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yungang_grotto
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posted September 12, 2015 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How significant is it?

Maybe since there are no nodes in heliocentric, synastry between the helio and tropical which activates the nodes could be telling...?

Say person a's heliocentric Earth/Moon was conjunct b's tropical North Node which is otherwise sparsely activated (only a moon trine) in the tropical Synastry.

Have your findings been significant in comparing the two? How about helio-helio? I think one person's higher self could totally help out another person's earth based consciousness, if that's how we look at it...

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posted September 12, 2015 11:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel that Heliocentric is a few steps above what we're doing here on Earth, and the Draconic is more the doorway.

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posted September 14, 2015 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is there a staircase and a doorway at the top?

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posted September 14, 2015 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I feel that Heliocentric is a few steps above what we're doing here on Earth, and the Draconic is more the doorway.

So Draco is 4th dimension and Helio would be 5th you think?

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posted September 14, 2015 02:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh--perhaps Draco is the doorway to Helio? That makes sense too--

I just wonder if anybody has noticed anything significant or felt anything notable when comparing their natal tropical with another's helio chart (or vice versa)...

Becaaaause.. my 11 Pisces north node doesn't quite feel loved enough in this relationship, he has nearly zero activity in Pisces, his Sun is on my South Node and in my mind my NN is mega-neglected and that just won't fly...

Buuut with his helio earth and Venus conjunct my tropical NN there's a glimmer of hope... And when we consciously connected the other night with christ consciousness--as I've seen the helio chart referred to as relating to--we had a pretty beautiful and powerful bonding experience and some deep recognition and presence which was quite out of the realm of our usual bickering/fun and games...

And I liked it, I guess that's what I'm getting at, and I'm thinking if we can stay on that frequency or at least access it frequently, there's a lot of light and joy we can access, but we need to be willing to really show up and Be our higher selves and be willing to See that in each other.

Kinda like activating the ninth harmonic aspects. I don't know if I mentioned on here but I recently had a powerful awakening to the depth of my relationship with a soul sister of mine with whom there are few moon aspects .. except a slew of noviles across the charts.. And it took both of us participating in ceremony together to really unlock the depth of our connection, which, now that I'm aware of, I don't think I'll ever lose sight of it, though I know in the mundane world we will still operate at various frequencies, some low and some high--but I'll always love her, yknow?

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posted September 14, 2015 03:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Becaaaause.. my 11 Pisces north node doesn't quite feel loved enough in this relationship, he has nearly zero activity in Pisces, his Sun is on my South Node and in my mind my NN is mega-neglected and that just won't fly...

Buuut with his helio earth and Venus conjunct my tropical NN there's a glimmer of hope... And when we consciously connected the other night with christ consciousness--as I've seen the helio chart referred to as relating to--we had a pretty beautiful and powerful bonding experience and some deep recognition and presence which was quite out of the realm of our usual bickering/fun and games...

And I liked it, I guess that's what I'm getting at, and I'm thinking if we can stay on that frequency or at least access it frequently, there's a lot of light and joy we can access, but we need to be willing to really show up and Be our higher selves and be willing to See that in each other.


These are wonderful, beautiful moments -- and I'd never discount them. But I must warn that this approach feels a bit desperate to me. It's not that far off from 'if he can change, then I can feel loved, and we can be happy.' There's no real way to control these powerful instances of bonding from what I've experienced. They come down to us as the result of hard work and deep connexion, but 'the morning' always follows afterwards.

While the ultimate goal is always to become the most evolved version of ourselves, to rely upon this profound level of transformation in order to feel as if our needs are being met in a relationship is a sign of real trouble. I'm sorry that you guys are having a difficult time being connected in the ways in which you need to be.

I wrote once that productive relationships DO need a balance between NNODE and SNODE energy, as one over the other will neglect the energy that's underrepresented. However, in these cases, transits can work in your favour, as well as other relationships. Do you have any particular family or close girlfriends that can give your Pisces some recuperative love when your beau isn't able to provide?

Thing with the Helio is that it's just so ... out there. I've seen my twin embody its energies once -- and only once -- which led to my fully experiencing and recognising exactly what and truly all that he is. It was an incredible experience. But we can't bank on them. We can be grateful and express our gratitude, and then remember we're here to make this work in reality -- on the level of Earth, too. To love each other in the most mundane ways as well.

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posted September 14, 2015 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I wrote once that productive relationships DO need a balance between NNODE and SNODE energy, as one over the other will neglect the energy that's underrepresented. However, in these cases, transits can work in your favour, as well as other relationships. Do you have any particular family or close girlfriends that can give your Pisces some recuperative love when your beau isn't able to provide?"

yes, this is what I've been thinking.

Really many of my needs are being met and I feel quite grounded and appreciated and able to be myself, to express and create and love my life. I just wonder if he is enhancing this or if it's just the way I am now... Hard to tell... ultimately it is probably not as die as the recent transit of nars Squaring my sun would have me believe. On a practical, mundane level he stands to help me a great deal but I'm wary of convenience based relationship... Still, it's more than that, and hits a lot of the marks in terms of what I require. We just need to develop our anger management skills and remember we care enough about one another not to push our buttons and stuff... If possible... I do tend to need some upheaval to be happy, I'm a fightin sort I'm afraid... Will try to channel the energy better /ramble

We do connect I


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