posted June 04, 2015 12:20 AM            

I recall going through a brief very sensitive period of time in my life where I didn't even want to 'trample on a blade of grass' for fear of hurting or bending it.

I had heard of experiments where people were hooking up electrodes to plants and jello, and that if you were to steam a batch of clams near them on your stove, the plants and jello showed signs that they could 'hear' the clams screaming.

There's a point where enough becomes enough, and you have to decide where to draw your own boundary lines when it comes to your own physical health requirements, safety, and survival.

Being on a prolonged vegetarian diet didn't prove to be healthy for me one bit. I'm a certain blood-type that seems to require the eating some kind of meat in order to be at better and fuller vitality. It's very grounding for me to have meat in my diet, but I bless the animal (and God) who provided... Some people just need that kind of anchoring, I suppose.

So yes, if ALL things have some kind of 'aliveness' to them, then we stay grateful and mindful of this during the moments of our days... Handling the 'metal beings' and the 'wooden beings' we have in our kitchens, which help us make our daily food, so that we can live and serve upon this earth, while being grateful and enjoying the life we've been given, appreciating all that has been provided to us through them, and through Grace in our lives.

Even St Therese Neumann, even though she went through periods of time of not eating, took in a holy communion wafer each day.

posted June 06, 2015 06:01 AM            

I don't believe that.

Pain of any kind-- it isn't relative.

Otherwise, we-- and the animal kingdom-- would not

be hardwired to avoid it.

posted June 14, 2015 05:14 PM            

Even if it were true (I'm not sure) that the baby's pain didn't count in its formation when it is that young, I can tell you right now that I felt and registered their reactions! I felt helpless for them.

posted June 15, 2015 12:10 PM            

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Originally posted by MAKLHOUF:
I often wonder whether anaesthesia actually removes pain or whether we feel the pain but just don't remember.

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MAK!!!!!! {{ }} That is EXACTLY one of the deepest fundamental questions I have about Medicine and the brain. They give drugs called 'dissociative' drugs now during medical procedures to 'spare you' from "remembering" the live-torture you JUST went through at the hands of callous medical secret-sadists?

(Of course, I'm speaking in a poetic sense, in a way. Yet, seriously based-upon past-experiences AS A CHILD. Coincidently, I've having my asteroid Child Scorpio H12 RETURN!! O yikes.)

I had tonsils & adenoids removed when I was 4 years 2 months+ years old. (Aug 1959)

I became "aware" during the surgery.

I "saw" my body on the table, and the metal-contraption set in my mouth, while I was floating behind the doctor's right shoulder. ... Then he 'moved' and it blocked me from continuing to see what he was doing.

Then I "felt" as though someone had "bloody-punched me in the nose." It hurt soooo bad! I *remember* the pain, MAK.... It still upsets me.

I recall the 'helplessness' of being 'at the mercy' of someone-else's hands and NOT being able to do ANYTHING about the 'pain' I was feeling....

So, I have this really morbid fear now of anaesthesia as an adult. (And I had ONE other super-painful BAD experience 'being put under' from ~Feb 2003). Could this 'bad experience' being 'put out' have been a vestige from something that transpired originally when I was a child of 4 years old?

There was another medical procedure they did on me when I was 5 years old. The medical people 'acted' as though I didn't understand what they said (like I was a carcass), nor that I could 'hear' what they said in their conversations around me.

.... I remember SCARY SCARY machines!! I thought I was going to be crushed-to-death! And throughout the ENTIRE procedure I not only had to deal with 'what's going on outside of me' but also INWARDLY because I absolutely felt *horrible* in my guts throughout the time of the procedure.

I recall one technician or nurse-or-someone saying compassionately that they felt terrible having to use Adult-size equipment on such a small body.

"Someone" who was supposed to set-up the procedure didn't Care, I guess. They didn't "care" to make sure that my body stayed as comfortable as it could be through something really hard to go through. NOR did they consider that I was psychologically going through something I did NOT understand. I did NOT feel 'accompanied' through the process that had to be done. I was ALONE, and a CARCASS.

It wasn't "convenient" for them to have provided what *I/my body* and my mental-being would need to survive it better.

I was to them "a piece of meat" lying there on the table, which they performed their task on. There was NO regarding that there was 'an Aware Child' subjected to and at the mercy of their deliberate tortures.

There was NOTHING I could do to save myself, nor anyone I could TELL who would understand what I was saying to them and to comfort me. Maybe other kids or people didn't 'need' that? Perhaps I was a freak and simply not 'like' everyone else?

These are some of the things that have had an underlying underpinning impact on my life as a completing forming whole. It's a pit in place for me.

It's like I've had to frantically hide-hide-hide-hide and duck for cover at things in the environment, and when the cover is ripped open there's a terrible surgical-light glaring in my face and eyes... and something terrible is about to happen because I stand there in its light.

Heh-heh.... Welcome to Saturn back into Scorpio, eh?! Having a body sucks when you can't control the circumstances--- Is there a way that I can be turned into only a cloud-etheric, WITHOUT the pain of having or needing to rely on outside-people 'who don't get it'? ... extrapolations.

Maybe that's a Quest'ion that never finds its True solutions as long as I'm trapped in a body on this earth.

(I hope this vid has 'good sound'... my sound-cancellation headphones broke a few days ago. I'm back to using my $5 earbuds here.)

posted June 19, 2015 04:06 PM            

Thanks for the feedback, Mak! So sorry to hear you are subject to getting migraines. Not-fun. Glad the meds take care of it. yay!

Strong coffee, acetaminophen, avoiding certain foods-smells, getting adequate fresh air, rest and good-night's sleep is my self-remedy.

Would be soooo 'convenient' to be able to just take a pill. I get too many side-effects to drugs, so I was forced into becoming a minimalist there....

Dose of synthroid(hormone), and 'the purple-pill'(stomach) and that be IT for me! (Less is best here.)

I'm starting to be able to re-adjust my listening (but miss those nuances). It's like having had an HDcolor-tv vision, that is now back into using shades of grey (B/W).

I remember a time of watching Star Trek in black and white in my younger years. My uncle had just bought a new color-TV set, and all the families came over to see the first broadcast of Star Trek in color.

My little nit-detail persnickety Virgo Moon at the time said, Oh no no no! They didn't get the colors right!!!! I had no 'pleasure' in it till I was able to adjust to *their* color choices.

My inner-world had a whole different sense of colors perceived. Black and white TV sets may sound dull and restrictive (and I DO like HD Color), but when you take time to think about it, black and white actually gave a person more liberty to paint with the subconscious pallet of one's Imagination.

posted June 20, 2015 03:52 AM            

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posted June 20, 2015 12:13 PM            

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Originally posted by MAKLHOUF:
I often wonder whether anaesthesia actually removes pain or whether we feel the pain but just don't remember.

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If it is anything like pain medication (of the

opiate variety), then you are probably aware of

the pain-- it just doesn't bother you.

Not even remotely.

Which is fascinating, imo, if not miraculous.

Oddly, it does the same for emotional pain, as well.

(And that is where we get into trouble.. lol)

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