posted May 22, 2018 08:13 PM            

I have it again with a current love interest. I am still encouraging him to grow, but this time I hold back from investing so much in his life path so that I have energy for mine.

posted May 22, 2018 08:28 PM            

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Originally posted by StoneMoon:
Yes, my mars conjunct ex husbands NN. I was constantly pushing him, encouraging him to aim for more. Over time, it was exhausting. He fought it, didn't want to grow and evolve. He liked status quo. I was completely drained from giving him so much energy. I left.

I have it again with a current love interest. I am still encouraging him to grow, but this time I hold back from investing so much in his life path so that I have energy for mine.

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posted May 22, 2018 10:24 PM            

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Originally posted by arcturiann:
Have any of you experienced this? Particularly in a romantic relationship? What was it like?

Thank you.

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posted May 23, 2018 05:54 AM            

I'm the NN

I had never experienced this conjunction before.. But with him.. This is the hottest thing I have ever experienced (we have other great synastry aspects too)

posted May 23, 2018 08:15 AM            

Look at the sign it's in, consider the maturity of the couple involved, and whether the NN person is inclined to want to reach their NN. My ex was not and still is not interested in growth and betterment. The man I am with now most definitely is.

posted May 23, 2018 12:59 PM            

Rahu explodes things while Ketu implodes them.

When Rahu (NN) is conjunct the fighting planet of mars it often explodes and enhances the person's mars. And therefore as the relationship moves forward it tends to have more senseless arguing and more selfishness which usually comes from the mars person.

posted May 23, 2018 06:53 PM            

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Originally posted by manderin:
Mars is considered a malefic planet.

Rahu explodes things while Ketu implodes them.

When Rahu (NN) is conjunct the fighting planet of mars it often explodes and enhances the person's mars. And therefore as the relationship moves forward it tends to have more senseless arguing and more selfishness which usually comes from the mars person.

Not generally considered a good combination.

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This is what I am worried about. However it is good to hear there are some successful couples with this aspect out there... however some of them seem to have other nodal conjunctions that may attenuate the aggressiveness.

Waxlobster, for example north node + vertex I hear is one of the strongest indicators of marriage in synastry from statistical analyses online. Also with his mars on your south node I bet that helps reduce the aggressiveness on his end.

posted May 24, 2018 06:54 AM            

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Originally posted by arcturiann:

Waxlobster, for example north node + vertex I hear is one of the strongest indicators of marriage in synastry from statistical analyses online. Also with his mars on your south node I bet that helps reduce the aggressiveness on his end.

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Hi Arcturiann,

He's not in the least bit aggressive, but fortunately, as his Mars is in a grand trine with most of the rest of my chart it is well expressed :-)

I wouldn't worry about Mars being 'malefic' the same people who decided that, also decided that Halleys comet brought the plague. Psychology has moved on, along with knowledge and we no longer live in a patriarchal society with heads of the 'wrong' religion put on spikes.

Mars is simply our physical energy and how we express that. Sure in an event chart it can predict aggression and far-reaching decisions, but in a natal chart it is neither good nor bad. None of the planets are, not even Chiron. 'Good' and 'Bad' are old fashioned man-made precepts, anything can be used for growth or oppression. Jupiter can lead us astray just as easily as Mars if we allow it.

posted May 26, 2018 08:04 AM            

the comet existed before it was named! The bayeux tapestry famously depicts it back in the 11th Century and they really did think that comets brought doom and the plague. In fact there are still theories about this!

posted May 26, 2018 11:27 AM            

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Originally posted by waxlobster:
Manderin,

the comet existed before it was named! ;-)

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Yes it was. Which is exactly why I mentioned "thousands of years" before it was named. So in effect- a long time prior to any of the famous plagues and before the comet was even deemed as reaccurring as opposed to just a random comet like any other.

posted July 20, 2018 05:39 PM            

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Originally posted by arcturiann:
Have any of you experienced this? Particularly in a romantic relationship? What was it like?

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Yes. I was NN and she is Mars.

posted July 20, 2018 05:41 PM            

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Originally posted by manderin:
Mars is considered a malefic planet.

Rahu explodes things while Ketu implodes them.

When Rahu (NN) is conjunct the fighting planet of mars it often explodes and enhances the person's mars. And therefore as the relationship moves forward it tends to have more senseless arguing and more selfishness which usually comes from the mars person.

Not generally considered a good combination.

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posted July 20, 2018 07:20 PM            

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Originally posted by ScandinavianCrab:
Yes. I was NN and she is Mars.

I will never put myself in a similar synastry-situation ever again. If you want an advise it would be to not make any commitments without exploring this thoroughly relationship-wise first. It might work if ure 95 years old and on heavy medication.

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Could you explain what happened in your case please?

posted July 21, 2018 06:26 AM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:

Could you explain what happened in your case please?

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I guess i should point out that her Sun, Mercury and Mars all conjunct my NN.

There was a lot going on in this relationship and i don't think you could blame it all on one aspect. To be fair i think you much take in consideration experiences from past relationships also as general expectations sterling from them.

At the core i think it was and is a total clash of egos, or more a clash of core values.
From my perspective she where the queen who would make all the decisions, and do very little work or "sacrifices", while i felt as merely a water bearer who's sole purpose and existence was to please her and her wishes.

I do believe in making sacrifices for your family, or the greater good of the family. But there got to be some balance to it.

I believe that the reason it is called the Dragons Head is because if you move in with Mars and challenge him at the head it will ultimately end with fire and fury. Every time.

posted July 21, 2018 08:16 AM            

I see..
This seems weird the planet person is supposed to teach the NN person and make it come closer to his path. I don't know if you have planets conjucting you NN natally or generally supportive aspects to the NN, it's even more difficult if you have supportive aspects to your SN. Is your NN in Leo?
It's not the first time I see a NN person "hating" the way the planet acts, the NN person has to learn from that but he/she doesn't like it because it's the opposite from his SN. NN is consider difficult and many people won't ever develop their NN they will stay in their SN. I never even once liked people whose planet conjucted my SN I never liked the whole SN sign. I was always attracted to men with heavy Capricorn (my NN in 7th H Cap)

I have this with someone but it is the opposite. His NN in Aqua opposite my Mars, Venus and Jupiter.

While me NN in Capricorn his Mars, Venus and Saturn conjuct my NN.
How would you think it would play out?

posted July 21, 2018 08:57 AM            

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ScandinavianCrab

I see..
This seems weird the planet person is supposed to teach the NN person and make it come closer to his path. I don't know if you have planets conjucting you NN natally or generally supportive aspects to the NN, it's even more difficult if you have supportive aspects to your SN. Is your NN in Leo?
It's not the first time I see a NN person "hating" the way the planet acts, the NN person has to learn from that but he/she doesn't like it because it's the opposite from his SN. NN is consider difficult and many people won't ever develop their NN they will stay in their SN. I never even once liked people whose planet conjucted my SN I never liked the whole SN sign. I was always attracted to men with heavy Capricorn (my NN in 7th H Cap)

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Well in a sense she set me on a path towards my NN. But the result was a civil war.
You see i would prefer a relationship with balance, that is more about both giving and receiving than just one of those things. In this particular relationship, yes its my NN in Leo, i had to, in the end, step up and become more of my north node. But the result of that became two persons claiming "the throne" and neither of us could live under those circumstances.

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:

I have this with someone but it is the opposite. His NN in Aqua opposite my Mars, Venus and Jupiter.

While me NN in Capricorn his Mars, Venus and Saturn conjuct my NN.
How would you think it would play out?

*What you're saying about sacrifices sounds like Neptune hard aspects?

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Well. Consider i'm no pro in these matters, far from it. But generally speaking the Cancer-Capricorn is often refereed to as the Home/Career-axis. So maybe he will challenge you in some way to focus more on external/10th house-matters than where you feel more at home, in the home/parenting-ish areas.

So it may be that he will set you off on a path to making a career, but in the end you two will start a war about who should be home taking care of children etc because he still has his planets in the "industrious" Capricorn, not the "home loving" cancer.

I don't know, but for me it makes some kind of sense.

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:

About the ego clashes.. I have this problems all the efing time since my Mars is always squaring their Sun and although we both have big egos I feel like I am the worst one. I don't mean it in a way of me first attitude, I am the one being always right or that it's all about me I mean it in a way that I am extremely proud and I always think "if he likes me he'll send/talk first or he'll do this and that" maybe it sounds childish or very Leo like (Venus Mars and Jupiter in Leo square Pluto) but I feel like the other one should be the hunter and I feel like my feelings are magically obvious and that the other person knows them and if he feels the same he has to show it. Which is unfair for the other person but I realised it quite late and it has to do with the fact that I believe that men are cold and they only care about sex so in my mind they don't need anything else. Like they don't have real emotions or their emotions are swallow.

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