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Shulia
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posted September 29, 2019 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shulia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a big question about death.

So acording to Linda and other books I read about immortality, we are meant to be immortal but we are mentally programmed to create our own death, and we unconsiouly choose to die.

So then all deads are instrinsically suicides

She says we have the right to die, to renew our body and life, if we want.

So then why would people who comit suicide be doing a bad thing or a ' sin' ?

I mean lets say someone doesnt wanna live anymore,creates a cancer, wishes to die and dies.

Another persom just consciously kill himself. What is the diference?

they both choose to die.

Why would one soul be punished , or have terrible karmic consequences, and the other one not? All spiritual traditions warn about the horrible consequences of suicide. I wonder why.

There most be a reason if everynody says the same. Sometimes that doesnt mean its true thou. But I wanna find the truth.

One explanation would be that maybe you wanna die, but if you have something crucial to learn on earth in this encarnarion , you wont die till you learn that.

So by destroying your body slowly with your beliefs, you at least leave some space for that.

And by comiting suicide you just finish on your own and maybe there was some purpose or lessons which had to be done in this liftime before you go.

Otherwise I don't see the diference.

My platonic love from Highschool comited suicide. He was a very spiritual person extremelly sensitive.

Somehow he found the beauty of life, and still nobody can understand why he did that.
But his soul was for sure in a high place.

It wont make sense to punish that pure soul who was just so lost and sad.


I am just wonderimg what is the diference between what he did, and a normal dead if both as selfcreated anyway.


And what about children? They for sure don't die because they want to. What is the reason behind it? It was their choise to cone to earth for a few time and they planned that already before being born?

Also if I am immortal and I choose to go, what will I do, Wait to get old?

I feel maybe if someone is immortal they can just leave the body throught transfiguration, instead of dying.
Could it be like that?

I need some immortal people encouragment on my way to immortality,.and some answers.


thanks on advanced if you read that!

Blessings for all

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ballerina
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posted September 29, 2019 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ballerina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you decide to bow out early,
suicide, you simply come back
to finish what was not achieved.
There is no punishment..
It's always been our free wi11
choice to decide what we shall
do..
We are all born with the same
gifts, and it's always our choice...

Be good..do good...
Or not

Positive leads to mastership
and immortality.

Negative leads to the opposite.

Our choice!

I hope what I wrote helps

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All my love, with all my Heart
lotusheartone/Emeraldopal

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Shulia
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posted September 30, 2019 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shulia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks ballerina for your answer!
I dnt know why I am not receiving email notifications anymore when someone answers.

What you say makes sense to me.
I just wonder then why there is this big big warning against suicide in all spiritual traditions and religions.
Where does it comes from?

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posted September 30, 2019 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ballerina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's all about breeding FEAR in
us...the wrath of God...

That is not the God I know..
We get what we give
we reap what we sow
It's all very simple!

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Randall
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posted September 30, 2019 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Belief in the inevitability of death brings death. The cause of death is what we attract by our thoughts, but it isn't attracted intentionally.

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Shulia
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posted October 02, 2019 05:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shulia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes Randall its atracted unintentioanlly but its atracted anyway... you think that makes a diference in the karma created?

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posted October 02, 2019 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do think intent matters.

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Shulia
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posted October 03, 2019 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shulia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes intent makes a huge diference in karma stuff.
Like is not the same killing by accident than killing intentionally out of hate.

But about your own life... why would it matter if you intentionally decide you can't take it anymore? Linda said we have the right to die and we can decide to die.

If you kmow about immortality but you decide to die then it may be the same than killing yourself.

if you do it in a way which seems an accident so your family doesnt have to suffer or feel guilty then I dnt see why would it matter.
but still something tells me its not a good idea.

Maybe because you do it out of pain, and then your soul is trapped in a pain vibration and cant cross. But well same with normal dead.

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Shulia
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posted October 03, 2019 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shulia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes intent makes a huge diference in karma stuff.
Like is not the same killing by accident than killing intentionally out of hate.

But about your own life... why would it matter if you intentionally decide you can't take it anymore? Linda said we have the right to die and we can decide to die.

If you kmow about immortality but you decide to die then it may be the same than killing yourself.

if you do it in a way which seems an accident so your family doesnt have to suffer or feel guilty then I dnt see why would it matter.
but still something tells me its not a good idea.

Maybe because you do it out of pain, and then your soul is trapped in a pain vibration and cant cross. But well same with normal dead.

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posted October 03, 2019 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Linda said each and every death is a suicide, because on some level we attract all experiences, including our deaths. However, it's different to actually consciously and directly commit suicide. As you get further along in Gooberz, this will make mores sense. Linda once thought of committing suicide. You'll read about it in Gooberz.

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posted October 04, 2019 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I committed suicide in my most recent life. I had a past life regression done and after my death, I remember floating until I was pulled into a purple light. There were others there and we communicated telepathically. I remember hearing (it's more like a knowing because there weren't any voices) that I had completed my mission. I was supposed to lead a life that was so bad I ended it myself. I can't say that every soul has to live a life that takes such a drastic tole on you that you kill yourself but, in my case I did. I know the lessons of that life though and it's pretty bizarre that in this one, my body seems to remember too. Sometimes I have severe neck pains where the skull meets my neck and I also have a tendon disorder (I hung myself). My thoughts about suicide are just like any other life or death, it's their own lessons they have to learn no matter how much we do or don't understand. I just try my best to help every single person who I cross paths with.

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posted October 05, 2019 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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