Lindaland
  Linda's Life
  BiBi DeAngelo shares photo of Sally - Linda Goodman's Daughter (Page 1)

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq

UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone!
This topic is 7 pages long:   1  2  3  4  5  6  7 
next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   BiBi DeAngelo shares photo of Sally - Linda Goodman's Daughter
BiBi DeAngelo
Knowflake

Posts: 923
From: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Registered: Apr 2009

posted October 27, 2007 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BiBi DeAngelo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here


This the photo of Sally – Linda Goodman’s daughter – as promised in my topic thread (this photo was given to me personally by Linda)….. BiBi DeAngelo. [NOTE: To answer a question I have been asked... This information was posted first... here on Linda-Goodman.com and then taken to other sites.]

Birth name: Sarah Elizabeth Synder
Stage name: Sarah Stratton

Excerpts from: “Spider Line – Linda’s Goodman’s Search for Sally”

1. “Sally disappeared after threats against her children’s lives were received by Linda Goodman wile she was investigating the boat called “Star Quest”, involved with Watergate and many other nefarious activities under President Richard Nixon.”
2. “There is excellent cause to believe that Sally is alive, and that the book’s revelations of the circumstances causing Sally’s involuntary disappearance.”
3. While Linda was writing a series of articles for McCall’s Magazine, Linda and the Senior Editor, Dalma Heyn, choose the name “Spider Line” for the book. The choice was easy since Dr. Angel (for many years Curator of Physical anthropology for the Smithsonian Institute) told Linda “that in all his years as curator in all thousands, even millions of faces he had studied, he had never once come across the particular “mark” that has appeared in every photograph of Sally, including those taken as a child and blown up.” That mark looked like a Spider Line. The other reason “Spider Line” was a great choice was because it suggests the intricate cobweb of conspiracy Linda came across in her search for Sally!
4. Spring of 1973, Sally then 20 years old, graduated from the American Academy of Dramatic Arts, in New York, where she won the “Best Actress” award, presented by Richard Rodgers and Helen Hayes. Within a few weeks Sally was off to begin her career with her new stage name that Linda had suggested because it was a family surname – Sarah Stratton. Sally was hired to play an ingénue leading lady to the Hackmatack Playhouse, a summer theatre in Berwick, Maine.
5. All the letters Sally wrote to Linda and her stepfather Sam “were filled with news, overflowing with optimism of five plays that would begin in late June and end just after Labor Day.”
6. Sally returned to New York and took temporary residence with the family of Peter Miner, her former director at the Academy. “Linda’s royalties had not been paid, and Linda couldn’t assist Sally financially as she desired, which greatly distressed Linda.”
7. The police were called “on December 9, 1973, to an apartment because friends of Sally who had stopped by to visit Sally, and had noticed a peculiar and unpleasant odor emanating from Apartment 6 B.
8. Address where Sally’s supposed dead body was allegedly found in a dilapidated New York apartment: West 176th Street, Apartment 6 B, New York

Now starts the clues of a Mystery:

1. Police found the remains of a decomposed body of a young female. Nearby, was an 8 page handwritten note, dated December 4th, describing great depression. One autopsy stated death was six days ago. However, other forensic pathologists, after careful study of the autopsy report, later stated that a “partially mummified” body would have to have been dead for a minimum of 3-4 weeks.
2. The autopsy report further stated “that the girl (dead body recovered from the apartment) had drunk a vast quantity of liquor in hours prior to her death, though death itself, the report stated, was a result of a massive overdose of barbiturates. The official verdict: Suicide.”
3. December 10th, Sally’s birthday, “Sam Goodman was called to the morgue to identify the body as his stepdaughter, Sally Snyder. He was accompanied by Aaron Goldblatt, an old family friend. The body of the young lady was wrapped in a distinctive quilt-comforter, rose colored, which had been a gift to Sally from Linda. A powerful “non-verbal cue”, strictly forbidden by morgue regulations, though Sam had no way of knowing that at that time.” I don’t know about any of you, however, any time I’ve seen a body at the morgue they are on the pull out slab and if anything a white sheet over the face… not a blanket from the death scene! Sam was haunted by the vision he saw at the morgue. The young lady looked more like either a “West Indian woman” or “a young black woman” with dyed blonde hair. Then latter, one of the 3 police reports filed referred to the body removed from the apartment as that of a black female with red-gold hair!
4. December 21st… Sam returns to Sally’s apartment to gather her belongings (took Sam 10 days to obtain the keys to Sally’s apartment from the authorities). The visual of Sally’s apartment shocked Sam.. the police report had reported “neat, orderly rooms”…Sam witnessed “blood everywhere … crime investigator Cleve Backstar (experienced crime investigator, called the country’s foremost polygraph expert, and head of the Becker School of Lie Detection, formerly in New York) said at least 5-6 quarts of blood. The mattress was soaked in blood (bed horizontally placed against bed – see police report below)… the walls were spattered with it, there were large pools of sticky, not quite dried blood on the floor; and the telephone was coated in blood, to which a very large quantity of human hair and tissue adhered, as though the instrument had been used to bludgeon someone’s head. The fact that it was long, soft, blonde hair, approximately the same shade of Sally’s hair – to the naked eye – made it an anguishing sight for Sam (and equally so, later for Linda).” NOW listen to this! The original police report stated: “no blood, phone perfectly clean, bed in vertical position… quilt Sally was wrapped up in the morgue… was left on bed… police report stated body was placed in a morgue “body bag”.” I don’t know about all of you… but some FACTS just aren’t connecting!
5. Linda couldn’t dismiss all the inconsistencies! Could anyone dismiss these many different accounts? Also, Linda “had been searching for a very dear friend who had been missing since July 4th 1973, who had been on the boat Star Quest. Linda had alleged that her friend had been an innocent witness to some crime aboard the Star Quest that was connected with Watergate. Linda also alleged the Star Quest was a floating brothel onto which to lure political opponents, then tape and photograph them in compromising positions. Linda’s mind also streamed back to the several threats she’d received against her children’s lives while she was investigating the boat (Star Quest), the most recent threats having been made only a couple of weeks prior to the news that Sally “was dead”.” This is something Linda and I had in common… My mother’s life and my brother’s life were threatened when I was working in Washington, D.C. Linda and I knew many of the same people in the Washington area! Ironically, both Linda and I have our “Sun” located in our natal charts in the 12th House!
6. “Although Linda made repeated and insistent requests, Linda was not given a copy of the autopsy report until nearly four months after her first visit to the morgue.” When she finally received the final autopsy several facts stood out:
• The report stated the girl in the apartment had drunk herself into a stupor, then swallowed vast quantities of barbiturates (though independently retained forensic pathologists insisted the drugs had to have been injected!). Yet, no liquor, no syringes or needles, no pills, no glasses that might have held liquor, and no bottles of liquor, no bottles that might have held pills were found by the police in the apartment!! [It doesn’t take an Einstein moment to figure out.. how is someone suppose to write an eight page note.. and date the note (ha!)… drink herself stone drunk… taken vast quantities of barbiturates.. then what.. get rid of all the evidence and then die??] Question: if you had uncovered all these inconsistencies would you not be doubtful? There is more…..
• The autopsy described “the young girl as 5 foot 3 inches tall.. Weighing 130 lbs. with well developed breasts and moderately long hair – no scalp wounds or injuries” (who got hit by the phone??” For those of you who didn’t know Sally “her vital statistics taken from her medical records made shortly before she left for Berwick, Maine to act during the summer were: 5 foot 5 inches tall, 110 lbs. Small breast, and wore her naturally blonde hair cut short to her ear lobes, this is confirmed in photographs taken in October 1973, after the summer stock season.” There is still more….
• Police reports concerning removal of the body were conflicting! One police officer described a body “removed on the night of December 9, wearing two- pieced, red pajamas. The second police officer said “body as removed on the night of December 11th, dressed in a green print blouse with puffed sleeves. Then one of the physicians described the body being autopsied, on tape, as wearing a pink nightgown. So who was the body that left several pints of blood on the bed, walls… who was bludgeoned in the head with the telephone?? There is still more…
• The book at the morgue… “When Sam Goodman and Goldblatt approached the receptionist upon their arrival at the morgue, and informed the clerk they were there to identify Sally Synder, they were shown an entry book, and asked “Which Sally Synder?” The first entry: Sally Snyder – white female age 20.. West 176th then two lines below … the initial S. Synder – white female – age 21 – West 176th Street. “Sam and Aaron pointed to the first “Sally Synder” entry, puzzled, and said, “I guess that’s the one”, dazed and not knowing what to think at that point.” This entry book was seen and witnessed by 2 people a number of years later.
• Phone bill that came in after Sally’s death indicated that someone used the phone during the time after the police took the body out, and the time Sam Goodman entered the apartment. Did someone use “the blood and hair encrusted telephone to make 2 phone calls to 2 people in Berwick, Maine, both actors in the melodrama during the 1973 summer stock season” that Sally acted with. Why would calls to Sally’s friend in the summer theater occur from her apartment after her so called death? Still more…
• The blood on the bed and walls was tested… guess what NOT Sally’s blood type? Is this getting really weird by now?? “Professor Ray Neff, of Indiana State University (Toxicologist and recognized expert in pathology, from Indiana State University, formerly Coroner in New Jersey for many years) verified that the blood found in the apartment was not Sally’s blood type, and that the hair on the telephone was not Sally’s hair, compared with standards of childhood from her baby book.” Still more…
• Handwriting experts for the supposed 8 page suicide note Sally wrote… guess what…First part of the so called “suicide note and originals of letters written by Sally that summer of 1973 were said to be forgeries by one of the foremost Questioned Document experts in the country!” (Joseph Moomaw, of Colorado, a leading analyst of questioned documents for authenticity or forgery.) Oh, by the way… this suicide note disappeared from morgue files! Want more…
David Sikes (one time government agent and investigator for the Army’s Criminal Investigation Division, who taught the technique of Witness Recall to the FBI. Also, a former bodyguard of 3 Presidents and Henry Kissenger, “obtained many tapes and some signed statements on paper from the actors and actresses who performed at the Hackmatack Playhouse during the summer stock season of 1973. One discusses Sally being told “her mother (Linda) would be “killed” if Sally returned to New York. All kinds of testimony alleged that when the actors worked at Carleton Guptill many where believing and alleged that the crops were being sprayed with a variant of Agent Orange called C-300. This derivative was supposedly harmless to people, was supposedly beneficial to crops, supposedly enhanced their size and speed of growth, their quality and taste. The young performers at Berwick had a regular diet of these C-300 sprayed crops.” [Just FYI… Michael Guptill it was said was appointed by the Department of Agriculture Chief Inspector of all fruits and vegetables leaving the state of Maine.] OK.. now the biggest clue….
• “The day after a body was discovered on West 176th Street, “Sally Synder” was driven to Boston, where she checked into a hotel, stayed a few days, then disappeared. The man who drove Sally there is a nephew of Watergate plumber, Martinez. He showed one of the investigators his phone bill to verify his claim that he had received a collect call from Sally from Boston AFTER the police removed the first body from her apartment!” Might want to read that paragraph again! Ok… now ready to go to Sally might still be a live clue’s….
• Linda hired Daniel Hollman (former United States Attorney, who set up for the Justice Department the New York Organized Crime Strike Force and the Government Witness Relocation Program, who worked with James Steinberg on various occasions in connection with these) & Matthew Byrne (legal counsel to the New York Police Department at the time of Sally’s disappearance and Hollman’s law partner) to research Sally’s alleged death! Are you ready? When Hollman and Byrne made a search for the file on Sally, which police witnesses declared in written statements was “more than five inches thick”, it had MYSTERIOUSLY VANISHED FROM THE DA’S OFFICE!” Ok… I’ll wait and let you re-read that sentence! Yeah, the entire file had mysteriously vanished from the DA’s office. Ok, moving right along… “Later, that same former assistant district attorney, out of office, and then in private practice in New Jersey, contacted Linda, told her he believed all she was saying, and offered his help in locating the missing Sally.” Yeah.. that’s right he wanted to help Linda find her daughter Sally! How rich is that one. “He said he would be in touch with her after he returned from a trip to Tuscon, Arizona”. (I know the spelling on Tuscon look strange, however, it’s the exact spelling in Linda’s Outline of Projected Book. ) He did not contact Linda again. More….
• “In the Spring of 1980, Linda and her investigators received a TIP that Sally was living in Tuscon, Arizona, working in a government underwritten greenhouse, where it was alleged she had undergone a nervous breakdown and had been taken to the University of Arizona hospital. When Linda and her investigators arrived several people of credibility recognized and infallibly identified photo’s of Sally, and it was learned she’d been living under a different name, in a run down house on the edge of Tuscon, with SEVERAL former students of the American Academy of Dramatic Arts!”

The photo I’m sharing with this loving forum to “Linda’s Life” was given to me from Linda Goodman herself. I took this photo to a radionics specialist to determine if Sally was still alive in 1993… upon Linda’s request! The results were that Sally’s energies were no longer on the planet……………….. Believe what you may… you’re all entitled to your free will choices… I’m just sharing from Linda’s “Outline of her Projected Book, entitled: SPIDER LINE, Linda Goodman’s Search for Sally”.

UPDATE:
Was asked a question the other day... the photo of Sally and Linda's birth chart are now appearing on other internet sites... which site did I post them on FIRST... it was this site... Linda-Goodman.com ... if the photo or Linda's chart appears on other sites... then they obtained the information from here. Hope that clears up the confusion.

IP: Logged

noreenz
unregistered
posted October 28, 2007 12:05 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you BIBI!

Thor-got message and thank you!...I'm outta town at soccer tourney, will read and reply more later.....

IP: Logged

Eleanore
Knowflake

Posts: 112
From: Okinawa, Japan
Registered: Apr 2009

posted October 28, 2007 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh my, this is just heartbreaking. I really hope that if Sally is still alive that she is safe and well. And if she has indeed passed over, that she and Linda are able to reconnect and heal together. LOVE is so strong and I'm always amazed at just how much LOVE Linda had in her to write and do all the many wonderful things she did, and to still be able to help so many others even though her life could be so challenging. She faced a mother's worst nightmare with so much strength and courage. She'll always be one of my biggest heroes. I'm all choked up and don't know what else to say. Thank you for sharing this, BiBi DeAngelo.

IP: Logged

ListensToTrees
unregistered
posted October 28, 2007 07:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This topic fascinates me profoundly. I can't thank you enough, Bibi, for sharing.

My reaction to the information:


Linda was no fool!

There was definitely a conspiracy in all of this. A mother's instincts are best. Sally had no reason to take her own life. There is too much information to say otherwise. There are just too many facts to say that something was definitely not right! Lies, lies, lies.......

Whether Sally is alive or she has passed over (I think she may have passed after the set-up took place)......it just goes to show even further evidence of the extent of the corruption in the government.


Just look at the picture!
Look at Sally's eyes! She has her mother's eyes.

Looking at the picture.....there is just something very magical about Sally.

A special soul, an unfortunate series of events.

I feel they are more at peace now.

IP: Logged

silverstone
unregistered
posted October 28, 2007 03:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Bibi...

This is great!

Silverstone

------------------
Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year....
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark, and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost

IP: Logged

silverstone
unregistered
posted October 28, 2007 03:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BiBi... somewhere down the line are you also going to share with us excerpts from Twelfth Night Secrets? I do hope you do!

Cheers...
Silverstone

------------------
Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year....
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark, and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost

IP: Logged

ListensToTrees
unregistered
posted October 30, 2007 08:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bibi, just out of curiosity would it be ok to see Sally's chart? If you tell me the birth data I can take a look on astro.com.

Love.

IP: Logged

BiBi DeAngelo
Knowflake

Posts: 923
From: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Registered: Apr 2009

posted October 30, 2007 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BiBi DeAngelo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The date for Sally's birthday ... Dec 10, 1953...

I'll put a question to her brother Michael and see if he knows Sally's time of birth and place... I have most of that stuff in boxes in storage.. Get back to you with any information that Michael has...

latter, BiBi

IP: Logged

ListensToTrees
unregistered
posted October 30, 2007 07:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bibi, you are so kind.

------------------
If only we could feel and understand all each others feelings....then EMPATHY and LOVE would be law in itself.

IP: Logged

BiBi DeAngelo
Knowflake

Posts: 923
From: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Registered: Apr 2009

posted October 31, 2007 02:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BiBi DeAngelo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To:
Noreenz
Eleanore
Listens to Trees
& Silverstone....
you are all very welcome... glad my sharing brought appreciation in your heart...

Putting all this together for you... Linda's fans... has been an emotional journey...

it's one thing to mourn a friends passing...

it's another to mourn the dreams of their future... that weren't fulfilled...

and top that off with the mourning of the dreams of the future you were hoping to share with them....

putting all the posting's together, for you all, has brought that mourning back into my heart... so to feel this mourning in my heart & mind, and even shedding many a tear these last couple of weeks... it is especially wonderful to hear that all these postings have brought you all a feeling of great appreciation... you're welcome.. and thank you for posting your thoughts... reading them was like medicine to my soul...

IP: Logged

BiBi DeAngelo
Knowflake

Posts: 923
From: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Registered: Apr 2009

posted November 03, 2007 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BiBi DeAngelo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Silverstone:

yes, there does seem to have been a manuscript of some length (finalized??? so many pages in length???)... named Twelfth Night Secret...

another member of this forum has emailed me privately.. and I'm on the mission to ascertain more definitive information on this... so you'll all have to be patient... I've got so much information in boxes... and I'm making calls to those who worked on projects with myself and Linda... so a search is on for more information... all I can say at this point... hope that helps..

IP: Logged

silverstone
unregistered
posted November 04, 2007 01:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WOW... Thanks Bibi for replying. That's great news.

I hope you are having a great weekend,
Silverstone

------------------
Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year....
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark, and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost

IP: Logged

BiBi DeAngelo
Knowflake

Posts: 923
From: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Registered: Apr 2009

posted November 11, 2007 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BiBi DeAngelo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Thank you!

IP: Logged

BiBi DeAngelo
Knowflake

Posts: 923
From: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Registered: Apr 2009

posted November 16, 2007 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BiBi DeAngelo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Silverstone.. sent you a personal email.. go see!

IP: Logged

ListensToTrees
unregistered
posted November 17, 2007 11:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
e

IP: Logged

silverstone
unregistered
posted November 17, 2007 11:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bibi

Congratulations on your new project, it looks so interesting!

Cheers,
Silverstone

------------------
Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year....
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark, and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost

IP: Logged

BiBi DeAngelo
Knowflake

Posts: 923
From: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Registered: Apr 2009

posted November 17, 2007 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BiBi DeAngelo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Silverstone... wish Linda could be here to see it... she stirred my heart so much about being open minded to these kinds of things... reading Star Signs and all....

IP: Logged

BiBi DeAngelo
Knowflake

Posts: 923
From: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Registered: Apr 2009

posted November 19, 2007 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BiBi DeAngelo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Sally appeared at the Hackmatack Playhouse, here are some links to learn:
http://www.hackmatack.org/
http://www.hackmatack.org/about.htm
http://mainearts.maine.gov/directory/listing.asp?ID=423&name=Hackmatack%20Playhouse


IP: Logged

BiBi DeAngelo
Knowflake

Posts: 923
From: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Registered: Apr 2009

posted November 23, 2007 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BiBi DeAngelo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone else wanting to share other facts and information regarding Sally... please do so... I'm going to search for other information and make this thread a tribute to Sally....
thanks!

IP: Logged

BiBi DeAngelo
Knowflake

Posts: 923
From: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Registered: Apr 2009

posted November 23, 2007 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BiBi DeAngelo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Following information brought to this thread from: Linda Life…Questions regarding Prayers for Sally (thread started July 21, 2003).

At the beginning of Love Signs, Linda says that she and Michael placed some roses for Sally under a statue at St Patrick's Cathedral in Manhattan, which "miraclized". (Miracalized roses meant that after they had left them at the statue, they never just died or turned black, they simply dried and maintained their vibrant red color, and stayed intact without crumbling... roses that maintained their beauty.) The statue of Saint Francis of Assisi. St Francis is the patron saint of those who work with animals especially animal welfare groups and environmental groups. With her strong support of Greenpeace, he was the perfect saint for Linda.

IP: Logged

BiBi DeAngelo
Knowflake

Posts: 923
From: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Registered: Apr 2009

posted November 23, 2007 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BiBi DeAngelo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
American Academy of Dramatic Arts… website information can be
Accessed by the 2 following links:
http://www.aada.org/html/history/index.html
http://www.aada.org/html/main.html

Even though Sally Stratton (Sally Synder’s stage name) isn’t found on the partial list
of alumni it is an interesting visit to learn the caliber of talent that graduated from the same school Sally graduated from.

IP: Logged

BiBi DeAngelo
Knowflake

Posts: 923
From: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Registered: Apr 2009

posted November 23, 2007 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BiBi DeAngelo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
More information on the quote contained above:

quote:
The blood on the bed and walls was tested… guess what NOT Sally’s blood type? Is this getting really weird by now?? “Professor Ray Neff, of Indiana State University (Toxicologist and recognized expert in pathology, from Indiana State University, formerly Coroner in New Jersey for many years) verified that the blood found in the apartment was not Sally’s blood type, and that the hair on the telephone was not Sally’s hair, compared with standards of childhood from her baby book.” Still more…

Additional Information: On Ray Neff – Part One

Ray Neff
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Dr. Ray Neff a retired health sciences professor at Indiana State University with a chemistry background is a leading proponent of an alternative history theory about the assassination of Abraham Lincoln and his killer John Wilkes Booth.
Neff is the co-author of Dark Union along with Leonard Guttridge. The book proposes an alternative view to the conventional version of Lincoln's assassination. While it mentions the theory that Secretary of War Edwin M. Stanton was involved in the assassination conspiracy, the book dismisses it and suggests that John Wilkes Booth took on the role of assassin largely for personal reasons. Dark Union also contends that Booth escaped, eventually settling in India, as it was James W. Boyd who was actually shot in the barn at Garrett's farm. Indiana State University houses a collection of materials, some of which has been digitized and been made available for online viewing. This theory is in marked contrast with the version of the assassination proposed by Edward Steers, Jr.
Neff is also one of many historians who traces the roots of Lincoln's assassination to the Dahlgren Affair - one of very few areas where he and Steers agree.
• Neff-Guttridge Collection of Lincoln assassination and related materials at Indiana State University
http://www.shout.net/~bigred/Neff.htm

end of Part One – proceed to Part Two

IP: Logged

BiBi DeAngelo
Knowflake

Posts: 923
From: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Registered: Apr 2009

posted November 23, 2007 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BiBi DeAngelo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Part Two…additional Info on Ray Neff

Ray Neff Discovers Coded Messages
(Conspiracy Nation, 4/15/02) -- In 1863, Colonel Lafayette C. Baker (later promoted to Brigadier General) was in charge of Union counter-intelligence, heading the National Detective Bureau. In 1866, when President Andrew Johnson discovered that Baker's Detective Bureau had the White House under surveillance, Baker was dismissed. Baker feared (with good reason) for his life, and died under suspicious circumstances in 1868. (Details are in Anatomy of an Assassination by John Cottrell. New York: Funk & Wagnalls, 1966.) An inventory of Baker's possessions showed he owned bound volumes of "Colburn's U.S. Magazine" for the years 1860 to 1865 -- with one exception: the volume for the first half of 1864 is not listed in the inventory. Read on, for why that is important.
Documented in Cottrell's book is the following sworn testimony by one William Carter, who knew Baker and visited him a few days before his death:
[Baker] did say some things which made me wonder. When I came into the room he had a stack of books by his bed and he had one open and was making marks in it. I asked him what he was doing and he said, "I'm writing my memoirs." I asked him [again,] to make sure that I had heard him right and he said it over again. Then I said, "But, General, them books is already wrote." And he said, "Right, they are going to have to get up early to get ahead of old Lafe Baker." And then he laughed. I picked up one of the books and looked at it, and I saw that he was writing cipher in it.
Please note that when Ray Neff, a research chemist, came across a bound volume of "Colburn's U.S. Magazine" at a used bookstore 92-years after Abraham Lincoln's assassination, none of the information in the preceding paragraphs had yet come to light.
The bound volume of Colburn's magazine which Neff chanced upon was for the latter half of 1864. Note that, as mentioned, Baker's inventory shows that he lacked the bound volume for the first half of 1864.
Months after purchasing the volume, Neff was idly thumbing through it. He noticed a series of numbers and letters written in the margin. Mr. Leonard Fousche (a professional cryptographer) and Neff's wife helped him decipher the messages.
Ray Neff noticed that the bound volume was discolored in several places. After spreading tannic acid over one of these, it revealed a signature; Baker had apparently used some sort of "invisible ink" method to conceal his name, "L.C. Baker." A handwriting expert later declared the signature to be genuine.
Here is what the de-ciphered messages said:
I am constantly being followed. They are professionals. I cannot fool them. In new Rome there walked three men, a Judas, a Brutus and a spy. Each planned that he should be the king when Abraham should die. One trusted not the other but they went on for that day, waiting for that final moment when, with pistol in his hand, one of the sons of Brutus could sneak behind that cursed man and put a bullet in his brain and lay his clumsey [sic] corpse away. As the fallen man lay dying, Judas came and paid respects to one he hated, and when at last he saw him die, he said, "Now the ages have him and the nation now have I." But, alas, fate would have it Judas slowly fell from grace, and with him went Brutus down to their proper place. But lest one is left to wonder what happened to the spy, I can safely tell you this, it was I.
End of Part Two... proceed to Part Three

IP: Logged

BiBi DeAngelo
Knowflake

Posts: 923
From: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Registered: Apr 2009

posted November 23, 2007 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BiBi DeAngelo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Part Three of additional Information on Ray Neff

It was on the tenth of April, sixty-five, when I first knew that the plan was in action. Ecert [Major Thomas T. Eckert, in charge of military telegraph headquarters at the War Department] had made all the contacts, the deed to be done on the fourteenth. I did not know the identity of the assassin, but I knew most all else when I approached E.S. [Edwin M. Stanton, Lincoln's Secretary of War] about it. He at once acted surprised and disbelieving. Later he said: "You are a party to it too. Let us wait and see what comes of it and then we will know better how to act in the matter." I soon discovered what he meant that I was a party to it when the following day I was shown a document that I knew to be a forgery but a clever one, which made it appear that I had been in charge of a plot to kidnap the President, the Vice-President being the instigator. Then I became a party to that deed even though I did not care to.
On the thirteenth he discovered that the President had ordered that the Legislature of Virginia be allowed to assemble to withdraw that state's troops from action against the U.S. He [Stanton] fermented immediately into an insane tyrade [sic]. Then for the first time I realised his mental disunity and his insane and fanatical hatred for the President. There are few in the War Department that respect the President or his strategy, but there are not many who would countermand an order that the President had given. However, during that insane moment, he sent a telegram to Gen. Weitzel countermanding the President's order of the twelfth. Then he laughed in a most spine chilling manner and said: "If he would to know who recinded [sic] his order we will let Lucifer tell him. Be off, Tom, and see to the arrangements. There can be no mistakes." This is the first that I knew that he was the one responsible for the assassination plot. Always before I thought that either he did not trust me, for he really trusted no one, or he was protecting someone until it was to his benefit to expose them. But now I know the truth and it frightens me no end. I fear that somehow I may become the sacrificial goat.
There were at least eleven members of Congress involved in the plot, no less than twelve Army officers, three Naval officers and at least twenty four civilians, of which one was a governor of a loyal state. Five were bankers of great repute, three were nationally known newspapermen and eleven were industrialists of great repute and wealth. There were probably more that I know nothing of.
The names of these known conspirators is presented without comment or notation in Vol one of this series. Eighty-five thousand dollars was contributed by the named persons to pay for the deed. Only eight persons knew the details of the plot and the identity of the others. I fear for my life, L.C.B. [Lafayette C. Baker]

End of Part Three...... Proceed to Part Four

IP: Logged

BiBi DeAngelo
Knowflake

Posts: 923
From: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Registered: Apr 2009

posted November 23, 2007 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BiBi DeAngelo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Part Four of additional information on Ray Neff……
Ray Neff had come across the volume from the latter half of 1864. De-ciphering Baker's message, it's learned that the names of the members of Congress, military officers, bankers, newspapermen and others could be found in Volume One. But as pointed out at the beginning of this issue of Conspiracy Nation, when Baker had died an inventory of his possessions showed that particular volume to be missing.
Conspiracy Nation. Now read in all 50 states. http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html


Additional Links:
http://www.amazon.com/Valley-Shadow-Ray-Neff/dp/094466900X
http://www.dualj.org/bookstore/item_details.aspx?ItemID=0471264814

End of Part Four


IP: Logged


This topic is 7 pages long:   1  2  3  4  5  6  7 

All times are Eastern Standard Time

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:

Contact Us | Linda-Goodman.com

Copyright 2000-2017

Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com © 2000
Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a