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posted July 07, 2011 09:24 PM            

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If you're new to astrology, take a stab at interpreting your Asc ruler by sign and placement, just a few words. And I will write a paragraph or so on my interpretation just to get you started on thinking of its importance.

For example, if you had Cancer rising, and Moon in Aquarius in the 9th, write a bit on that if you can and I will chime in to help out.

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posted July 16, 2011 01:00 PM            

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Superlative idea!

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posted July 23, 2011 08:05 AM            

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I want to do this but my Virgo ASC won't let me until I've perfected my response.

Seriously, I think this is an fabulous idea... I'm just too conscious of my lack of knowledge at the moment!

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posted July 24, 2011 11:14 AM            

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Another Virgo ASC here.

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posted July 24, 2011 07:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Another Virgo ASC here.

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Yay, Randall!

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posted July 25, 2011 01:55 PM            

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OK, So we've already established that Virgo is my ASC. So my chart ruler is then Mercury, sitting in my 7th house (Aries).

So I think this means that I:

1) focus considerable energy and initiative into perfecting and refining partnerships, marriage - always something that I'm working on or thinking about
2) am the communicator within partnerships (or does it make me require a real communicator?)

Anyway, I'm trying to be brave and take a shot at this - please be gentle with me!

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posted July 25, 2011 07:35 PM            

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Hi, avocadosandwich

"1) focus considerable energy and initiative into perfecting and refining partnerships, marriage - always something that I'm working on or thinking about"
---I have Mercury in the 7th as well, and I spend an inordinate amount of time thinking about others
"2) am the communicator within partnerships (or does it make me require a real communicator?)"
---You have Mercury influencing your Asc and Dsc (by way of h7) so yes I think this calls in the likely possibility of you being a 'real communicator'

OK so we have your Asc in Virgo which is technically always in an itch to perfect, could be themselves, could be something they are tied to; who cares if what the world sees is a mess, the Virgo needs to be sure to have things in order *on their terms* and as they see to be correct. With your Asc ruler in the 7th the focus is now on the other, the partner. This could go a few ways. This could turn you into a real critic in relationships when feeling insecure and not up to par. Early on you may have actually been v.sensitive to others criticizing you and wondering if you could do anything right. But these people taught you how to be clear in your statements, even if the details needed a thorough run through, so what; what you put out there needs to be concise. No crazy out of the blue statements. You appreciate people who can formulate concise arguments (as long as they remain respectful to you) and you actually enjoy a good debate to sharpen your skills. Your chart is unique because you have Mercury influencing both your Asc and your Dsc (by way of being in the 7th), so no matter how you cut it you're coming across as someone quite facile and learned and in search of a partner who acts as a sounding board. Similarly, you may also regularly find yourself offering to serve as a sounding board for many who need a 2nd opinion, and with your well thought out arguments you are willing to be that person even if no one agrees with your opinion (if that Mercury is in Aries). If you are in the workforce then I'd imagine someone with this set up to be the go-to person if another is unsure of the details of any project, and also if someone needs advice on how to deal with a certain type of person; even though you may not know the person they speak of personally, with all your learned knowledge of how and why people do what they do, you become able to offer practical advice for getting on with others.
With Asc ruler Mercury in the 7th in Aries, you may also be quite curious as to others opinions of you, and you would like them to of course reflect favorably for ego's sake. In Aries, Mercury is keen to work out problems with others (h7) but may instigate arguments when bored (Aries) so there is also a need for a good amount of stimulation here to ward off mental boredom. On the negative, you can be quite critical and caustic and shoot yourself in the foot by acting first and thinking second and this could reverse any time you've put into relationships so that you start to lose those you love. You may hear a refrain from others to take the bigger picture into account more often. This combination can also point to a nervous disposition, especially when bored and things are not working out well and anxiety could result from negative interactions with others. I think above all you need to be stimulated not only mentally but you need to have adventures with others, beginning new projects with others in order to feel as if you are having an impact on the environment.

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posted July 25, 2011 08:43 PM            

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Lonake:
OK so we have your Asc in Virgo which is technically always in an itch to perfect, could be themselves, could be something they are tied to; who cares if what the world sees is a mess, the Virgo needs to be sure to have things in order *on their terms* and as they see to be correct.

Totally true - what I offer to the world = me as far as I'm concerned. I couldn't just dash of a quick thoughtless essay... it would have to be clever, insightful, unique, and as close to grammatically perfect as posssible! I hear, "Oh, nobody will ever notice that!" a lot, but then always I find myself saying in response, "But *I* do!" I take forever to write an email because I want to be 1) clear 2) entertaining and 3) error-free.

With your Asc ruler in the 7th the focus is now on the other, the partner. This could go a few ways. This could turn you into a real critic in relationships when feeling insecure and not up to par.

I think I do the criticism in two ways: 1) I idolise my partner and subconsciously attempt to emulate him while "hiding" myself, and this leads to profound self-abasement, and then 2) when he starts to agree with my low assessment of myself as measured against him, I start to realise that he isn't perfect after all, and start to criticise and rebel. This is my working theory, anyway.

Early on you may have actually been v.sensitive to others criticizing you and wondering if you could do anything right. But these people taught you how to be clear in your statements, even if the details needed a thorough run through, so what; what you put out there needs to be concise. No crazy out of the blue statements.

Absolutely. And with a certain person (a parent), I have recently discovered that I never *will* do anything right. This is the same person who hammered at me for my communication skills, and I was terrified of being thought stupid, sloppy or unskilled.

You appreciate people who can formulate concise arguments (as long as they remain respectful to you) and you actually enjoy a good debate to sharpen your skills. Your chart is unique because you have Mercury influencing both your Asc and your Dsc (by way of being in the 7th), so no matter how you cut it you're coming across as someone quite facile and learned and in search of a partner who acts as a sounding board. Similarly, you may also regularly find yourself offering to serve as a sounding board for many who need a 2nd opinion, and with your well thought out arguments you are willing to be that person even if no one agrees with your opinion (if that Mercury is in Aries). If you are in the workforce then I'd imagine someone with this set up to be the go-to person if another is unsure of the details of any project, and also if someone needs advice on how to deal with a certain type of person; even though you may not know the person they speak of personally, with all your learned knowledge of how and why people do what they do, you become able to offer practical advice for getting on with others.

All very true - I love a good debate, as long as people are respectful and logical. And I do get a lot of requests for advice regarding interactions with people. I'm often brought in to assess ideas and provide alternatives (I've been told that I can see all sides of things, probably because I spend too much time agonising over the minutest of details).

With Asc ruler Mercury in the 7th in Aries, you may also be quite curious as to others opinions of you, and you would like them to of course reflect favorably for ego's sake.

I've spent waaaaay too much time finding out what other people think of me. I've spent far too much time caring about it, and trying to change it when it was unfavourable. I've always known it, but never felt strong enough to stop doing it... my efforts have being redoubled recently.

In Aries, Mercury is keen to work out problems with others (h7) but may instigate arguments when bored (Aries) so there is also a need for a good amount of stimulation here to ward off mental boredom. On the negative, you can be quite critical and caustic and shoot yourself in the foot by acting first and thinking second and this could reverse any time you've put into relationships so that you start to lose those you love. You may hear a refrain from others to take the bigger picture into account more often. This combination can also point to a nervous disposition, especially when bored and things are not working out well and anxiety could result from negative interactions with others. I think above all you need to be stimulated not only mentally but you need to have adventures with others, beginning new projects with others in order to feel as if you are having an impact on the environment.

I think it's probably quite true, though it's hard to own that - "I pick fights when bored." I will watch myself over the next little while! My home life can be quite frustrating, as my husband (when he does talk about serious stuff) does not "fight fair" which means no intellectual stimulation and no progress in whatever the problem is. I can certainly get so caught up in details that I lose sight of the "big picture"... it is almost as though I fall back on a defense mechanism that forces me to line up the problems and work through each obsessively and sequentially. I almost feel like I cannot change the order or skip any steps, or do anything in half-measures.

Thank you so much for your detailed response, Lonake! You've given me a lot to think about (and monitor myself for, though I will try not to be too self-critical, ).

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posted July 25, 2011 09:18 PM            

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posted August 24, 2011 11:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
If you're new to astrology, take a stab at interpreting your Asc ruler by sign and placement, just a few words. And I will write a paragraph or so on my interpretation just to get you started on thinking of its importance.

For example, if you had Cancer rising, and Moon in Aquarius in the 9th, write a bit on that if you can and I will chime in to help out.

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Hi Lonake.Good job.

My ASC is Leo ,Sun in Aries in 9th house.I would love an interpretation from you.

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Oooh, I think this is above me, but I'm gonna give it a bash!

OK, I have Libra ASC, and Venus in Capricorn in the 3rd.

I think this means that I strive for harmony and artistic expression in how I operate in the world.
And that I can be rather conservative in my communications regarding love and emotion.

Funnily enough, just reading that, I express myself more emotionally through music than through verbal exchanges. Even my sexuality can be channelled through song (with some interesting results!) if I am not involved in a relationship.

How'd I do?

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Okay, here we go...
Scorpio rising, Pluto is in the 11th house (in Virgo). 11H is about friendship and shared experience. Pluto's energy is about transformation, power and dark secrets. Scorpio is a water sign and very intense

My Interpretation:
people are either drawn to me or intimated by me - they see but do not understand the beauty of keeping somethings to yourself

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posted September 10, 2011 10:19 AM            

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I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order, as they should be.

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posted September 10, 2011 11:43 AM            

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trying out pluto in 12th...

maybe it's so deeply burried that i can't feel it lol. but i do like the escape artist idea. it's possible that it's there rather than the first.

Ruler of the 1st house in the 12th house
The activities of the 1st house serve the agenda of the 12th house. You create a persona based on your dreams, fears and secrets. Your outer behavior derives from your experiences of merging with something greater than yourself. Your personality requires solitude to express itself. Your personality expresses itself best when you merge with the greater whole. Your personality expresses itself best when you dream, sleep, meditate, involve yourself in charity and spend time alone. Your approach is to behave as if you are an escape artist. Your approach is to behave as if you are locked in your own private cell. Your approach is to behave as if you carry a secret. Your attitude can make dealing with secrets and escapist tendencies easier or harder. Self-awareness helps you come to terms with fears and family secrets. Self-awareness helps you embrace solitude. Life is oriented toward helping those in need. Your self-expression is focused on helping people acknowledge fears in order to bring them to light. You dress to hide yourself or your fears. Creating a persona helps you navigate secluded places. You express your personality best when you are alone.

Read more: http://astrofix.net/2010/04/18/ruler-of-the-1st-house-in-houses/#ixzz1XZ4V5i7D

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posted September 12, 2011 02:45 PM            

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Interesting.

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posted November 05, 2011 03:53 PM            

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Asc and Sun in Leo. M I'm delighted to be here, hkere meaning on Earth.

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posted November 18, 2011 02:55 PM            

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ok so My rising sign is Capricorn and saturn is in the 8th house in libra;

I think that means that I really handle change badly. Would it mean that it takes me ages to adjust too change and I try to resist it? Or something to do with re-inventing myself and reviewing myself periodically? :/ Not sure where Libra comes in to this or Capricorn.... I'm just going by Saturn in the 8th.

Please help

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posted November 19, 2011 10:30 AM            

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Change is inevitable, but yeah, I'm the same way.

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posted November 21, 2011 08:46 AM            

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im a cap rising too, with saturn in capricorn

do i come off as stiff to some people, coz sometims i feel i do?

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posted November 22, 2011 09:20 AM            

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All Cappies can.

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My ASC is Leo ,Sun in Aries in 9th house

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Hi freakyfever

This is a great sign combination to have, both are in the same element.
Asc wants to put across a dramatic persona, wants to inject pure breath of life into their circumstances, and Sun in Aries is in an exalted position and in a great house, the 9th.
You have a positive outlook, and, more or less, the balls to put force behind the persona that you put across. The Leo Asc is not just a 'show' that you put on, it is a great vehicle for who you are, a fighter and someone who believes completely in their faith, who is passionate about their beliefs, and who would LOVE to be able to share it with others (via the direct connection to the Asc).
There is a danger of coming across as overbearing to more sensitive people, not to say that you are insensitive, but your strength of purpose and self-belief/confidence (just shown by this combination) is something that MANY do not possess, and it can rub others the wrong way. You ARE a sensitive person (a myth of Aries is that they are rotten aggressive individuals, not true), but your passion can drive away meeker souls. Do not cater to them, with the Leo rising you are asked to stand your ground and be a noble, generous individual. Pay attention to those who are passionate such as yourself, who make you feel like it is OK to be energetic vs. those who would love to push you deep into a cave because you radiate life and they cannot find any joy in their own.
You are also being asked to vibrate to a higher level of Aries Sun, simply because the dignified Leo Asc expects it. The Leo Asc is a marker for self-consciousness, others notice you, and hold you to a certain standard like it or not. To be able to retain an audience you need to showcase the best that you can be, and for an Aries that means being a great idea generator, in the 9th you are full of them, very expansive individual. Don't let those sit, they need to get out there, others need to be aware of what theories you have, what ingenious connections you are making, you could be a great mentor for anyone once the Aries 9th Sun is fully owned. The danger I see with your combination is a bombastic sort of person, who shouts their passionate beliefs down others throats in an arrogant childish manner. You can go there if you want, but if you do you lose the respect of others, and more importantly, you lose self-respect.
Do not hole yourself away from others, you need to be making connections, travelling, learning, educating, broadening both your perspective and that of others.
When first reacting to a situation it is often filtered through the Asc, Leo can really overreact, it bounces from there to the Aries Sun in the 9th, which can be personally set-off but then almost immediately recognizes 'Wait, this is not all there is, I have my faith, I have my rational mind, and I can step outside of this and look at the connections it makes to other circumstances.' So in the end, with this combo you may fight with yourself a bit regarding the acceptability of getting too upset. Just know that you are a passionate person and with that comes a heightened energetic response to situations, you are just human, but you have a lot of insight to offer.

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I have Libra ASC, and Venus in Capricorn in the 3rd.

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At first glance the Asc and Asc ruler are not compatible, they are square by sign, but Libra and Capricorn do have qualities in common, so all is not lost (!)
Libra Asc typically wants a balanced peaceful existence. They might fight to attain that peace, but they want it desperately. It takes a lot of work, and actually Capricorn is v.eager to pitch in and do something constructive, so you can see here where you would have things coming together!
Asc is in Air so there's emphasis on connecting with others, Libra communicates, but it doesn't talk just to chat, like Gemini might. The funny part is that Venus in the 3rd is a sign of someone who loves to hear themselves talk. So however you cut it, there is emphasis on the mind, and on how those you relate to can be attracted by your mind, charm you, or be charmed by you. So there is Venus and words all around your immediate world.
Venus in Capricorn puts emphasis on structure, typically reserved, and huge amount of emphasis on form, it loves art, but it wants it to fit a very solid mold. Even tho you want to charm, you want to make sure that your words are at the end of the day taken seriously. You have a marker here for basically being a sincere, genuine person. Mental compatibility with others matters immensely, and the mental world, the world of writing, or of song, is how you both express yourself, and your love, and also how you would want another to express themselves to you. If someone wrote a song for you I imagine you would be quite impressed. Your Capricorn might criticize the structure of it, but if it passed that test you would feel that the song was a perfect way for you two to meet in the middle. The Libra Asc ideal is to bridge the gap in connection to another, ruler in the 3rd, an Air house, is absolutely great for this, they can both easily relate. As a side note, I would make sure that your Mercury is receiving good aspects, at least a few, in the synastry, because there is such an emphasis on Air in just this part of your chart, but it not only talks about you, it talks about your partners as well since it is Venus.
The danger I see with your combination, because it is Earth/Air, is that you could be a bit cut off from the deeper passionate elements at work in relationships, and place so much emphasis on the words exchanged, the romanticism of it all, that you lose the true emotional content. Air/Earth is the most rational combination, so with this you have a tendency to make great well-thought out, practical choices for your life, but do you feel a loss for leaving people or potential deep experiences with others behind? If you have Fire/Water emphasis elsewhere, then great, you can draw on those elements. For this I am only speaking to your Asc/Chart ruler combo.
Asc ruler Venus in the 3rd is definitely emphasis for arts so you have that, and like I said Capricorn is so deeply ashamed of putting out crap that it will do well to be an internal barometer of the quality of your work. Libra and Capricorn can work well together, but they each have to know when to let the other hold court. Both Cardinal so they both want to run the show. Libra can lure em in and charm, Capricorn can show them that you do have something of merit to offer, that there is strength of purpose behind the pleasant persona, a serious, hardworking person.

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11th is a v.interesting house for Pluto, I will say that up front. It is the house of a fan base and the effect that you have on groups, yours may be mesmerizing.
Scorpio rising, you know the drill, they are all about passion and living life to the hilt. Actually they are quite renegade because on a certain level, it is, 'whatever works.' They can be as rebellious as Aquarians (maybe even more), because they live by their own code. And you know the funny thing about it is, they often seduce others into believing that their code is the only one that matters. It's not manipulation, tho, it is the fact that the Scorpio's code is so true to 'how life really is,' it is a code that goes beyond man made laws, into laws made by the heart. Hence their passion. Hence the ease in drawing others to them who are genuine and as passionate as themselves.
This makes a nice connection to the 11th house. I emphasized the Scorpio Asc effect on others, because your ruler is in a house that is focused on other people, not something related directly to yourself. You could easily draw fascination from others. The 11th is a house of groups, and it actually is a fortunate house. So in one way you could have a very transforming effect on how groups operate. You could display power over them, you could be thrown out of a group through a power struggle between another member, or you could do the same to another.
The struggle here is how does one carry their intensity to bear around others, by not pushing them away? You are fascinated by groups with power, associations, maybe secret societies, but at the same time you fear them, you fear someone trying to get into your mind to implant an idea that was not yours to begin with. There is an emphasis on power, and an emphasis on it being wielded across huge segments of society, so the question always is, where do you stand in the middle of all of this? Are you bringing your msg to groups, are you striking out on your own, or are you collaborating with others who hold a powerful sway, like yourself, and using your combined influence to portray succinct (Virgo) powerful (Pluto) messages to the masses? Pluto holds so much force, that there is much potential for variation here. The truth is that the house that holds Pluto is traditionally the house where we are fated to experience huge reversals of fortune, but always we want it under control, and we want to make a change.
Pluto in Virgo is a placement rallied around a group that seeks changes for how people are treated as basic workers, as basic servants, do they take all the crap they are dealt in their menial jobs or do they stand up for better treatment? It is also concerned with the environment, causes to save rainforests, to help refugees, to take down oppressive regimes. You know that the book Silent Spring by Rachel Carson came out then, and it was a huge focus for the environmental movement, so your generation is very much concerned with the depletion of the earth's resources, as a whole, and how the common man (or woman) is treated regarding basic individual rights. I don't know where you stand on these topics, and there is a lot of variation here, so I cannot say where you are at on this continuum. I can say that Pluto in Virgo has a obsessive attention to detail, and in the 11th it is likely applied to being v.circumspect of anyone you would choose to associate or collaborate with. There is a part of your mind that cannot let the bottom fall out from the tiniest crack, for that to happen would feel like complete and total loss, so within these friendships/collaborations you hold others to a higher standard. You can also be secretive about the projects that you are working on, and would like others involved in yours to be tight lipped as well. This goes along with the 'one small crack' theory that might allow the bottom falling out.
All these ideas are intricately tied to who you are, what you want, and what you place strong emphasis on. It might have seemed I did not talk much about you, but what you have is an outer planet in a transpersonal house, so the energy is about how you can be the driving force and how you can seduce others into hearing the message of your generation; no matter how small the offer you make is, if it gets through, it is worth it.

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So Libra AC, Venus in Scorpio 2nd house.

Lets see..

With Libra rising I'm a peaceful person that tries to balance things. Sometimes even things that are very trivial. I love convivial atmospheres, where everyone gets along. Drama tends to makes me a bit nauseated.

Venus in Scorpio, 2nd house.. I can be very intense at times.. and it clashes with my other lighter placements. I find beauty in things that are dark, yet simple, and lasting. I can get very stubborn when I feel something is wrong and people try to tell me it's right. I'm actually a lot more stubborn than people realize with my people pleasing AC.

Lonake, do me please.

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Capricorn Rising Saturn in Aquarius First house Trine venus, opposition to chiron (in leo in the 7th), and Square MC (Scorpio)

Hmm not particularly sure how this plays out. Hmm perhaps a focus on the self and wanting to be inventive or eccentric, I haven't the slightest clue. Anyone wanna give an interpretation?

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