posted December 13, 2019 07:11 PM            

Only take the South Node seriously if the relationship itself is serious. If two people become sexually or romantically attracted to each other, even that is not a green light for reading the South Node. Maybe they remind each other of mom or dad, and something psychological is happening between them that doesn't really have anything to do with karma. Maybe their hormones are spiking that day. Maybe they're just lonely. Maybe convenience is colliding with opportunity. But if they stay together for a few consecutive weekends, if the shock of sexual intimacy doesn't boot them out of each other's orbits, its a good bet that they have some kind of prior life link.

The composite South Node primarily represent unresolved wounds, tragedies, limitations and failures from the past which potentially interfere with our ability to fulfill our soul-contract in this lifetime.

Strategies in the Synastric Analysis of the Composite South Node of The Moon aka Finding the Karmic Story

The most elemental information regarding the unresolved prior-life situation of the dyad derives from the sign and the house of the Moon's South Node.
1. The sign describes the prior personality and energy of the dyad, and its evolutionary agenda at the time.
2. The house describes the actual, existential circumstances, the physical scene, in which the dyad encountered its experiences.

Almost equally revealing is the planetary ruler of the Moon's South Node. According to its sign and house, we discover:
1. Another active, tactical, specific dimension of the dyad's larger agenda, nature, and circumstances.
2. A crucial crisis or pivotal chapter in the novel of the dyad's prior-life story.
Hint: pay close attention to the darker, Shadow-side of the sign, house, and planetary ruler for clues about any challenging impacts on the present life.

A planet conjunct the Moon's South Node or its ruler significantly modifies, deepens, and develops what we've learned from the sign/house dynamic. It expands upon the intentions, nature, and evolutionary or existential strategies of the dyad. It refers to the dyad itself, in its own nature.

All other planetary aspects to the South Node tend to refer primarily to external realities: to circumstances and specific people existing in relation to the dyad in the prior life. (What follows can also be applied with some caution to planetary aspects to the ruler of the South node.)

A planet opposing the South Node represents something or someone who blocked or repressed the fulfillment of the dyad's evolutionary intuition. It symbolizes the brick wall of reality. It also represent something that felt far away or unattainable, and thus longed for.

A planet square the South Node has four dimension:
1. People or issues that crossed, vexed, or undercut the dyad's evolutionary intent.
2. It is therefore issues left unresolved from the past, which press again in the present life.
3. Simultaneously, it is a skipped step, which must be faced and resolved in order for evolutionary progress to continue.
4. The planet now hangs in balance between past and future---thus, we look for ways it can serve the North Node's intentions . . . or be swept into supporting the repetition of the South Node's patterning.

A planet trine or sextile the South Node represents people or circumstances with supported the dyad in a prior life. Hint: always be alert to ways in which the dyad could have been "supported" in folly or self-sabotage.

The so-called "minor aspects" can play a role in this kind of analysis too, but we tend to shy away from them, favoring a deeper look at the foundation above spreading ourselves too thinly over details. Very briefly:
Quincunxes suggests tensions, wild cards, situations or people that came in out of the blue and changed everything or required a lot of adjustment.
Sesquiqaudrates suggest situations and relationships that tied us in knots, were intellectually confusing, and which smacked of "damned if we do, damned if we don't".
Semi-squares chronic but tolerable vexations that took their toll by attrition. Think of mosquitos.
Quintiles suggest breaks in the actions, temporary reprieves, "divine visitations," and creative interludes.

So, for the fun of this excerpt, I'd like to invite others to assess what their Composite Chart karmic histories are. (i.e. Mars is violence, 9th house immigration, voyages, 2nd house is money, material issues of survival, Jupiter King, Gemini is siblings, etc etc)

Remember, this is past-life karmic retribution, so you may need to imagine the darker and/or unromantic possibilities... Perhaps, you both were in the military together and went on a "liberating" victory spree after seizing the opponent and her nubile citizens---11th House SN Aries conjunct Jupiter, Mars in 5th house. Or another example: 9th SN, Ruler in 12th---couple on voyage, but ship sank.

posted December 13, 2019 09:28 PM            

I have Mercury conjunct SN in 6H. My 6H cusp is in Sag but traditional ruler of 6H is Mercury, so this is a good placement for Mercury. I believe having Sag here means that Jupiter expands things for my mental capacity and for all matters related to the 6H of work, service and daily routines. These are the skills I brought with me and can rely on when I need something familiar to fall back on. This is so very true! I love an organized home and an organized life! I have learned to let go a little and am not so OCD about things, which has released a great deal of mental pressure that I would exert on myself through negative messages. Quite freeing and healing!
I have MH square my SN, so I have no idea what this might mean as a block. Ideas?

My guy has Mars conjunct SN in 2H. The cusp of his 2H is Libra, so Venus is ruler and being the second house, which Taurus naturally rules, he has another Venus influence. For him I do see how the 2H works in his life. He has his own business. He doesn't like routines, regiments, or restrictions when it comes to his work. He likes to work alone and be in charge. I don't know if he is impulsive with his money, rather I think he covets his money and would be miserly...I don't think he would share his resources. He has no planets in 5th or 8th, so this is why I say he is probably very careful with his money.

Interestingly, we both have Venus sextile our SN in our natal charts. Reading the information from what you posted it looks like we both might receive help with our SN through planets in Venusian houses. For me, my 5th house cusp is Libra, and I have Venus, Neptune, and Sun in the 5H. I have an intercepted 11H ruled by Taurus, which has Jupiter. So, I have some ideas of what this might mean, but would love to hear others interpretations.

My guy has 9H cusp in Taurus. No planets here. But his Venus is in his 12H, in Virgo. I don't know if that is the connection for him. Perhaps connections to his Venus is what will bring him the impetus he needs to move forward on his SN issues? He also has Pluto in the 12H, and it is semisquare his SN. Not sure what influence that would have.

So, the reason I was investigating the SN, is that his IC conjuncts my SN and his SN conjuncts our Venus/Mars conjunction. I feel as if there is a past life connection between us, still trying to figure this whole thing out.

Oh, I should have read this post carefully! LOL! I gave the aspects for synastry.

posted December 13, 2019 10:51 PM            

We have...

South Node Sign: Leo

South Node House: 2nd House

South Node Ruler and Sign: Sun. Also in Leo conjunct the South Node less than a degree.

South Node Ruler House: 2nd House, ruled by the Moon.

Conjunctions to South Node Ruler: Venus at 5°. Venus is in the 3rd House, also in Leo.

All Aspects to South Node: Pluto square the Nodes and Sun at 4°. Pluto Parallel North Node/ Contra-Parallel South Node at 0°15'

posted December 15, 2019 04:27 AM            

My guy and I have:
South Node Sign: Taurus
South Node House: 3rd
South Node Ruler and Sign: Venus in Cancer
South Node Ruler House: 5th
Conjunctions to South Node Ruler: Mars
All Aspects to South Node: opposite Scorpio Uranus 9th house, square Leo Saturn 5th house

We were siblings in the past who got separated by violence/War?

posted February 20, 2020 11:59 AM            

@hikaru theme around familiars repeats twice, 3rd SN external circumstance (siblings or cousins or neighbors). crisis was SN Ruler Venus in Cancer (love for family) in 5th (romance/children) — plus Mars sex. Taurus evolutionary agenda pleasure, opposition by (liberation) Uranus of (taboo) Scorpio — sexual rebellion. square-vexed by Leo Saturn perhaps punishment by establishment for inappropriate relations or illegitimate offspring.

@moongirl for some reason you were “in hiding”... which house is the moon in?

posted February 20, 2020 02:25 PM            

A planet that opposes the SN would automatically be conjunct the NN - I do not understand how this could translate it to blockage of fulfillment of any kind. I guess it would depend on the planet, but any planet conjunct the NN is supposed to charge it with some sort of intent and flavor? Huh

posted February 20, 2020 03:39 PM            

supposedly the block, by literal person or circumstance, happened in a prior lifetime, thus in this incarnation (dependent on chosen birthdates—hence their insistence on a committed pair only trying the exercise) the mark of fate shows as a planet on the NN, perhaps most noticed as a compulsion in the couple, or quickening in affect, for what end and more importantly, what purpose? Rahu energy is insatiable. The authors noted it as for the purpose of unresolved karmic retribution

the language used to describe the chapter is hard to wrap ones head around, took me a few tries. but really requires creative symbolic liberty to free associate and speculate hypothetically, and not get hung up on “the future” as the past is as elusive, written in the stars as we live it, with another

posted February 20, 2020 04:10 PM            

"as the basis for the composite chart; Always use the place where they first met."

posted February 22, 2020 11:01 PM            

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Originally posted by vansio:
@hikaru theme around familiars repeats twice, 3rd SN external circumstance (siblings or cousins or neighbors). crisis was SN Ruler Venus in Cancer (love for family) in 5th (romance/children) — plus Mars sex. Taurus evolutionary agenda pleasure, opposition by (liberation) Uranus of (taboo) Scorpio — sexual rebellion. square-vexed by Leo Saturn perhaps punishment by establishment for inappropriate relations or illegitimate offspring.

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Hi vansio, that's very interesting interpretation!

IF there is really reincarnation, I believe he and I must be close family member (maybe first cousins or something) due to the instant familiarity I have with him. Conjunct Mars could indicate sexual attraction between us but our romance (ruler in 5H) was prohibited...maybe we had children too and that's why in this life, he keeps saying he wants a child with me. We could've been torn apart by the elders in the family or society (Saturn square).

posted February 22, 2020 11:02 PM            

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Originally posted by vansio:

must use the composite chart with reference place method available on astro.com, making sure to first change the reference place in extended chart selection to the city before drawing

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posted March 02, 2020 09:37 PM            

South Node Sign: Capricorn
South Node House: 7th
South Node Ruler: Saturn

No conjunctions to SN ruler

All aspects to SN ruler:

Sat tr jump
Sat sq venus
Sat opposite moon
Sat sq neptune
Sat sextile MC

posted March 15, 2020 10:27 AM            

South Node Sign: Leo 15.04
South Node House Placement: 3rd cusp at 15.55 (so 2nd or 3rd?)
South Node Ruler and it's Sign: Sun in Pisces 00.44
South Node Ruler House Placement: 9th house
Conjunctions to South Node Ruler: My Jupiter/Sun (00/02), Her Sun/Saturn (29/02)
All Aspects to South Node:

Conjunct Fixed star Dubhe*

Opposite her Mars (Aqu 16.13)
Opposite my Vesta (Aqu 14.51)

Square her Jupiter (Sco 14.29)
Square my Part of Weddings (Tau 15.06)
Square composite Pluto (17.41)
Wide Square composite BML (Tau 12.00)

Trine Great Attractor (Sag 13.46/13.53)

Her Mars (in her 7th and conj 8th-to-9th house cusp) is absolutely the master-key in terms of healing.

Sabian for SN: THE STORM ENDED, ALL NATURE REJOICES IN BRILLIANT SUNSHINE
Sabian for her Mars: A WATCHDOG STANDS GUARD, PROTECTING HIS MASTER AND HIS POSSESSIONS
Sabian for my Vesta: TWO LOVEBIRDS SITTING ON A FENCE AND SINGING HAPPILY

- The watchdog must be integrated with the self so that it stops keeping 'intruders' from expanding the limited ego-identity.
- My devotion to the relation was a devotion to the watchdog as well, but it took time to realize that the highest level of devotion involved the requirement to awaken the watchdog from its blindness to the violence of its protective instinct.

That's what I have for now before my laptop runs out of batteries - if anyone wants to continue interpretation based on past lives please go ahead.

posted March 15, 2020 01:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
ref place method when reading composites?? How do you change the city selection?

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