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jungle
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posted March 12, 2014 06:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jungle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have mercury in Taurus in the 12th house, (trine Uranus and conjunct Venus) and every thing I read about having this planet in the 12th house sounds not too positive. It sounds like it could cause real problems.

I was wondering does anyone here also have mercury in this 12th house position, and how has it affected your life and the way you communicate? Are there any positive/hopeful traits about this position?

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posted March 12, 2014 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hullo Jungle, nice to have you!

I'll just let Ami answer this one, she's a Twelfth House sort of person...

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posted March 12, 2014 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum33/HTML/000088.html

Here, I found this for you.

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posted March 12, 2014 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/006184.html

And this.

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posted March 12, 2014 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To be perfectly honest, though, Conjunct Venus and Trine Uranus sounds pretty positive.

Especially as the Venus is Doubly Blessed!

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posted March 12, 2014 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome Jungle

If Merc is more than 10 degrees from the ASC, it counts as 12th house imo. If less, it counts as conj the ASC.

The 12th house makes EXPRESSION of the planet hard. Hence, with mercury, you may feel insecure to express yourself. You may be very afraid of rejection for you ideas.

Does that fit?

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posted March 12, 2014 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jungle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum33/HTML/000088.html

Here, I found this for you.



Thank you for the links, Ellynlvx. There is a lot of valuable information in there that will help me understand the challenges of a 12th house placement. My sun is also in the 12th house. At least I understand now why I'm so introverted.

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posted March 12, 2014 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jungle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Welcome Jungle

If Merc is more than 10 degrees from the ASC, it counts as 12th house imo. If less, it counts as conj the ASC.

The 12th house makes EXPRESSION of the planet hard. Hence, with mercury, you may feel insecure to express yourself. You may be very afraid of rejection for you ideas.

Does that fit?



I'm still quite new to astrology, so I don't know yet what the degrees represent. All I can see on my chart next to Gemini is a 0, and then next to Mercury another 0. I'm not sure what the 0 means. I don't feel like I have a problem expressing ideas. But I did read once that mercury in this placement has learning difficulties. Does this mean dyslexia?

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posted March 12, 2014 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You need to remove the s in the http thing to make it work.

I would gladly do your chart and give you a basic Report, if you would like.

Need the information, though.

Oh, you use the edit function on the reply dateline to revise link.

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posted March 12, 2014 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jungle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
You need to remove the s in the http thing to make it work.

I would gladly do your chart and give you a basic Report, if you would like.

Need the information, though.

Oh, you use the edit function on the reply dateline to revise link.


Okay, thank you. I'll try one last time.

http://alabe.com/cgi-bin/chart/pics/2456729650017.gif


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posted March 12, 2014 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, Ellyn can tell me that info when she does your chart, my Friend

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posted March 12, 2014 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Welcome Jungle

If Merc is more than 10 degrees from the ASC, it counts as 12th house imo. If less, it counts as conj the ASC.

The 12th house makes EXPRESSION of the planet hard.


Even more so, because it is in an Intercepted Sign.

Venus is also on the Anti-Vertex in Aries.

Conjunct the Aries Sun.

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posted March 12, 2014 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus con the Sun makes one charming, so I can say that with surety

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posted March 12, 2014 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have sag merc in the 12th, sun and venus too.

Very active imagination n have a soft spot for the arts. No learning difficulties. Tend to keep my thoughts private though, mostly because I like to take a lot of time to mull over ideas.

Here's a link about merc aspects n house influence Hope you'll find it helpful
http://www.rosicrucian.com/mos/moseng04.htm

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posted March 12, 2014 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cutie.

Here is a very basic Interpretation, Jungle.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum34/HTML/001705.html

Ami Anne will go more in depth with it for you, I am certain.

She studies this.

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posted March 12, 2014 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
12muddy, do you study with them?

I've heard good things.

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posted March 12, 2014 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jungle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for comments, Ellynlvx and Ami Anne. This helps me out a lot. I'm going to read the report.

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posted March 12, 2014 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jungle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12muddy:
I have sag merc in the 12th, sun and venus too.

Very active imagination n have a soft spot for the arts. No learning difficulties. Tend to keep my thoughts private though, mostly because I like to take a lot of time to mull over ideas.

Here's a link about merc aspects n house influence Hope you'll find it helpful
http://www.rosicrucian.com/mos/moseng04.htm


That part does describe me. I've always kept my thoughts private. I don't speak much, and if you're a stranger I speak even less. A lot of people (including family members) have said that they don't really know me even though they've been around me for years. I don't have a problem in having conversations, but if it's personal there's only ever so much you'll know about me. I appreciate the link. I'll be reading that.

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posted March 12, 2014 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornOne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry to hijack the thread as my question is somewhat similar. My Mars is in the 12th house (Gemini) squaring Sun/Mercury and Moon. I can feel its effects, such as lots of thinking inside, but poor with expressing them. Is there a way to handle it productively?

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posted March 12, 2014 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ellynlvx: Hehe I'm at grasshopper's level

Jungle: you may find this interesting to read. It's about the 4 types of mental chemistry.

http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/mentalchemistry.html

Hehe I understand. Oh yes, everyday conversations are fine but I don't often speak about my secrets either

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posted March 12, 2014 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
StubbornOne:

Ami is the Twelfth House person, but if you want a Natal, I would be glad to oblige.

Just leave birth information.

And Welcome

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posted March 12, 2014 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 12muddy:
Ellynlvx: Hehe I'm at grasshopper's level

Jungle: you may find this interesting to read
http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/mentalchemistry.html


They've been Highly Recommended.

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posted March 12, 2014 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jungle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12muddy:
Ellynlvx: Hehe I'm at grasshopper's level

Jungle: you may find this interesting to read. It's about the 4 types of mental chemistry.

http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/mentalchemistry.html

Hehe I understand. Oh yes, everyday conversations are fine but I don't often speak about my secrets either


Thank you. I'll need to study the part about the moon speed. That sounds complicated. I'm still learning how to read birth charts. I'll understand it all eventually.

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posted March 12, 2014 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ You're welcome

On astro.com where we get our birth charts, there's an Additional Table (PDF) link above the birth chart. It gives us the extra information, the moon and other planets' speed are in there.

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posted March 12, 2014 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jungle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see it now. Thank you. It says my moon speed is 12 degrees.

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