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double trouble gemini
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posted October 08, 2007 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for double trouble gemini     Edit/Delete Message
feeling really low...looks like i caught the bluezzzzzz
why am i feeling so worthless..like i havent achieved anything in life, like my life is so meaningless and i am just getting older without having done anything..just so meaningless , no purpose of my life
every morning i wake up with this really gloomy feeling...i spend the whole day in bed ..i just dont want to face the world anymore ...everything is going too fast.. like times passing too fast, opportunities are coming and going too fast, my parents have become so old, so weak and dont keep well anymore...i dont like seeing them like this. when i look at myself i feel so ugly and useless. my days ,months,years all are in fastforward mode, i dont like this life anymore, i have left work and my studies for 1 whole year now..i just dont feel the motivation to do any of those..i feel like going somewhere out of this world and not comming back...whats wrong with me??..

what do you do to make yourself feel better when you feel this way?....is it normal?

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double trouble gemini
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posted October 08, 2007 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for double trouble gemini     Edit/Delete Message
o and im 26..it feels kind of on the middle of not too old and not young anymore

(i hope this has something to do with the planets.... so i can be back to normal)

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AcousticGod
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From: Pleasanton, CA, USA
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posted October 08, 2007 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Maybe you need The Cure?

Doing the Unstuck

it's a perfect day for letting go
for setting fire to bridges
boats
and other dreary worlds you know
let's get happy!
it's a perfect day for making out
to wake up with a smile
without a doubt
to burst grin giggle bliss skip jump sing and shout
let's get happy!

"but it's much too late" you say
"for doing this now
we should have done it then"
well it just goes to show
how wrong you can be
and how you really should know
that it's never too late
to get up and go...

it's a perfect day for kiss and swell
for rip-zipping button-popping kiss and well...
there's loads of other stuff can make you yell
let's get happy!
it's a perfect day for doing the unstuck
for dancing like you can't hear the beat
and you don't give a further thought
to things like feet
let's get happy!

"but it's much too late" you say
"for doing this now
we should have done it then"
well it just goes to show
how wrong you can be
and how you really should know
that it's never too late
to get up and go...

kick out the gloom
kick out the blues
tear out the pages with all the bad news
pull down the mirrors and pull down the walls
tear up the stairs and tear up the floors
oh just burn down the house!
burn down the street!
turn everything red and the beat is complete
with the sound of your world
going up in the fire
it's a perfect day to throw back your head
and kiss it all goodbye!

it's a perfect day for getting wild
forgetting all your worries
life
and everything that makes you cry
let's get happy!
it's a perfect day for dreams come true
for thinking big
and doing anything you want to do
let's get happy!

"but it's much too late" you say
"for doing this now
we should have done it then"
well it just goes to show
how wrong you can be
and how you really should know
that it's never too late
to get up and go...

kick out the gloom
kick out the blues
tear out the pages with all the bad news
pull down the mirrors and pull down the walls
tear up the stairs and tear up the floors
oh just burn down the house!
burn down the street!
turn everything red and the dream is complete
with the sound of your world
going up in the fire
it's a perfect day to throw back your head
and kiss it all goodbye!

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AcousticGod
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posted October 08, 2007 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
You will get back to normal. Life is a roller coaster, and just as sure as there are downturns there are also upturns. Nothing is permanent.

You are worthy of love and happiness.

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BlueRoamer
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posted October 08, 2007 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message
Try drinking green tea when you first wake up.

Make sure you get enough sunlight. Take walks during the daytime.

Are you exercising? If not, start doing aerobic exercise a few times a week.

What's your diet like? Try changing you rdiet to more raw foods, lots of vegetables and fruits.

SLeep schedule? If you're sleeping too much try cutting your sleep.

Caffeine is an anti depressant. So is St. Johns Wort.

Are you drinking/using any drugs at all? not just illicit?

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Unmoved
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posted October 08, 2007 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
double trouble gemini

Normal? I don't know. Natural, yes.

Well, I could tell you thngs I do to get out of my gloomies, but it might not work because each cure should be tailor made for the person.

Now, you are low in energy, that's why you have lost your confidence. What energises you, as in, what makes you feel good?

You may not be inspired to do anything, so take it a little at a time.

I don't know enough to suggest anything, but try laughing. Lirerally. Start laughing now. You don't feel like it, I know, but just do it. it may feel weird, but just do it. The more you do it, the sillier it will seem, and you will find a moment where the laugh will be sincere and real.

I know it's silly, but you need to get a little silly to get out of the blues.

Then cry. Why? Because you can.

So, it could be imbalanced energies or lack of energy.

Good Luck.

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ListensToTrees
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posted October 08, 2007 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
I feel that the true source of our pain is separation from "God".

Try not to let these "dark thoughts" bring you down. They say that the darkest hour is before the dawn.

The way we perceive ourselves, the world around us and such....all depends on "the eye of the beholder". Will we focus on and accentuate the positive, or the negative? Is the cup half full, or half empty?

*Also, try sunlight. I personally tend to suffer from "winter blues". Get as much natural daylight as possible. If I had the money, I would like to buy one of those daylight simulation lamps. Someone I know said sunbeds actually help her blues......

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It would be nice to evolve some sort of telepathy of the heart; empathy. A feeling, knowing inside how we are all interconnected. Empathy/ love would be a a law in itself.

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Swerve
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posted October 08, 2007 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swerve     Edit/Delete Message
There's a great book called "How to lift depression...fast"

Believe me after you read that book, all will become clear and you will actually think your way out of it.

The key to undertanding depression is that it is NOT part of us, it is something that simply "lifts" once you get the right perspective on it and the thinking patterns that bring it on and keep you there.

This book was a God-send for me at a difficult time.

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Lialei
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posted October 08, 2007 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lialei     Edit/Delete Message
It is 'normal'. As much
as joy is.

What makes you happy?
What inspires you?
Think back on your life and remember little joys you felt. Remember them and you will remember your Self.
Then you can start to do the little things you love just for you, a day at a time, and it all falls into place.
Most of all, be gentle with yourself.
The world is harsh enough at times, without being harsher on yourself.

So much excellent advice here, I feel like I'm being redundant.

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yourfriendinspirit
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posted October 09, 2007 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yourfriendinspirit     Edit/Delete Message
Stephanie was kind enough to share this with me, and now I pass it to you...
Click Here

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Now besides this link something that generally improves the mood for me:
1] Holding a baby
2] Playing with an animal
3] Going to a New and used Book Store
4] Listening to music of my youth
5] Recognizingly clearly that others are far worse off and in need of your support.
*Go and help out/vollunteer at a homeless shelter, food bank, soup kitchen, abused childrens center, etc.
GIVE YOUR LIFE SOME PURPOSE!
-Become indispensable at any of the places above or to a neighborhood child, friend, family member, etc.
6] Play in the rain [dance, sing, laugh]
7] Be a complete dork, laugh at yourself!
8] Spinkle your environment with uplifting essential oils [lavender, vanilla, jasmine, etc]
9] Learn a new art/practice [feng shui, water color painting, ect.] Share your new found knowledge to another with excitement!
10] Take out your camera and do a day trip with no other focus other than to collect unique pictures at any cost. Develope these or upload them as the case may be and share your discoveries, however trivial.


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Sendin' love your way,
"your friend in spirit"

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cancerrg
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posted October 09, 2007 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cancerrg     Edit/Delete Message
the best and the simplest way is keep visiting LL day in - day out , keep talking and believe me it will help !

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double trouble gemini
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posted October 09, 2007 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for double trouble gemini     Edit/Delete Message
thanks for all these lovely messages AcousticGod,BlueRoamer,Unmoved,ListensToTrees,Swerve,Lialei,yourfriendinspirit,cancerrg

i know i cant get out of depression until i serious do something about it.
i have taken a note of all these helpful tips, i already do most of them (otherwise i would have been dead by now..)

swerve: i checked out the review of that book and thats what i am going to get next... i remember u were depressed at one time and if this book has helped you and hundreds of others then i really need to get it..(hope it helps)

unmoved: i am miles away from a smile..i know laughter is the best cure but even if i try i just start crying .. its so painful inside when you feel hurt, lonely and depressed.. i wish i could Zap this feeling away...

blueroamer: drinking normal tea does help in lift my mood but just for awhile... tea is the only thing i have found to change my mood and make me feel so refreshed.
i joined aerobics, i used to do 1hr aerobics and 1hr on the threadmill every single day ...but when i got back home i was loooow again.. then i started losing interest and didnt feel the drive to workout anymore..
i read about St. Johns Wort and i will try it , thanks.
ListensToTrees: i did think at one time that my depression is linked to lack of faith..but deep down i am religious and always remember God , sometime back i started devoting all my time in prayers and charity work thinking that it would improve everything around me and make me feel better but i dont know why i still felt alone,pretty much sad and empty inside... i guess i need a one on one relationship.
yourfriendinspirit: i am just checking the link right now,thanks.
cancerrg: yea LL helps as it did when i first joined i hope u remember,.. i was pretty messed up then as well and people here really really helped me... thanks to God and people at LL i have never felt 'that' messed up ever again...


thanks for being here when i need you people

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Dervish
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posted October 09, 2007 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dervish     Edit/Delete Message
Why can't just living be a purpose?

As for is your angst normal, I'd say yes. Many have described it, and some of them have overcome it by a variety of methods. If you feel you must have a purpose, then you can use this period in your life to overcome the "Abyss" or "dark night of the soul" you are going through to be spiritually transformed. Plenty do that, whether they use an occult system or something like Buddhism.

I don't normally have these feelings, though I do experience moments where I want to just drop off the grid completely and possibly even lead a hermetic existence.

I also experience rare periods of time where I'm morbid, getting upset as I imagine everyone I love dying, and with having a baby, and oddly a powerful urge for chocolate and strawberries (so I'm sure this is something physical). Luckily, that's very rare.

But overall...when upset, depressed, and such, I find physical activity good. It burns up adrenaline which keeps it from becoming toxic in the system. It also produces endorphins (something many drugs, including psyche meds, also do in their own respective ways, but this has less negative side effects, plus it can help you feel better about yourself physically). Even walking is a good tension reliever for many people. But being depressed and such, I'd suggest joining something like a square dancing group. That's physical and helps you mix with people without those people becoming too demanding on you.

Beyond that, here's something I saved on December 18, 2005:

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I had gotten off the comp this morn when a friend that I had just emailed a few minutes before called (since she knew I was up). She wanted us to go surfing with them. Having just gotten over a flu, I was thinking of saying no, but my roomie really wanted to go, so I agreed.

I am so glad for that.

We surfed as normal and the lingering depression and such from fighting off the flu was banished and I really enjoyed myself and the company. The morn was cloudy, but it was still beautiful, with fog in the distant hills, and the ocean itself vanishing off into the distant mists. There was rain, but it was very light--I'm not even sure it counts as rain. And hardly matters when you're in a wetsuit anyway.

And then the wind picked up. Friends had a wonderful idea, to try windsurfing. This was interesting, and I wasn't sure about it, having never done it before. When I finally tried, it took me some minutes just to not fall over, though they said I picked it up really fast. It was difficult because I had to hold my feet differently, and dealing with the harness. But at some point, WHOOSH, the SPEED! I couldn't help it: I screamed with joy, and I was SO glad we had come.

And then the sun broke through.... not direct, but close. The water turned from gray to aqua, and I was suddenly recalling when I was like 6-10, how I'd get up before Mom & Dad (and often before dawn back then) and go outside and explore, play, go to friend's houses.... I felt so free and there was a stark beauty to life that I rarely feel (at least sober) since I guess I became a teen. And then I surpassed even that, and I reached a state that was nothing less than ecstasy, I'd say on par (though distinct and different in its own way) to mind altering dancing or sex, and perhaps even more fulfilling in its own way.

If there was any doubt about fighting to survive the dark times in my life, it was dispelled at this moment of utter beauty in which I lived totally within this miraculous moment, my shout and my heart praising the Goddess of Life and for this moment in Life, one that was worth every horror and ache I had endured just to be here. Tears came down my face (just a few), and I knew that when I die, should my life flash before my eyes, this exact moment will be replayed, and if it affects my body at all, I will smile then, at peace, knowing it was all worth it in part to this one ineffable moment.

What else is there to say? My cold seemed to come back but it went away again, and it was hardly even noted (at least not by me--and we were all wet enough anyway). I found out that the wind was LIGHT (like how fast would I have gone in a HIGH wind???) Because we messed with the boards (including the beginner board I had borrowed), we failed to miss the churches getting out and ended up eating at a Pizza Hut for awhile to give the traffic a chance to die down more.

Now I am home. I've showered, dishes are now washing, warms are washing and hots are drying. Today was awesome, and I'm sharing. If you get a chance to try something new like that, and to be out in nature in a way that helps you to fuse with it, if just for a moment, then avail yourself of the moment. If more people did, psychiatry would be an endangered profession.

As the Wiccans say, Blessed Be (it seems appropriate to now).

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Anyway, I wish you the best. :-)

ETA: Plus a link of my own,
http://www.e-sheep.com/rave/

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double trouble gemini
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posted October 09, 2007 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for double trouble gemini     Edit/Delete Message
wow Dervish, that was very beautiful, i wish to experience things like that too thanks for sharing that beautiful moment with me, i am trying hard to get out of this phase but i know im not trying my best... i know i need time and good company to get things back on track..

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Happy Dragon
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posted October 09, 2007 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy Dragon     Edit/Delete Message
~ double trouble gemini ~
re:
*** o and im 26..it feels kind of on the middle of not too old and not young anymore
(i hope this has something to do with the planets.... so i can be back to normal) ***

has it been going on for a while .. months ? .. or just recently ..
maybe post your birth data or chart .. was it june '81 ?
( be a few transiting planets currently effecting the gemini sector )

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double trouble gemini
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posted October 09, 2007 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for double trouble gemini     Edit/Delete Message
hi happy D its been going on for a long time.... please tell me its not me..just balme it on the planets (i would feel much better) i dont want to visit a therapist, i just dont like the idea of shelling out my feelings infront of a complete stranger..internet is fine.

please tell me what u think.. also was i born to suffer from depression like this?

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Happy Dragon
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posted October 09, 2007 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy Dragon     Edit/Delete Message
~ double trouble gemini ~

i've a hunch it's a neptune transit ..
i.e. from your header post description .. and maybe natal chiron related ..

.. shall take a closer look ..
.. back here later ..

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Happy Dragon
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posted October 09, 2007 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy Dragon     Edit/Delete Message
~ double trouble gemini ~

from an astrology view i think these two transits be at the root cause ..

in essence .. since begining 2006 ..
Neptune has been squaring your natal Chiron .. and natal Lillith ..
( those two natal placements being opposite each other )

Pluto has beeen transiting opposite your natal Sun ..
( more or less for the same time period .. )
at the moment it's closely opposite your sun ..
( feelings are often multi-intensified when pluto aspects a personal planet by transit )
but pluto's moving fast and will be out of 'aspect orb' faster than transiting neptune ..

after january .. neptune will move out from that aspect to your natal chiron as well ..
so feelings of depression should also lessen ..
( your chiron placement has a connection with self-worth .. as does your sun .. )

neither neptune nor pluto can make those aspects again .. i.e. within a normal lifespan ..
~ http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/jkbx/audiofls.html ~

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double trouble gemini
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posted October 09, 2007 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for double trouble gemini     Edit/Delete Message
Happy D thank you so very much for working on my chart i really really appreciate this
i hope neptune and pluto leave me alone soon enough...!
makes me feel happier to know its the planets playing tricks on me

"neither neptune nor pluto can make those aspects again "
does that mean i will never feel this low again?...i hope so.

again thank you Happy D
(i hav a small observation and curious to know , its not important but if u know the answer to why is my natal chart completely on the left side... i mean i have seen everyones balanced or a wee bit more on a particular side ..but mine is completely on the left and nothing on the right... is there a reason for this?)


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