posted December 15, 2013 06:32 PM              

Agree, disagree?

posted December 15, 2013 06:53 PM              

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Originally posted by SDragon:
Not sure how it works when you're not in a 'relationship' per se, like just casual acquaintances, but in a relationship, I'd say yes, total emotional honesty is required otherwise pluto will become restless and things can become bitter. The whole push pull thing.

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posted December 15, 2013 08:20 PM              

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
So, that's the lesson, then, so to speak? Total emotional honesty?

His MOON opposite my PLUTO (1) conjunct his MARS (>1).

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posted December 15, 2013 11:42 PM              

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Originally posted by Venusian Moon:
Yeah and dont play games with eachother.

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This is TRUE. Luckily me and this person never did, but there was a sensitive bond between us we didn't really know what to do with since there's such an age difference (4 years).

posted December 16, 2013 05:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Venusian Moon:

I agree. I have moon trine pluto with my ex but we still talk as friends and its like that.

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posted December 17, 2013 12:42 AM              

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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
Same here.

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I guess we are not friends anymore. He flew into a jealous rage because my daughters father and i settled our differences and he is back in my daughters life. He cursed me out and told me to go f myself. He said have a fun time with your booty calls. Hes so immature. I am done with the friendship. I am not back with my daughters father. He is back with my daughter. Mr. Gemini has venus square pluto in his natal and he doesnt trust anyone.

SYNASTRY:

Pluto conjunct uranus
Moon trine pluto
Mars conjunct pluto
Lilith square pluto
Sun square pluto
Pluto trine saturn
Uranus sextile pluto
Asc sextile pluto
Pluto semi square Asc

COMPOSITE:

Venus trine pluto
Neptune sextile pluto
Pluto sextile Asc

Too much pluto is draining. Thats why we broke up.

posted December 17, 2013 12:54 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
There's multiple lessons! Like letting go of fear which intertwines with emotional honesty. Conjunct Mars? Is he extremely reactive to you / you him?

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Emotional, intimate honesty - if THAT makes sense. We reach a completely new, incredible level - leaving behind our past pains and traumas, ditching our repression - the whole nine yards - in this place of total, intimate honesty. Really, the combination of physical intimacy and complete honesty regarding 'horrifyingly private' matters.

posted December 17, 2013 03:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Venusian Moon:
I guess we are not friends anymore. He flew into a jealous rage because my daughters father and i settled our differences and he is back in my daughters life. He cursed me out and told me to go f myself. He said have a fun time with your booty calls. Hes so immature. I am done with the friendship. I am not back with my daughters father. He is back with my daughter. Mr. Gemini has venus square pluto in his natal and he doesnt trust anyone.

SYNASTRY:

Pluto conjunct uranus
Moon trine pluto
Mars conjunct pluto
Lilith square pluto
Sun square pluto
Pluto trine saturn
Uranus sextile pluto
Asc sextile pluto
Pluto semi square Asc

COMPOSITE:

Venus trine pluto
Neptune sextile pluto
Pluto sextile Asc

Too much pluto is draining. Thats why we broke up.

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I'm sorry to hear about this. I've got the Venus-Pluto square natally, so I know what you're talking about when you say he's got trust issues.

Thankfully, in my case, the guy has only one hard aspect: Pluto-Mercury square. Everything else is trine, sextile and conjunction. Doesn't stop him from trying to make me jealous every now and then, but I don't really give him room to grow. We're friends now and that's how it's going to stay.

posted December 17, 2013 04:03 PM              

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Originally posted by SDragon:
I think what gets tossed around a lot with these aspects is the game playing, the maturity it requires to deal with it, etc, but I think what it ultimately comes down to is Trust.

Can you open your wounds, your hurts, your dysfunctional beliefs, the whole of who you are and TRUST that the other will treat it like the special gift it is - with care, compassion, sensitivity, with a quality that closely resembles unconditional love. Something we need to learn to give to ourselves and sometimes something we need to experience from another before we even know what it is...

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Is that the opposition though? Or softer aspects...

posted December 17, 2013 04:30 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Is that the opposition though? Or softer aspects...

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Trust is universal. It's only the mind that wants to analyze oppositions, squares, etc. If you have trust, regardless of what happens with the other person, you will grow stronger. It's not the one that gets hurt by trusting too much that suffers the most because in the end, they will be closer to true intimacy than the one that lacks in it.

posted December 17, 2013 05:56 PM            

He was the one who started talking/flirting first. It didn't phase me in the beginning, then a year later my feelings for him hit me out of no where.
Having Sag mercury in 9H sq Jupiter, I'm very blunt, so once I knew that I had a crush on him I immediately asked him on a date. At first he said yes, then he became distant & to my surprise changed his mind. In the process he tried to console me, but I became bitter. I blocked all contact with him, and from what our mutual friend told me, that upset him to the point that I no longer exist to him. From how distant he became, I had no idea that cutting him out would anger him that much. (His Nessus sq my Dejan exact)

posted December 17, 2013 08:42 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
This is TRUE. Luckily me and this person never did, but there was a sensitive bond between us we didn't really know what to do with since there's such an age difference (4 years).

I have Moon opposite Pluto with someone else who was 2 years older and I attest to not playing games like you said. When I spoke from the heart it seemed to bond us really closely, but once you break that kind of energy and bond it's very hard to recreate because then the bitterness sets in. I don't think you can avoid bitterness (if there's a disruption) when you have Moon / Pluto in synastry.

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It takes a lot of emotional maturity to avoid that, yes. Certainly not impossible to recreate, but if both who are involved are less evolved there, it can certainly deteriorate into games and manipulations.

posted December 17, 2013 08:45 PM            

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Originally posted by SDragon:
I think what gets tossed around a lot with these aspects is the game playing, the maturity it requires to deal with it, etc, but I think what it ultimately comes down to is Trust.

Can you open your wounds, your hurts, your dysfunctional beliefs, the whole of who you are and TRUST that the other will treat it like the special gift it is - with care, compassion, sensitivity, with a quality that closely resembles unconditional love. Something we need to learn to give to ourselves and sometimes something we need to experience from another before we even know what it is...

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posted December 17, 2013 08:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Moonfish:
Have this aspect with my crush of 2 yrs. my Moon trines his Pluto & squares his Saturn, both exact.

He was the one who started talking/flirting first. It didn't phase me in the beginning, then a year later my feelings for him hit me out of no where.
Having Sag mercury in 9H sq Jupiter, I'm very blunt, so once I knew that I had a crush on him I immediately asked him on a date. At first he said yes, then he became distant & to my surprise changed his mind. In the process he tried to console me, but I became bitter. I blocked all contact with him, and from what our mutual friend told me, that upset him to the point that I no longer exist to him. From how distant he became, I had no idea that cutting him out would anger him that much. (His Nessus sq my Dejan exact)

Despite things ending before they even started. I still have the most intense crush on him then I've ever had on a guy. Though I know that staying away from each other is for the best..

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I've SO been there, Moonfish. I'm really sorry to hear that, too. And it's my Twinflame, of all things. We're still close - in our way. But he admits that, the back and forth we did in the beginning, hurt too much overall, and while it's an illogical 'hatred', it's still there. He can't shake it. He's too afraid (and absolutely certain) of losing me, that he can't even approach the topic. So, I've had to 'move on' several times.

posted December 17, 2013 08:51 PM            

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Originally posted by OzMeg22278:
My pluto conjuncts his moon and his pluto squares my moon. Interesting...

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