posted August 04, 2014 03:47 AM            

When one's natal 5H personal points (especially if they're sexual or emotional in nature) overlay on to another's 8H, there appears to be a natural and immediate sexual response.

I suspect it might be the 5H natal placement; this could be shifting the 8H energy towards the sexual side of its expression, as opposed to going with the death and taxes route. (Not that 8H aren't always a little tricky; lots of nuance.)

Naturally, if there are other things linking the two -- by conjunction in the 5H/8H, or aspects between the 5R and 8R -- this can show an emergent theme.

What's your experience or conjecture?

posted August 04, 2014 09:51 AM            

Same goes for Solar Return and natal btw.
(for example this year`s SR SAturn and NN is in 5th house, which falls into the natal 11th house, this might be different than in a year shwere SR planet is in 5th house overlaying the 6th house for example).

As to your theory, it does amaze me how much I react to Mr Sag in, what I call, a visceral way, and probalby is nothing else but physical chemistry. lol
But I am a stranger to experiencing it like this.

In our case his 5th house overlays big part of my 8th house (my 8th is so big, that his 5th is totall stuffed in. lol).

So his Juno falls into his 5th/my 8th, making an exact trine to my Valentine in his 8th/my 12th.
Oh it is also conjunct my Priapus (on 00 Leo) in his 5th/my 8th.

my Saturn, Eros, Vertex all fall into my 8th/his 5th, making a trine to his Valentine in my 11th/his 8th, and also trine my Juno in my 3rd/ his 12th, and my Destinn in my 8th/his 5th opposes his Venus in my 2nd/his 11th.

The link up of our succedent houses never ceases to amaze me. lol
We also have that in composite. and we do have that natally as well. Mirroring each other`s succedent issues as well as activating them through aspects. lol

EDIT:
his 5th house ruler and my 8th house ruler is Moon
my 5th house ruler is Venus, his 8th house ruler is Pluto/Mars.

his 8th house ruler Pluto trines my 8th house ruler.
his 8th house ruler Mars trines my 5th house ruler.
his 5th houe ruler very loosely conjunct my 5th houe ruler (7 degrees).

Interestingly we have a Vesta-Vesta-trine, with my Vesta being conjunct his 5th house ruler in his 10th/my 1st.
Whileh is Vesta on my 5th cusp/ his 1st is trine my 5th house ruler in my 1st/ his 10th.

Just in case anyone wonders about the 10th house in his case.
Well it contains his Sun-Moon-conjunction on the MC, which means that the ruler of his 5th house is expressing in his 10th.

In my case the same is true for my 1st house, as my 5th house ruler is in my 1st.

10th and 1st are pretty much fun for us individually.

posted August 04, 2014 11:10 AM            

His MC/IC is right on my 6th cusp - impacting 5th/11th and 6th/12th
My MC/IC overlays his 2nd/8th

Also his 5th is entirely in my 1st, his 1st in my 8th.

My 5th/8th ruler trine his 8th and his 2nd ruler sextile his 7th sesquisquare his 1st
His 5th conjunct my 1st
His 8th squares my 4th opp my 2nd square my 11th

There are also several esoteric aspects between relationship rulers.

Our 5th/11th and 2nd/8th axis is also intermingled with 1st and 7th.

posted August 04, 2014 03:04 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Think I might be formulating a theory here. It's going to take some field testing, but, for now, it's a strong hypothesis.

When one's natal 5H personal points (especially if they're sexual or emotional in nature) overlay on to another's 8H, there appears to be a natural and immediate sexual response.

I suspect it might be the 5H natal placement; this could be shifting the 8H energy towards the sexual side of its expression, as opposed to going with the death and taxes route. (Not that 8H aren't always a little tricky; lots of nuance.)

Naturally, if there are other things linking the two -- by conjunction in the 5H/8H, or aspects between the 5R and 8R -- this can show an emergent theme.

What's your experience or conjecture?

Why does this particular overlay tend to result in sexual interactions, relations, and dynamics of an almost compulsory nature?

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Being that they are sexual planets I would say yes. I experience a DW moon square mars with those set of planets involved and it was big. Still know her to this day but we are handling things in our own lives

My Venus in the 5th is also exact conjunct her Mars that falls in my 5th

Her Moon conjuncts my Sun as well as my descendant angle

And her Sun quincunxes my moon

posted August 04, 2014 03:45 PM            

Funny, it seems to be about an intense sexual attraction -- which has nothing to do with the actual sexual relations. Either way, I've certainly noticed; it tends to create SUCH an overwhelming, nigh compulsive -- unavoidable -- visceral attraction, that you almost can't ignore it.

posted August 04, 2014 09:48 PM            

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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
Being that they are sexual planets I would say yes. I experience a DW moon square mars with those set of planets involved and it was big. Still know her to this day but we are handling things in our own lives

My Venus in the 5th is also exact conjunct her Mars that falls in my 5th

Her Moon conjuncts my Sun as well as my descendant angle

And her Sun quincunxes my moon

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I wonder; does her MOON on your SUN balance out her MARS on your VENUS? Typically, it's rough with the man's VENUS conjunct the woman's MARS. Are you the less dominant partner?

Also, the real crux of the theory is when the natal planets are in 5H or 8H, overlaying in 8H or 5H -- respectively.

posted August 05, 2014 09:39 AM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
I wonder; does her MOON on your SUN balance out her MARS on your VENUS? Typically, it's rough with the man's VENUS conjunct the woman's MARS. Are you the less dominant partner?

Also, the real crux of the theory is when the natal planets are in 5H or 8H, overlaying in 8H or 5H -- respectively.

Where is her VENUS located natally?

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I don't believe it's negative when it's the woman's mars on the mans Venus. From my experience, it brings out a new type of attraction. Actually found it more appealing that way. And no, I've always been more dominant lol.

Her Venus is in Aries. It opposes my moon

posted August 05, 2014 10:10 AM            

Actually my 8th house Saturn conjuncts his 5th house cusp, which means my 2nd house ruler is on his 5th house cusp.
it`s intriguing, though complex and maybe complicated, cause it is also squaring (4 degrees) his Pluto, which rules his 8th house and is in his 7th house, with my 8th house ruler Moon being trine his Pluto.

I told you it is complex.

I am wondering though, he has his 5th house ruler (Moon) square his 11th house urler Saturn.

Am I bringing into more sharp focus his innate issue surrounding giving and receiving affection? with the 5th house ruler squaring Saturn in his natal, and me now putting my Saturn right on his 5th house cusp, am I sort of fulfilling his natal promise or threat in this case?
In a way fulfilling his expectations of there is never "enough expression of love" or the expression of affection is somehow hindered, blocked or being made possible under certain circumstances (like on a stage maybe? ).

Well noone ever said that was going to be easy. :laughing;

On the other hand it is my 2nd house ruler in his 5th after all, squaring his 8th house ruler in his 7th.

I`ve had the reverse, just in a trine aspect, with someone else.
my 8th house ruler in my 2nd house trine his 2nd house ruler in my 7th house.
It was compulsive for me, though not so much in physical terms as much as in the typical 7th house relationship scenario-imagery. lol

Richard Burton and Liz Taylor apparently had that, (if I got his right bt).
his traditional 8th house ruler in his 7th house squaring her 2nd house ruler in his 11th.

anyway I disgress. a little.

"which has nothing to do with the actual sexual relations. "
Yes, that is an importan point. It is about attraction, not compatibility.

"And for folks like US? Ohhh, buddy. It's like the apocalypse"
It definitely is.

Uranians in the underworld.

posted August 05, 2014 10:43 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
"Aha! I should've caught that, Ceri. I thought you guys might; just had a feeling"
Yes.

Actually my 8th house Saturn conjuncts his 5th house cusp, which means my 2nd house ruler is on his 5th house cusp.

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His SATURN is on my 8C, 1°. Complex, indeed. My PRIAPUS is right on his 5C. Of course.

I also just noticed, off-topic, his TARDIS-DNA (exact) is on his 12C. Exact.

posted August 05, 2014 10:57 AM            

BTW my Priapus falls into his 5th house, though not on the cusp (and my 8th naturally). actually it is conjunct his Juno.

posted August 06, 2014 02:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
That is interesting, with Saturn. A lot to learn I suppose.

BTW my Priapus falls into his 5th house, though not on the cusp (and my 8th naturally). actually it is conjunct his Juno.

What is Tardis?

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