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Topic: Please Read: Psychotic tendencies in small child?
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somethingexcellent
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posted February 19, 2013 05:21 PM
  
Well, she's started holding her infant brother upside down after he's been fed, so he pukes his food back up. Before that, she's killed a kitten and dog before. Overall, she's just really emotionally messy...no discipline, doesn't listen or sit still for very long, often fights with her other siblings who tend to gang up on her...It makes me worried. She's turning 8 this year.  Astro-wise, I see a t-square involving Pluto and Mercury, with Mars at the apex. IP: Logged |
Gemmy
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posted February 19, 2013 08:24 PM
She has gemini sun square a pisces mars,which I also have.It's also square uranus,I have the opposition.I was really angry and antsy as a kid,but I grew out of it.She probably will too.But I never killed animals or hurt my siblings.That might be those Pluto aspects she has. Is she shy around people she doesn't know? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted February 19, 2013 08:32 PM
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Lonake
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posted February 19, 2013 11:23 PM
Merc chart ruler is v.afflicted opp Pluto and tsq Mars. Could be v.verbally agressive. Merc opp Pluto can be an aspect for deep hatred on one hand, for society, cos people aren't acting in the way the person deems appropriate.
Also that Moon/Venus opp tPluto and sq tUranus ~ hope she's not being abused and acting out :/
If she's not being abused then there's a lot of sexual (potentially destructive) energy coming her way, been coming her way with this, and for kids that's really hard to get a handle on sometimes cos they don't have much of an outlet really. Is she in sports? How does she get along with classmates?Here's the progressions, Ami I put Nessus and Deja in there for you,
Notice the progressed Sun, it started kicking up that natal t-square about 2 yrs ago.
The p.Sun opp Pluto can be really violent. Pluto/Sun in progressed can be a really difficult energy to deal with, she's lucky no one tried to hurt her (that you know of?) ~ at least I hope not. You have to watch her w.transit Mars/Merc is late Pisces. You have to watch her anytime Mars and/or Merc is triggering her tsq.
Also watch her when Jupiter goes to opp her Pluto. SE,
Anyway you can post her mom's chart w.time & say anything about the relationship w.the parents? IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted February 19, 2013 11:32 PM
Solar arc Mars is close to being in orb with natal Venus, but not at this time just yet. Uranus just crossed that Mars - Mars/Venus is sexual energy. Uranus/Mars for violence, rebellion, explosion, acting out without regard for consequences.
Sun is past opposing natal Pluto but it's coming up to sq n.Mars by progression, another marker for sexual energy, but could also be violent, needs to watch the men/boys who are around her. Or you need to watch her around them (not you obv, you know what I mean).
Anyway I say sports #1 sexual energy outlet #2 proven to help girls increase their confidence, be more assertive.
Jupiter's gonna be crossing her Mc not too long from now, ruling the Ic, is she moving soon? Jupiter @ Mc can also mean she's trying to do something to get a lot of attn from people. Uranus is also coming to sq her Moon about the same time, another marker for a move. Or maybe a change in the relationship w.mom.
Uranus is moving into her 8th, anything she has buried in there is gonna be kicked up. 8th house is secrets, sometimes things we'd like to hide even from ourselves, things we could be ashamed of. House of taboos. And right when it crosses it's gonna sq the Moon, her Moon's 8'27, her 8th is 8'47. It's a bit worrying. That's late March, and Mars is transiting conj Uranus that day. Mars sq Moon a marker for emotional upset."It makes me worried."
---Same. She needs structure.
When Saturn Rx's it's gonna trine her Moon/Venus 2 more times. Hopefully her mother or who ever's in charge will find the wherewithall to step up to the plate. Chiron's also been trine her Moon/Venus. It's at 8 now. Makes you much more sensitive to your needs, esp in Water. IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent
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posted February 19, 2013 11:43 PM
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Lonake: SE,
Anyway you can post her mom's chart w.time & say anything about the relationship w.the parents?
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Lonake
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posted February 19, 2013 11:47 PM
Also Saturn's going through her 3rd trine her Moon, in Scorp, she needs tools to communicate her feelings. If she doesn't have that it's gonna be harder for her. Saturn's where we need to do the work. Trine implies help is coming her way, hopefully. Then again she is the 3rd house in the sense that she's a child and in elementary years. Saturn going through it is making the experience harder than it has to be. Really wonder how she's dealing w.peers w. this.Mars is conj her Dsc on the 21st, implies a confrontation with someone, chances are it'll be a male. But someone's coming in wanting her to go along with them or confronting her about an issue. It'll also sq her Sun in the few days following since she has Sun sq Dsc. tMars will also conj sa.Uranus which is sq.the natal Sun. Makes me think the encounter is unexpected. OR there's an unexpected flare up in her anger at another. Asc is yourself, Mars is the challenge. Uranus/Mars can be explosive/sudden. Also watch for accidents. IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent
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posted February 19, 2013 11:58 PM
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Gemmy: Is she shy around people she doesn't know?
Maybe for like all of 5 seconds. If someone she's familiar with engages her, she'll forget the new person even exists, ahaha. Lonake
Here's my sister's chart, they do not live in the same city as I:
 As far as I know, she's never hit her daughter. She does get short and yells sometimes, but more often than not, she'll just send her kids outside to play. Her father is especially close though. My niece only cries really when she's fighting one of her siblings and often goes to her dad (don't know his time). Oh, and once her eldest brother wouldn't leave her alone, she jabbed him in the arm with scissors.  I'm not sure how well she gets along with other kids to be honest. I sometimes hear of her elder brother and sister making little friend groups and the like while Liza I don't know. If anything, I think she just attaches herself to other kids for awhile.
Boys at her school do bully her...she's tough, and she does fight back and send them running, but fighting can't be healthy - period. I don't think her mother and father know what to do, or have access to any means. I want to bring this to my mom's attention, but I'm not she'd know what to do either. I'd dread the thought of my sister losing her kids but this is really troubling me. IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted February 20, 2013 12:49 AM
I wonder how she'd lose the kids if you say you don't think the girl is being abused? It could just be she's so young and doesn't have many tools to deal with these intense energies that are hitting her?  Uranus is coming back to sq the Mom's Dsc implying change in relationships, could be a break up but it's just one marker. I like the daughter's Moon.Venus on Mom's Dsc, I don't like mom's Merc in sq to that from Libra since Cancer is really sensitive. Moon/Merc sq is feeling like emotionally you're not being heard, to the daughter.
Mom's pVenus 8 Libra sq daugher's Moon 8 Cancer, Uranus is going to shake up their relationship, their closeness to each other which is too bad since it looks like they were just in a period of being v.close with daughter's pMoon conj mother's pVenus/nMerc no matter what other changes were taking place.
Regarding stability w. tSaturn, it's conj her Mc gonna Rx over it 2 more times. Saturn on an angle implies responsibility, weight to carry, plus it's crossing her SN, I think she's been going through a difficult time here. She needs support too. And her daughter. She doesn't have any natal points in trine that could be stabilized, but it will sextile her Venus/Mars/Asc, trine Dsc. Her pMoon turns to Pisces this yr leaving her more vulnerable, possibly financial concerns since it'll opp Mars/Venus in the 8th, other's money maybe child support or debt concerns. Neptune will also opp that conj and pMoon will move into a conj wNeptune, that can be a really sad time. Possible deception from partner. But from what you write it doesn't sound like they're breaking up. I worry about her in relationships, finding her own identity since she has the Sun Neptune sq. If she's not employed then Saturn going over the Mc through the 10th can help her with that, cos it comes with a huge focus to -work- and get things right.
Her p.Ic is 6 Gem, technically it's within orb of trining nJupiter, could be a marker for a move but that one's not strong. It was just past the conj of t.Jup, Jup moving through the 4th could move or bring in someone new. The p.Ic is making a grand trine with nJup trine Merc, that could open up communication at home.
Her p.Sun's also changing sign this year. That's a marker for a major life change, for the woman since she's married/partnered it could indicate breaking off the relationship. If they're not ending it then the circumstances on which the relationship is built are being re-worked. She's becoming a new person in a lot of ways, esp with transit Pluto on Asc.
Her Chiron is on daughter's Mc/Sun, when Jupiter crosses that point the mom will have to be open to her own need for healing. Chiron in the 5th, painful issues surrounding children, opp Uranus, esp Jup opp Uranus, she wants to break free of that pattern altho it's hard to face. Mom's facing a lot of difficult emotional issues, next yr is the saturn return in scorp squaring her Moon. I think she will find work if she's not working, the NN crossing the Mc along with Saturn in the 10th. If she doesn't change jobs or get more responsbility there then I think her "status" via the relationship has a greater chance of being changed.
What do you think? If their relationship survived Pluto opp Dsc I guess it can withstand Uranus in square. Then again transit Saturn is sq pAsc, she could be having doubts about being with him. Pluto isn't coming back to make an exact conj to the Asc.
Here's their synastry Ami, or whoever else wants to take a look,
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somethingexcellent
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posted February 20, 2013 01:17 AM
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Lonake: I wonder how she'd lose the kids if you say you don't think the girl is being abused?
The parents do drugs. It's not every day but it happens. Augh, I'm just a concerned uncle, wah. Thank you Lonake for your insight, it makes lots of sense, and my niece does have issues with boys. IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted February 20, 2013 02:00 AM
Well you're the sibling and she has Uranus moving through her 3rd in a few. Maybe she'll be more open to hearing what you have to say if she's not right now?IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent
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posted February 20, 2013 02:32 AM
Yeah, and her other kids are doing quite fine! It's just this one that I'm concerned about.  IP: Logged | |
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