posted May 23, 2018 09:57 AM            

Just wondering if you'd like to share your progressed key points and do you feel them or would you say you're more a hybrid (with Trop)?

(Pls don't quote)
Here's  mine
I really "feel my progressed sr" as opposed to when using the tropical  format.
My Sun in Tropical progressed is an Exalted Aries, which doesn't  speak to me in the least. I have no motivation, fire, drive. Passionless. Same goes for Venus, she's  not lit like fire would do to ignite her to evoke some liveliness. An Ascendant Aquarius  isn't  fitting either, I've  not been *group minded* much. I'm more brain oriented but that isn't 'always' Aquarian.

Within the sidereal.
The Ascendant is the goat. I feel like an old one. lol .. I've  become more rigid, less thrilled with entertainment as in my earlier years. Less likely to blend with others in that way. Honestly  it feels like I have late life Autism. This is by no means meant to offend  anyone. I know a couple different  people via family who have Autism. I just have become less relatable to my loved ones. I'm reading a lot though.

Sun is in Pisces. I've given into escapism, bad habits and been isolated more during this progressed period.

- My Mercury (Pisces)  is in both DETRIMENT +fall. This reflects how my negative  behaviour  has corrupted my happiness and well being, which old man Saturn (Ari) is in  Fall too, and this past cpl years I've  been pretty undisciplined. I'm  paying for it in a big way .My mind hasn't  been engaged  enough to keep on task. This is of course after following  a powerful life change (full hysterectomy) that disrupted many aspects to me as a human (and a woman) both  physically  and emotionally.
To add my Venus is exalted in Pisces but I've  been using it, I think on the negative  side. Relationships have been difficult at best. Especially  with my mother. Which there is also an opposition  between my Moon+Mars. (Mars is Exalted, I'm  trying to cord cut some portions of this).

posted May 23, 2018 03:09 PM            

YOU are one of the people here at LL who is MOST-conscientious AND works on herself all the time.

Gently.... You tend to be sooo hard on yourself. {{{ }}} You try and try and try.

I'd like to recommend someone for you to 'listen' to for a defined period of time? Make it your assignment for a season?

Listen to Adam Elenbaas give some counsel.
I have benefited from listening to his vids.

Be objective, and just gently listen and 'hold space' to some of his thoughts and ideas.

I think that if you would be able to "consider" some of what he saying, that it could help relieve you very much.

I like 'mixing it up' too … Thing is, you can mess yourself up doing it from a standpoint of 'you' as 'fallen' or filled with short-comings and so many faults? That's called using the tools and tech-language too literally.

Sometimes things happen to us that are NOT our fault. We MUST self-care and nurture the Good parts of us... of our thinking, of our charts and aspects, and ALL of it.

I LIKE being wild and experimental and Complicated! Heck!!! I'm a (western) Gemmi with a Virgo Moon...
Vedic Ketu-Mercury and Mars are both Gemini too???
(But will have to clarify and fact-check that one later. There are conflicting graphs as far as nakshatras and the padas are listed.)
I specialize in 'complicated' and OVER OVER OVER thinking EVERYTHING?

Vedic Sun is Taurus, and Still managed to keep my Virgo Moon. *grin*

But ya know???? We gotta hug each other, love-up on each other, and be an encouragement (TRADE encouragements!!! LOL) when in despair, OR, when in Celebration-mode.

I know you're not feeling well physically too, right now. Awwww. That's the ~pits!!! and soooo unfair??? (speaking from personal experience here???).

The other day...
I was exploring Astrodienst, and found the interactive Chart feature. When you move the mouse and click, it gives you a sidebar with ALL the aspects AND descriptions.

I found some Good there!!!
I found things I hadn't "considered" that work FOR my chart, and not 'against'.

Go there and see it, if you haven't found it yet.

See Free Horoscope
drop menu
"interactive" section
AstroClick Portrait

posted May 24, 2018 09:43 AM            

Thank you for your wonderful reply.
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Mirage
  I didn't  realise it showed online too re my being harsh  to myself. wow.
I know,  I get rough on myself but the Saturn  influence  is so strong in my blueprints, it's  hard to balance it all out. Maybe that's  my viscous cycle, screw off with Venus helping me to an indulgent behavior and let Saturn takeover to scold me. Hence being so tough on myself.

Is Adam Elenaas a podcast counsel or youtube?
I will be objective. Believe me, I need all the insight  to get me through this bend of my journey , this lifetime. Thank you for his recommendation.

Your Virgo/Mercury  aren't  going anywhere  (it shows too, you're pretty brilliant )   

Yes, I too enjoy the features astrodienst  offers.
I look at them especially on Thursdays, they unlock more reading on Jupiters day.
No worries over my current progressed, I mostly wondered if others too felt the sidereal moreso. I was sharing mine to emphasize I really feel mine.

Thank you for the love and  *hugs* .. sending you back *big warm hugs*
♡♡ Mirage ♡♡

posted May 25, 2018 05:45 PM            

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
Mirage *heart*
  I didn't realize it showed online too re my being harsh to myself. wow.

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*jawdrop* gently, Hellooo??? *smile* *hug*
(Maybe.. it takes one to know one? *wink*)

If you lived close by me, I would say,
"Let's go out and let our innerChild have fun for a while."

"Too MUCH Saturn reality and seriousness can kill you!!" --r.l.

You need some Joy-permission,
A License to be loose and be yourself,
To be able to hang-out with someone--
who has a streak of outrageous playful-riot {?ME? haha}

Transiting Venus opposes Saturn today.
So, that means PLAY ~HARD? (?Saturn)?? ~~~~

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The guy mentioned has a youtube.
Is a 'hellenistic' astrologer (a whole other very ancient system that some are trying to revive and understand).
(Is a Krishna devotee(?). … I can translate it into my own energetics spiritually. Not everyone can do that.... but, you can try? If you get uncomfortable, then that's understandable.)

Helenistic 'language' (IF taken personally) can feel much-rougher than most. Like reading ancient delineations about fixed-stars and Constellations. Those can sound quite 'condemning' and fatal, as well.

The things he's been talking about over the past 2 or 3 weeks, might feel extra-clarifying to you (~maybe?), regarding the interpretation of 'technical language' used in astrology. It's easy to misinterpreted what you hear as being something 'bad' or wrong about you, about your chart and about other people.

We need to resist the temptation to associate a modern cultural 'non-astrological' meaning to the ancient words. The words meant something really different to the scientists in that ancient culture and era.

So. Not all the things you might hear is easy either, okay? He does like to express his opinion.
.. But, the vids I discovered recently felt extra insightful (over the past few weeks).

You need to practice more Kindness towards yourself. *Heart*

{video} Michele Knight of UK sets 'scopes in more positive terms (for people who are extra hard on themselves).

Also, there was another lady who doesn't seem to be as active on youtubes anymore, named Jennifer Angel, who gave some VERY constructive interpretations.
She's a Capricorn with a Sag Rising???

I say that because I think those are the (western) signs that both you and I would follow?
(at least for me, Sag for the rising signs, with Capricorn included, because I have intercepted houses, western-placidus.)

Anyway. I'm going to stop giving out my playlist here! (laughing)

{Those are all Western astrologers}
Have you watched any Joni Patry Vedic vids?
You already said you know about MTZ Athens C. Sidereal?
Both of those do hybrid and semi-hybrid system approaches.
Joni is a Vedic. Athens is a western-sidereal.

I'm trying to be specific in my vid-recommendations to 'you', MoonMystic.

There are many good astrologers out there to be discovered by serendipity. I hate to play favorites because they are each valuable in their own way, during the period of you life you utilize them. Just depends how far into the subject you've gone, and how comfortable you would feel with the material.

I think a 'key' here for you is interpreting the language so you don't apply it badly about yourself. (me too)

If you wanted,
I could TRY to remember ~which of that guy's vids I saw that had the information I'm talking about?
.. Or better actually --
If you feel inclined, take some time, and scrub through some of the ones he's done since just-before Uranus entered Taurus. (Western!! LOL)

I might edit (or adjust) some of the names later.