression on the immediate environment, the Moon in this house reflects and is shaped by the surroundings. As there is the ability to 'feel' what others are thinking, those with this placement may have some difficulty in distinguishing between their own thoughts and the ruminations of others around them. At times, they may believe that they are being objective and rational when in actual fact they are reacting on the basis of some emotional complex. Situations will be coloured according to their moods and sensitivities. If they are in a positive frame of mind, then they will interpret everything positively. If they feel touchy and vulnerable, the same environment will be interpreted quite differently.

The mind is imaginative; and there is usually a retentive memory. The Sun in the 3rd house believes that knowledge is power; the Moon in the 3rd craves knowledge for the security it brings to truly know how something works. Since the Moon is associated with influences from the past, there may be a fascination for such subjects of study as arhaeology, genealogy and history. This placement gives a certain adaptability to changing environments, but the mind may wander or fluctuate from one interest to another. The relationship to siblings - especially female relatives such as sisters, aunts or girl cousins - is worth examining for clues to the psychological make-up of those with this placement. Comfort and security is sought through a sibling or a relative, or they may have had to be 'mother' to others around them during the growing-up years. The actual mother may be related to more like an older sister than a parent.

The Gauquelins found that this placement confers some degree of writing talent. Unless the Moon were in an Air sign, the writing would be likely to display heartfelt emotion or describe personal memories and experiences. Public speakers with the Moon in the 3rd should be able to sway the feelings of the audience. Teachers with this placement can relate to the deeper feelings and needs of their students.

Moon conjunct Saturn
(Robert Pelletier)

The conjunction between the Moon and Saturn shows that you are emotionally defensive, cautious, reserved, and extremely apprehensive about your experiences. Perhaps during your childhood your parents or guardians disciplined you so much that you assumed they did not love you. Because of your extreme sensitivity, you tend to overemphasize negative effects anyway. Almost certainly you did have traumatic experiences with your parents during the early conditioning years, and there is still a residual negative effect, probably caused by the parent who had the most authority in the home. Your early conditioning did not prepare you to deal successfully with the circumstances of everyday living, and you have learned to expect the worst.

Perhaps the guilt projected onto you during the formative years is the cause of the difficulty you sometimes have in forming close, emotional ties in your adult years. It often happens that you are unsuccessful in developing a partnership. Even so, you must deliberately stop thinking htat hpapiness will always elude you. You must recognise your self-worth in order to project yourself optimistically toward others.

You are very likely to succeed professionally because you focus your efforts in worldly areas where your feelings don't have to function. Because you protect yourself by insulating your emotions, you could achieve success in business. In your professional dealings you are basically honest (sometimes painfully so), and you demand the same honesty from others. Management is your particular strong point, and you should rise to prominence in that area. Women will find you stern but will respect you for your fairness. You demand competence from those under you, and you demonstrate it by your own efficiency. If you have a position of authority you will not hesitate to fire someone who doesn't measure up to your expectations; you regard each person under you as an extension of yourself.

You could work well as an employee of professional people such as judges, lawyers, doctors, industrialists, educators, or politicians. You would gain the trust that is necessary in order to function effectively, and you would also serve their interests capably. It is also possible that you could undertake such a profession yourself. Your emotional detachment would allow you to provide unbiased opinions, which would serve the interests of your clients.

Emotional fulfillment will come about through contact with mature and serious individuals. A permanent relationship is possible only if your partner regards you as a mate in all areas - socially, spiritually, and professionally. It is essential for you to share your life with another, but that sharing must be total. Most important, you must always respect each other.

In the area of hearlth, you may have problems involving your back, which may restrict you on occasion. The reproductive system could also cause you difficulty at some time in your life. Above all, try to look at the brighter side of life. Certain negative experiences may seem dismal at the time, but the lessons learned from them should enable you to become more optimistic as you grow.


P.S. According to our chart Linda had the same conjunction, same house, different sign


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"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark

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Way

Thanks so much, Lala.

And, Happy Birthday tomorrow!

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posted May 07, 2005 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's lalala, not lalalinda who has a birthday tomorrow.

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"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll

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