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Topic: What Saturn feels...
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LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 15829 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted September 09, 2015 07:26 AM
Let's explore what Saturn feels/how it reacts.When you were Saturn in synastric contacts (to luminaries, Venus, Mars, angles, nodes, but any planet in fact, overlays) what did you feel/want, how did it play out for you? How did you feel your Saturn there, what did you feel for the planet? Let's do a personal history of Saturn, I'll come back with mine. Specify the role of Saturn in your chart. The aspects with the other (overlays too).
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tgem Moderator Posts: 4316 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted September 09, 2015 08:54 AM
Well saturn is both my 7th and 8th house ruler...needless to say I love Cappies, but my saturn aspects Cusp's moon, Mercury, jupiter, Saturn, neptune, Lilith, ASC, and MC....plus asteroids so saturn played in hugely for my attraction toward him, rather than being cold or limiting. My Saturn falls into his 9th which is ruled by the moon. His Saturn, which rules his 3rd, conjuncts my Mars, which rules my 11th. Then again, saturn aspects my natal sun, moon, Mercury, Venus, Uranus and Neptune so I'm comfortable with saturn energy. IP: Logged |
Empty Spaces Knowflake Posts: 167 From: Registered: Jun 2015
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posted September 09, 2015 09:15 AM
EDITED First: -My ex boyfriend have his saturn in my 7th house. I guess we both felt that.He meet my parents in our first week together lol 100% of commitment but we had no fun at all.Plus he used to talk about living together but not diretly asking me for it.We did not lasted long. Saturn/mercury opposition.(I was saturn)It was really difficult to talk.Nothing and common. Second relationship: -Saturn/sun square (3) Saturn/mercury square (-1) did not felt this aspect. I wonder if was his mercury in my 11th.We talked way too much.About everything.
Plus his saturn falls in my 7th or 8th, dont know exactly and this time unfortunally we had no commitment. We were just friends but i wanted more -Saturn/venus conjunction. (3) "The unrequited love" as some people say.And it was indeed but i was VENUS.He should love me! Perhaps is not the aspect between those two. -Im a cap sun.His venus falls in my 10th.This kind of overlay works? -I have a saturn/venus conjunction (2) with my mom as well (she is saturn) and she doesnst act like the boss with me hehe I think saturn and venus works diferently,at least when it comes to the conjunction.(Not sure about squares and oppositions)It feels like pure love to me. IP: Logged |
GypseeWind Knowflake Posts: 6319 From: Love Street, she lingers long on Love Street.. Registered: May 2009
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posted September 09, 2015 10:46 AM
In my last relationship I was Saturn in our Sun/Saturn sq. He was 14 yrs younger. I loved him very much, but there was always an underlying sadness bc I knew it couldn't last forever. I felt responsible for him. Like if we were out, I felt like I had to watch over him, and control how he acted. The funny thing about that was, when we first met he was drawn to me because he thought I was fun and a wildchild. In the end I felt like I was regulating his life... telling him how not to waste his money, how to work more efficiently, how to deal with his family issues, etc. It became too much for me. I became the person both my husband's were to me, and I hated it.I left the relationship. He's now with someone 21 yrs older. She's a cap moon/venus. He has cap desc. But we still text and email. We will probably always love each other. IP: Logged |
mattva Newflake Posts: 22 From: Registered: Aug 2015
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posted September 09, 2015 11:41 AM
All my big relationships had a saturn conjunct my exes' saturns.we had similar value systems. the same issues in life. i think we both worked on the same things together because it benefited us both. For me, atleast, I tend to do that naturally. I like to help my partner out in the hopes of feeling needed. I also approach them as a bestfriend/almost sibling-ish more than anything, and by doing so hoping to create structure between the two of us. I also have a Saturn in my second house (Scorpio). I've dated scorpios and been friends with quite a few. There's something about them that admirable. But I cannot for the life of me be romantically attached to them. I have a sun aquarius/libra asc/venus:mars in pisces. Weirdo combo!
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12muddy Knowflake Posts: 2361 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted September 09, 2015 12:11 PM
My saturn is in his 1st house. Square his sun/mercury/pluto/MC. Conjunct his Asc. Trine his venus/mars. In my natal chart, I have 1st house saturn conjunct asc/NN/venus. Square moon/MC. Trine mars. Sextile pluto. Oppose chiron. His saturn is in my 10th house. Oppose my mars, sextile my saturn/NN/asc. Conjunct my pluto. In his natal chart, he has 10th house saturn sextile venus/asc. Quincunx jupiter. Overall I think my saturn provides some grounding and stability, especially since my uranus and neptune also make a truck load of aspects to his planets. It's tough to single out saturn and how it feels because in my chart, it's a part of a stellium. -- Sadness. It's not as though our life together is shrouded in it, but there's been quite a lot of grief and obstacles. There's a feeling of unity, "togetherness". He once commented that he felt like being together "is the most natural thing". Responsibilities come easily to us. Things just sort of happen, click, fall into places. Work like a well-oiled machine. Heh, even with mundane things, like household chores - who do what, nah we've never really had any discussion about those, and there's been no conflict or disagreement. Same goes with finances, purchases...etc... We're fiercely protective of our relationship. Of "us", of what we are and what we've built together. We do tend to be overprotective of each other. The way he expresses it feels almost "fatherly". He's mostly concerned about my well being. Helps me clean up my cr*p. Frowns upon my past drug use. Keeps an eye on my alcohol consumption. Gives advices...etc... Not that I can't do those stuff myself. He knows I can. He just can't help but do all of that. My way is more like "You want to get to him you'll have to walk over my carcass". I've never minded getting my hands dirty. No one hurts him and walks away unscratched. Almost like a hound dog protecting its master. We both know how to temper that tendency and keep it in check, but heh it's an unspoken understanding between us. In those instances, we often look at each other like "Yep, I know what you're thinking, but don't worry, don't stress. It'll be fine". Silent reassurance. When we disagree with each other, we don't sweep things under the carpet. He, in particular, doesn't coddle me or ignore my faults. We treat each other with a great deal of respect. We expect it from each other. "Never ask a person to be less than what he/she is". Never ask the other to bend their values - these are boundaries that we do not cross. Even in our worst moments, even in doubts, confusion, misunderstanding and whatnot. He cares about my careers/what I want to do a great deal. Lots of encouragements, discussions and even some pushes in the right direction. I care about his too, although not as much because he already found what he's passionate about. IP: Logged |
StillTippin Knowflake Posts: 83 From: Houston, Tx Registered: Jun 2015
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posted September 09, 2015 01:15 PM
I had my Saturn sextile my exes Venus. All I wanted was honesty, I was far from controlling and eventually we had that glue there until I found out who she really wasI had my mars trine another woman's Saturn, she was ***** . I either got on her nerves or intimidated her but she was very difficult to deal with. I cant find one positive in that. She probably felt, from what I've seen, annoyed. Most of the time she felt annoyed and you know where this led to...... IP: Logged |
IntuitiveJ Knowflake Posts: 872 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted September 09, 2015 01:49 PM
My saturn is conjunct my BF's south node, his venus and his part of fortune. Saturn is in my 6th house, his ninth.His Saturn is widely conjunct my Sun/moon midpoint (4 orbs). His falls into my 5th house. I absolutely feel it, he felt oddly familiar when we first met and there can be times when the relationship feels heavy with a strong sense of responsibility. I feel overprotective and can get jealous at times. He can be stubborn but when things are smooth they are incredible. We love hard and disagree hard too. The bond feels impossible to break. Its glue, for reals IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 2927 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted September 09, 2015 02:21 PM
His Saturn conjuncts my Venus. I don't know exactly how he feels but he shows a very strong responsibility for me, as if I am a child and he is the parent ( typical for the Saturn person). IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 21842 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted September 09, 2015 02:39 PM
He was joking, right? IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 2927 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted September 09, 2015 02:42 PM
Omg CeriHe is so notttt Lol I get this speech on a daily basis IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 21842 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted September 09, 2015 03:13 PM
HOnestly, that sent shivers down my spine. How do you deal with that on a regular basis? I would feel like I suffocate! EDIT I think I just realized that I could never live with a truely posessive person. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 7759 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 09, 2015 04:10 PM
I tried to date someone who's Saturn was on my Sun...he tried to tell me what to wear, how to eat...he wanted to delegate everything about me. It was so annoying! IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 2927 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted September 09, 2015 04:14 PM
Cer,I don't have problem with it, at least not for now. I just shrug my shoulders or laugh it off. It would be a problem in the long run, thou. IP: Logged |
Sven555 Knowflake Posts: 909 From: UK Registered: Jul 2012
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posted September 09, 2015 04:33 PM
I've had Saturn contacts the in past. They have gone either of 2 ways:The individual is 'too cold' for my liking; they lack spontaneity and seem to think being Saturn all the time is the best way because being mature 100% is what will get you through life. Only in the workplace dearie. OR Saturn has fallen with me and I have to motivate or push them to do anything. I don't mind inspiring or motivating, but there is a line. Because the line was crossed, I didn't want any more to do with them. It was short lived anyway. My experiences haven't been the best so far; but good to see some of you have reasonably good experiences ------------------ Beginners Guide to Astrology IP: Logged |
Someday Soon Newflake Posts: 7 From: Registered: Sep 2015
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posted September 09, 2015 09:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by Orange:
One of his texts -----> "Good Morning, baby! I love you. Have a good day in the office today. Remember - don't lean over to expose your breasts to other people when you talk to them. Don't flirt, don't laugh, don't joke with coworkers. Men can interpret your giggling the wrong way. Again, don't lean over when talking to someone! Enjoy your breakfast and lunch but don't talk to other males during lunch. They will use the opportunity to hit on you"
Even after 20+ years of marriage, this is my husband to a T! Since I'm Saturnarian (not sure I spelled that right) I learned to be okay/deal with it for the longest time, but I recently had transiting Uranus go over my Sun and progressed Asc (at the same time). The need for freedom was so strong for me that I wasn't sure we were going to make it through (neither was he). We did make it, but he complains nearly everyday that I'm not the same person I used to be. Good luck to you, Orange! IP: Logged |
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 809 From: <--------- over there. Registered: Jun 2015
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posted September 09, 2015 10:09 PM
That kind of stuff just feels like a heavy cloud. I.hate it! (The quoted text). I mean a heavy cloud whether the giver or receiver. Ugh. I remember dating one woman. First time she pulled that kind of crap I ended it.I don't know if it played a role but her Saturn opposite my Sun (wide orb) and trine my Uranus/nn. I've been on both ends of Saturn square Venus. Felt the same to me. IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 2927 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted September 09, 2015 10:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by Someday Soon: Even after 20+ years of marriage, this is my husband to a T! Since I'm Saturnarian (not sure I spelled that right) I learned to be okay/deal with it for the longest time, but I recently had transiting Uranus go over my Sun and progressed Asc (at the same time). The need for freedom was so strong for me that I wasn't sure we were going to make it through (neither was he). We did make it, but he complains nearly everyday that I'm not the same person I used to be. Good luck to you, Orange!
What is his Saturn and Pluto doing to your chart? Does he have a strong Saturn or Pluto in his chart? My chart is very mutable, along with an air Gemini Moon and airy Libra Venus. Not sure I'd sustain that in the long run, unless it softens IP: Logged |
LaceyLeigh Knowflake Posts: 321 From: New Jersey Registered: Jul 2014
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posted September 09, 2015 10:36 PM
Are these all hard aspects you guys are talking about?IP: Logged |
Gemini Blues Knowflake Posts: 774 From: The future... or the past. I get them confused... Registered: May 2014
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posted September 09, 2015 10:45 PM
Well... First I need to preface this with my own aspects Saturn isStationed Rx Trine Venus Rx and NN Trine Asc Opposite Uranus Square Mercury and the Vertex axis So, Saturn conjunct my Venus (trine Saturn, NN, trine Asc...) Like a parent? This *was* my father. Saturn conjunct my Sun... Like a parent? This was my mother. Moon opp my Saturn? Saturn opp my Moon? Had the DW with my ex-wife. We had relationships lasting 4, 5, and 7 years. Think tractor beams, gravety wells, super glue. Together, we each made the other the focus of our lives, but not always in healthy ways. Oh, her Chiron conjunct and Venus square my Saturn too, just for fun. We completed each others grand crosses... Saturn trine my Pluto-Jupiter trine for the grand? She really liked me. Except for the things she wanted me to change. Which was just about everything. Ugh! Tons more, too many to remember. Since Venus trines my Asc, its a point of attraction, and Saturn trines both, so... IP: Logged |
Someday Soon Newflake Posts: 7 From: Registered: Sep 2015
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posted September 09, 2015 11:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by Orange: What is his Saturn and Pluto doing to your chart? Does he have a strong Saturn or Pluto in his chart?My chart is very mutable, along with an air Gemini Moon and airy Libra Venus. Not sure I'd sustain that in the long run, unless it softens
Off the top of my head we have my Sun square his Saturn (4 deg), his Venus square my Pluto (2 deg) and his Moon trine my Pluto (1 deg). I have sun square Saturn in my natal chart (1-2 deg) and he has Venus square Pluto (3-4 deg) in his natal chart....BUT, He's a double Sag (Sun, Asc) with an Aqua moon so I would have thought he would be all about freedom. :/
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Orange Knowflake Posts: 2927 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted September 09, 2015 11:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by Someday Soon:
Off the top of my head we have my Sun square his Saturn (4 deg), his Venus square my Pluto (2 deg) and his Moon trine my Pluto (1 deg). I have sun square Saturn in my natal chart (1-2 deg) and he has Venus square Pluto (3-4 deg) in his natal chart....BUT, He's a double Sag (Sun, Asc) with an Aqua moon so I would have thought he would be all about freedom. :
that explains it..your Sun being squared by his Saturn. And he already has the natal controlling tendencies from his Pluto- Venus. we have the Saturn and Pluto action in our synastry, too. My Pluto conj his Moon, his Saturn conjuncts my Venus. however, he is the one with a natal Sun-Saturn opposition, not me. He like orders, rules and regulations, I am with fluctuating boundaries thanks to my Neptune. Will see... IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 535 From: Registered: Mar 2014
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posted September 10, 2015 12:13 AM
There's that thing they say, the Magi crew, about the importance of balanced Saturn action in synastry... I think if each person is acting as Saturn equally, if there's kind of a match up of the Satutn energies (me as Saturn square your Mercury you conjunct my ascendant, me trine your venus you trine my juno--for instance--and maybe both of our Saturns in opposition to something or other) and not one party over Saturn dominant, things do tend to smooth out a bit better, or be more tolerable, in a t!t for tat kind of way... Nice if hard aspects are tempered by trines elsewhere, so we feel the loving supportive side of Saturn, the dharmic rather than the karmic Saturn... the evolutionary, awesome, aha! Saturn... as well as the super freaking annoying one .IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 15829 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted September 10, 2015 06:17 AM
quote: Originally posted by LaceyLeigh: Are these all hard aspects you guys are talking about?
Any kind of aspects when you felt your Saturn. Thank you, guys, great answers! I'd like us to focus more on what you felt about the other person when you were Saturn, and how you acted around them. How you played your Saturn around them. It's interesting to know if you ever rejected through your Saturn, for instance (unrequited scenarios). Or was it always a case of controlling/parenting/protecting. Were you critical of the planet? Controlling? Restrictive? Did it give you the need to be with them no matter what? Or did they make you feel safe? Some say Saturn aspected makes you feel safe, others say it makes you feel insecure. etc etc DG, what did you feel as Saturn in Venus/Saturn? ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... AstroMandala New Profiles IP: Logged |
Keela Knowflake Posts: 778 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted September 10, 2015 07:34 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Let's explore what Saturn feels/how it reacts.When you were Saturn in synastric contacts (to luminaries, Venus, Mars, angles, nodes, but any planet in fact, overlays) what did you feel/want, how did it play out for you? How did you feel your Saturn there, what did you feel for the planet?
With something newer, the first time meeting IRL turned out to go a little different than I thought. There are normally quite a few laughs related to the person at my end otherwise, my seeing it as their having brought a lot of laughter back into my life after more serious years... but when we got face to face, apparently all my thoughts of joking about this and that vanished no idea where. It was only afterwards that I realized that I'd basically gone as serious as a heart attack as soon as in his presence, not sure if I'd really even properly smiled at any stage. He smiled and his face lit up seeing me, which I loved, but I'm not sure if I smiled even at such times, or what I did. So basically I need to get my Saturn to RELAX, good grief. My 12H Cancer Saturn semisextile my 2H Sun T-square Uranus-Chiron/Jupiter opposition trine NN co-ruler of 7-8H in Aquarius In his 4H ~2-3 deg conj his Uranus-Jupiter on his IC square his 12H Venus (exact, also trine my Sun) 2 sextile his 1H Sun 3 deg trine his 11H Moon His 7H Sco Saturn in my 5H, sextile my 3H Mercury, trine 9H Amor-Osiris Can't say how Saturn influences it otherwise at this stage, but even with a fairly "difficult" square-riddled synastry on the whole, I'm sort of hanging in there in any case. Not as some "Must be together" thing, but in (more or less slowly) maybe wanting a part in their life or something such. Provided we survive the Squarefest, which is another reason why I'm interested in seeing how synastry like that works out with someone. As said, Cancer Saturn and my Uranus in 4H Libra co-rule my DC+8H, so I'm also looking at his Cancer Uranus conjunct his IC with some interest, conjunct my Saturn, ~5 deg square my Uranus. 4H to Cancer symbolism match or whatever Lotis White called those. --- As to other aspects mentioned by others, had my Saturn 2 conj my mother's Sun. Saturn 2 square my father's Aries Venus, his ASC-conjunct-Saturn sextile my Mercury if I recall. I probably felt more so like the parent to some extent with my mother, and remember occasions of not seeing whatever humour in what my friends suggested were supposed to be humorous Christmas or birthday presents from her, for example. Due to certain issues later on, also ended up as if taking care of her one way or another from time to time. My father is a 3-4 time Aries with Sun-Moon square his mid-Cancer ASC-Mars-Saturn. Exceedingly patronising, appearances matter, "Don't you have any material ambition whatsoever?" style crap is the appearance from my end toward whatever crap of his. Our composite has a massive 12H stellium, for whatever it's worth. The only words of praise or good things I remember hearing from him were when he thought I wasn't in the house and got to brag to his older brother about my having won bronze in a judo match. Because only sports mattered or were acceptable, nothing else qualifying for anything of worth, apparently. I assume that he'd also have approved (of more bragging rights) if I'd gotten a supposedly fancy high-paid job at a well-known IT company, since that was the first or only thing he asked about or commented on when I got into a fairly "prestigious" college-type place where such companies recruited from. Because of course the only thing that mattered was if whatever I did looked good for him, reflected well on him. (I'm) Not impressed, in case you missed the point. I see zero point whatsoever to anything such, nor consider it any business of his whatsoever OR any reflection on whatever the hell he is or does if I happen to have punk-style hair or whatever such "scandalous" things "not reflecting well on him", for example. B., please. Get your own life, and with something more internal to it as well, not the Appearances and facade (and bragging about money or such) for others only. I also have what can only describe as PTSD level reactions to him whenever he's drunk, since that was when whatever verbal abuse surfaced. In adult years only interact with each other when it's absolutely necessary, though currently only live whatever 400-500 metres apart. If there aren't others around, whatever nagging or disapproval seems to surface even when he's sober, so no idea why anyone would want to deal with something like that if avoidable. Brother's Venus-Saturn conjuncts my Sun. He's younger. Since we're not a particularly close family, and/or because he has whatever crap of his own that makes him not answer phone calls even from his daughters (living elsewhere) let alone a sister, I guess it's an unusual year if we talk on the phone more often than 3-5 times per year. Neither considers that unusual or untoward, but I consider his not answering his 10-13-year-old daughters to be SCORNED and chided. Swearing withheld. Not sure it'd make much difference if gave him an earful of what really think about his reprehensibly despicable behaviour toward the daughters, since he barely answers the phone to some people (me and my mother included in many cases) in any case, but assume it'd mean even less chances of his answering the phone if I DID happen to call because of having whatever actual business. IP: Logged | |