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starmoon
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posted August 13, 2012 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi. A beginner's question, I think. If you know the birth place and complete birth date for someone but not their birth time, what planets will you absolutely not be able to figure out in their chart? and, which planets will remain the same regardless of birth time, so long as the date/place is known? thanks!

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Junethird
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posted August 13, 2012 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Junethird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Without accurate birthtime you won't get accurate Asc/moon and house placements.

With accurate birthdate and place.
You can get
Sun
Moon tentative
Venus
Mars
Jupiter
Saturn
Uranus
Pluto
Neptune
Psyche
Eros ... Those are the ones I can remember df the top of my head.

For kicks I Checked my chart with unknown time and most planets stayed in the same sign as with my birth time. When I types in "noon" for a generic time I got Leo Asc and my house placements changed dramatically lol.

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posted August 13, 2012 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, you can't get any house placements without birth time.

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posted August 14, 2012 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for slowpoke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Use 12 noon time, when the time is not known. This will help compensate for the fast moving Moon, the hardest planet to gauge without the time factor.

The Moon moves about six degrees during the span of a day. Using 12 noon cuts that span in half and will give you a fare idea of the Moon aspects.

If you are looking at Synastry Astrology (Relationships), then focus on the aspects rather than on house positions when the time is not known. The aspects will tell you the quality of chart without reading anything else within the chart.


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posted August 15, 2012 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by starmoon:
Hi. A beginner's question, I think. If you know the birth place and complete birth date for someone but not their birth time, what planets will you absolutely not be able to figure out in their chart? and, which planets will remain the same regardless of birth time, so long as the date/place is known? thanks!

As everyone said, you won't be able to figure houses and house placements. If a planet changed signs during the day, it is tricky, but maybe you can use that for rectification. For instance, let's say on that day Venus went from Cancer to Leo. Cancer Venus and Leo Venus are very different. Try to see which one fits the person more. If Leo Venus fits, the person probably was born later that day. This situation is more likely to happen with the Moon, so it is an important clue.

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