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Topic: Image-Ordain-Manifest
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AquaVenus
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posted January 17, 2004 02:02 PM
 
I'd just like to know if anyone out there has any interesting instances to relate regarding the Image-Ordain-Manifest formula.IP: Logged |
juniperb
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posted January 17, 2004 03:17 PM
Welcome again AquaVenus  I`m sure some one will have a story or two to share..... Do you have one to share with us?  juniperb  ------------------
If having a soul means being able to feel love and loyalty and gratitude, then animals are better off than a lot of humans. ~James Herriot IP: Logged |
AquaVenus
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posted January 20, 2004 09:57 AM
I have stories,but I'm a little cold-footed about sharing them. I wonder often if it is wise to draw public attention to this particular faculty.I worry about it falling into the wrong hands...I'm not entirely sure whose hands these are,but I've got a strong notion they're out there.Call me paranoid. Another thing:We are a select group(excuse the elitism). I wonder if it might be to our benifet to keep our knowledge and the powers confered by it within our circle.We don't want too many hands in the pot after all. What do you think? IP: Logged |
juniperb
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posted January 20, 2004 10:35 AM
Isn`t wisdom or enlightenment like love? Ment to be given freely and without expectation.... I personally don`t believe there are wrong hands in this sharing. There may be detractors or mischief makers but both parties would learn something of value. juniperb ------------------
If having a soul means being able to feel love and loyalty and gratitude, then animals are better off than a lot of humans. ~James Herriot IP: Logged |
Aphrodite
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posted January 20, 2004 10:37 AM
According to Linda, the birth numbers 10 and 19 have the power to Image, Ordain and Manifest.I think the level of secularity depends on a lot of factors. From what I read so far in The Kybalion, the ones who can manifest events, like earthquakes, keep a humble and low profile. Sometimes I wonder about the intention of questioners, and the relevance it has on their abilities to intuit and figure out codes. May be I am way out there, but I think for those who pursue out of greed or pride, the keys will always prove to be elusive.   IP: Logged |
AquaVenus
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posted January 20, 2004 10:54 AM
And then nobody ever thought splitting the atom would create the threat of nuclear holocaust.I'm sensing a dash of Utopianism here and that can be a very dangerous delusion.I'm not suggesting we band together and plot global domination,but don't you sort of enjoy the exclusivity,the seperation from the rabble?IP: Logged |
Aphrodite
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posted January 20, 2004 11:19 AM
And who is this, "we"?Just teasing  I forgot to say: Welcome  IP: Logged |
trillian
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posted January 20, 2004 01:02 PM
I'm not a fan of elitism of any sort. Smacks too much of religion, and secret societies. It's ugly, and devalues others. If someone wants a certain brand of esoteric knowledge, he will find it. What rabble? Who of us is any better than anyone else?? Good Goddess, we are all one, a piece of a part of a whole. Elitism, in my book, is just as ugly as what we might perceive to be greed or avarice.
Judge not lest ye be judged, right?
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trillian
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posted January 20, 2004 01:05 PM
One more thought...as far as Image Ordain Manifest...eacb of us does it to some degree every moment of our lives.And if not always consciously, there are many who are unafraid to share their knowledge in many books.
Sorry, but it just doesn't seem to be in keeping with the spirit of Linda to infer being any sort of elitist society.
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AquaVenus
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posted January 20, 2004 03:29 PM
I believe we're all permitted to think freely.I'm not an idol worshiper.To be honest, Linda Goodman does not play a critical role in this area of my life anymore.Yes, Star Signs is a very valuable resource,but all esoteric affairs do not begin and end with it or with Linda......And back to the topic:Any Image-Ordain-Manifest experiences to share?IP: Logged |
lioneye68
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Registered: Apr 2003
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posted January 20, 2004 03:49 PM
Carefull...have you noticed the name of this website???*I* for one, am not at all familier with the term you're using here. Does that mean I'm not worthy to know? Doesn't the fact that I'm seeking truth, and have now consequently stumbled upon this "image-ordain-manifest" concept entitle me to know more about it, if I desire to? How did YOU hear about it? How do you know you're worthy? IP: Logged |
juniperb
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posted January 20, 2004 04:53 PM
Amen/Awomen Aphrodite. To use any knowledge for ego purposes fails and one reaps what they sow. While I don`t suppose I could Manifest (yet ) a rosebush to instantly appear in a lobby in downtown Philly, I k-now the ability is there if I was to harnass it. The Divine gave ALL, not some the natural ability to Image-Ordain-Manifest.  Nothing elitist about it at all! So, no we nor any other communities seeking knowledge is elitest in any way. It`s for the mass`s juniperb ------------------
If having a soul means being able to feel love and loyalty and gratitude, then animals are better off than a lot of humans. ~James Herriot IP: Logged |
trillian
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posted January 21, 2004 01:39 PM
OK, one mundane story...At our company Christmas party, everyone is eligible to win prizes, both employees and their guests. One of the grand prizes was a brand new microwave, really nice model, and I'd been wanting a new one. At prize time, I declared to my dinner-table-mates "I want to win the microwave!" No one else at my table seemed interested in it. My 17 year old nephew and his date sat next to me; he said if he won, he'd give it to me as he had no use for the microwave. About 40-50 names were drawn for prizes. During the entire time, I sat rubbing a spoon, repeating over and over "give trillian the microwave." Mostly I repeated it to myself, but now and then, to the amusement of my table, I said it out loud (they expect such odd behavior from me!). Oh some of them teased me, but I wouldn't break my concentration! Finally...time to draw for the microwave. 1st name drawn was someone who had already won a prize, my heart fell, but he was then disqualified.
Next name...my 17 year old nephew!! So I now have a new microwave, and winning it was cool, because not only did the universe give me a gift, she also gave my nephew an opportunity to give.  OK, so I didn't stop the Iraq war, I didn't manifest a rose bush for juniperb , but I did image-ordain-manifest, no formula necessary. IP: Logged |
AquaVenus
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posted January 22, 2004 02:51 PM
Funny all this talk of manifesting rose bushes-that's exactly what the protagonist in an H.G Wells story does when he aquires the power to make miracles.But anyway the story isn't any good,so don't rush to the library or anything. Trillion's story wasn't too bad,but it's nothing much to hang one's hat on.Technically,it could easily have been nothing more than chance at work there.No discredit to trillion of course. I feel I should let you all know that I used to be very idealistic about this stuff,but a while back,due to some profound experiences and new ways of thinking,I've taken a new direction.I hope my honesty won't incur too much hostility from my fellow knowflakes,but I want to say that I don't believe in divinity of any kind or in any doctrine of right and wrong.It seems a lot of you are adhering to Linda's moral philosophy which I find rather inane and unfounded.But to each his own of course. As for the lack of stories coming forth,I can only assume one of two things:Either most of us,myself included,are holding out,or not many knowflakes are "walking the walk".This last possibility underscores my suspicion that if they did indeed experience the Image-Ordain-Manifest phenomenon for and of themselves,they might freak out and take up with me in my opinion that this might all be better kept in the possession of the few. IP: Logged |
lioneye68
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posted January 22, 2004 03:32 PM
Are you saying that it's ok to do hurtful things to each other, because there is no such thing as right or wrong?Having morals is inane? So, if we eliminate the concept of "right" and "wrong", or "good" and "evil", then what does it matter who uses the forces of 'image-ordain-manifest'? Every man, woman and child for themselves, right? If my next-door neighbor decides to use it to will my house to burn down, with me and my daughter sleeping in it, then so be it. There's no such thing as right or wrong, and if it serves HIM, well then it's all good as far as he's concerned. (you too, I gather) Am I following correctly here? IP: Logged |
AquaVenus
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posted January 22, 2004 03:44 PM
Greetings,lioneye68.I'll have you know that the world we live in is not by my own design.I'm just trying to be as objective as possible.Personally,I've never done any harm with IOM(Image-Ordain-Manifest)and don't imagine I'd ever have cause to. As for the question of what is or is not "ok",I'm good and through with trying to ascertain that.It seems to be highly dependent on too many subjective factors.IP: Logged |
lioneye68
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posted January 22, 2004 04:07 PM
In many cases, yes...it's not black and white, but rather varying shades of grey. Is it ok to kill another? Depends why. Is it ok to steal? Depends why. Yes, it's a slippery slope, morality is. All one can do is try to make the right decision at every juncture along the way, and hope that the world has been a better place for having them in it. IP: Logged |
trillian
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posted January 22, 2004 07:48 PM
It's trilliAn, not trillion.
And I wasn't out to impress. I love collecting hats, hang one on me anytime!  AV, everyone is here because Linda Goodman is a common denominator, at some time we were/are fans of her work. But moral philosophies and ethics are as diverse as all the wonderful entities here. We are not inane, nor are our opinions. We are intelligent creative people with our own perspectives, culled from our various experiences. We are unique, not because we are here, but because that's what each person is. All the people here strive to be better at who they are, in their own ways. If we do so with Linda's philosophies, who are you to so condescendingly judge? In the Yin and Yang of life, there is light in the darkness, and darkness in the light. I agree lioneye, in this life, there are no absolutes. Peace, Love & Instant Karma.
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AquaVenus
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posted January 23, 2004 02:38 PM
Hello,Knowflakes.I have something of a confession to make.On this topic as well as the one I posted on the Oranges and Hyacinths forum,I've been playing devil's advocate quite a bit. I don't really believe that the prevalence of the knowledge in Star Signs would do any harm as it would eliminate most if not all cause of misery on earth. I was just in a perverse mood, I guess. Also,I've been reading a lot of very nasty German philosophy. Well. Just wanted to leave everybody with a good vibe.IP: Logged |
pidaua
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From: Schweinfurt to Grafenwoehr all within 6 months LOL
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posted January 23, 2004 02:49 PM
Maybe AquaVenus, there are those of us that find you inane and therefore would share our gifts with everyone...everyone but you that is. LOL
Following Linda's moral philosophy. Hmmm, I don't even know what her take on morals are, but I follow my own moral code. I think that you will find a large number of independent, intellectual and moral people on this site. People that have some to their own conclusions about life and how to live, without "just following the crowd...or anyone's moral philosophy".
Sounds like you may have had more than a few bitter experiences. Care to share? LOL...I didn't think so. Feeling perverse...because of German philosophy, Hmm, I wonder which one. Have a good one. ~Pidaua IP: Logged |
trillian
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posted January 23, 2004 02:50 PM
Devil's Advocate is one of my very favorite hats. IP: Logged |
AquaVenus
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posted January 23, 2004 03:05 PM
Hi,pidaua-Just for kicks,because I'm nuts for philosophy-which one do you think I've been reading?IP: Logged |
pidaua
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posted January 23, 2004 03:12 PM
Nietzsche: At least to me, he had to have been one of the most unhappy beings in all of the world. His life was tragic, shrouded by death, then he contracts syphillus during - what should be - the most free years and subsquently his life is plagued with unrequitted love. To the point that he attacks his former best friend, because he is so in love and covets the best friends woman. Another, more awful time, would have been his love for a jewish woman, whom he had proposed to, but she always rejected him....how sad, not to mention his sister was an anti-semite.I would choose him as being somewhat nasty in his writings. IP: Logged |
AquaVenus
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posted January 23, 2004 03:29 PM
Way to go,pidaua!That's great that you're up on philosiphy.however,I still think that Nietzsche had some fascinating ideas.When I first began reading him,he took my breath away.IP: Logged |
pidaua
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posted January 23, 2004 03:41 PM
That is probably how I felt when I first read works by Antonie van Leeuwenhoek. He is my scientific idol. Him and Edmund Locard. In any case, I admire philosophers, but there seems to be a direct contradiction between science and philosophy. In that I mean, for some reason many philosophers discount science, but instead rely on deduction through the senses versus through data. Go figure, but I enjoy all kinds of disciplines from my love of all that is biology / chemisty to religion, shamanism, philosophy, astrology and so on. Then again, I am a Sag, so the world is my textbook. IP: Logged |
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